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NSA Data Mining Much Larger Than Reported
silassewell writes to tell us The New York Times is reporting that the "volume of information harvested from telecommunication data and voice networks, without court-approved warrants, is much larger than the White House has acknowledged." The NSA gained the cooperation of many American telecommunication companies after 9/11 to access streams of communication, both domestic and international, as a part of a presidentially approved program to hunt for evidence of terrorist activity.
Me. I think Bush is not only good for our country, but the best President in my lifetime. I am proud to have voted for him and would do so again if I could. The louder the Left squeals, the better I like it.
-ccm
Too much Law; not enough Order.
well... are you really trying to hide something from the government? i mean, i have a healthy paranoia but it's not of the federal government, it of corperations and scam artists. seriously, what do you have to hide?
Anons need not reply. Questions end with a question mark.
Based on that, it could be more reasonable to point out that since World War II, large-scale foreign attacks on US soil were always foiled...until the GW Bush administration.
Yeah, let's ignore the FIRST attack on the WTC... after all, clinton was a leftist, you're a leftist, so... you kinda have to forgive him?
Your idea of an inlcusive society is on in which everyone agrees with your Marxist claptrap. If your disgust with the United States is so great, then go in front of a consular official, renounce your US citizenship, and get the hell out of the country. You know why you won't? Because you don't have any BALLS. No other country in the world tolerates the infantilism of its citizens the way the US does; you want proof - just read this miserable board every day. The only reason you have the freedom to remain an adolescent throughout your entire life is because better men and woman than you have picked up a weapon and kept the enemy away from your door.
And for the rest of you: IMPEACHMENT? Just try it. Please. Pretty please. I get down on my hands and knees every day and beg the baby Jesus that you try it. Remember there are more people that will support the Republic against your sedition and treason than in this deranged echo chamber.
Tell you what you can do to thank me. Please designate me as your foe, so we can eagerly ignore each other henceforth.
Freedom = (Meaningful - Coerced) Choice != (Speech | Beer^2), and sad sock puppets' bad mods avail them naught.
He has a lot of influence sure, but the gears of our bureaucracies can't be stopped or slowed by just one man in most cases.
What are you talking about? This happened because the NSA is under the Executive branch and because Bush signed an executive order directing the NSA to do so.
The original idea of the 3 branches of government was a good one for its time, but it is much less applicable in our era.
I don't think you could find a BETTER modern example of why we need three branches of government. This kind of executive abuse is exactly why we have courts to strike down his shenanigans and Congress to impeach him.
That Bush failed to win the popular vote in 2000 means he stole the election.
No. It has to do with the fact that more people voted for Gore in Florida as well as the country as a whole. If there had been a complete statewide recount, we'd have a differenet president today.
Sorry that you're mentally ill. : (
Says you.
There are a couple of nice timelines (no I don't feel like looking for them) that shows the Administration does this as standard operating proceedure. Bad news is released late on Friday, so it has the weekend to cool down. Or they try and cover up bad news with other news, like the nominations of Supreme Court justices.
It's not just the left that's pissed off at this you twit. Many in Bush's own party are outraged over this.
Pissed off enough to do anything about it? Or only enough to hem and haw on Monday the 26th, disavow his actions, and go back to being loyal cheerleaders on tuesday?
Sorry I don't filter on that basis. Opinions I disagree with especially those I violently disagree with are the most important ones for me to consider. As I said if anything I would moderate you as a friend but theres not enough in just blind knee jerk reactions warrant that.
Its a real shame that the constitutional scholars here couldnt think their way through to the real issues. There were valid and interesting matters raised by the NSA's data mining. If the nsa can do this in bulk who can do this more selectively? Just how much privacy is really possible in an information based economy ? What happens when this becomes a do it at home project ? Or what happens when you can do van eyck freaking at work with a device disguised as a watch ?
The above are interesting. We hate the president so what he has done must violate the constitution and he should be impeached for it, isnt interesting, its just sad.
I disagree with you because you've already proven you're an idiot. (That's all of your tripe I saw.) Being open-minded is not the same thing as suffering fools gladly, and you are a fool. Economy-sized bought-in-Walmart fool. Where's the red dot? That is your purpose in life and your destiny.
Freedom = (Meaningful - Coerced) Choice != (Speech | Beer^2), and sad sock puppets' bad mods avail them naught.