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Happy 300th Birthday Benjamin Franklin

Guinnessy writes "Benjamin Franklin was born on 17 January 1706 in Boston, Massachusetts. Franklin was a man of diverse talents: publisher, inventor, ambassador, politician, wit with some human frailities says NPR. In Physics Today, Philip Krider presents Franklin's work on electricity and the development of the lightning rod, work whose fame helped Franklin obtain aid from the French against the British. In the same magazine, Joost Mertens considers Franklin's explorations of the calming effects of oil on water. Those investigations, it turns out, had a less than calming effect on Dutch scholars. Philadelphia is planning a series of events celebratng Franklin's life throughtout the year."

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  1. get your wallets out... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    and kiss your $100 bills!

    -Sj53

    1. Re:get your wallets out... by danwesnor · · Score: 4, Interesting

      FYI - Benjamin Franklin is responsible for hundreds of inventions, yet refused to file a patent for any of them. In fact, he published them openly, often with explanations of how they worked, so that others could copy and use them without paying him roylties.

    2. Re:get your wallets out... by Enzo+the+Baker · · Score: 2, Funny
      and kiss your $100 bills!

      I don't have all day!

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    3. Re:get your wallets out... by tobiathan · · Score: 2, Interesting

      for some curious information on the venerable Ben Franklin, www.fishandvisitors.com

  2. Benjamin Franklin, the truest of American Heroes by Jim+in+Buffalo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Without Benjamin Franklin's entreaties to the French for aid in the American Revolutionary War, the Continental Army would certainly have suffered defeat at the hands of the British. For a man to tirelessly crusade for his country like Franklin did at his age and in a time when travel was no simple matter is astounding. Anyone with a quarter of that man's patriotism, devotion, and tenacity could move mountains.

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  3. Wish you were here by digitaldc · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Ben Franklin, oh how we need people like him today.

    Some great quotes from Poor Richard's Almanack:

    • Drive thy Business, or it will drive thee.
      He that falls in love with himself will have no rivals.
      Setting too good an example is a kind of slander seldom forgiven.
      Experience keeps a dear school, yet fools will learn in no other.
      Write with the learned, pronounce with the vulgar.
      Necessity never made a good bargain.
      Three may keep a secret, if two of them are dead.
      Dost thou love life? Then do not squander time; for that's the stuff life is made of.
      If your Riches are yours, why don't you take them with you to t'other World?
      A good conscience is a continual Christmas.
      God heals, and the doctor takes the fee.
      Early to bed and early to rise, makes a man healthy, wealthy, and wise.
      Laws too gentle are seldom obeyed; too severe, seldom executed.
      If you'd know the value of money, go and borrow some.
      When befriended, remember it. When you befriend, forget it.
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    He who knows best knows how little he knows. - Thomas Jefferson
    1. Re:Wish you were here by corbettw · · Score: 5, Interesting

      More great Franklin quotes (not all from Poor Richard's):

      Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.
      Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.
      A countryman between two lawyers is like a fish between two cats.
      A life of leisure and a life of laziness are two things. There will be sleeping enough in the grave.
      A place for everything, everything in its place.
      A penny saved is a penny earned.
      At twenty years of age the will reigns; at thirty, the wit; and at forty, the judgment.
      Be civil to all; sociable to many; familiar with few; friend to one; enemy to none.
      Keep your eyes wide open before marriage, half shut afterwards.

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      God invented whiskey so the Irish would not rule the world.
  4. Ben Franklin's Virtue Number 12, revised by Dystopian+Rebel · · Score: 4, Funny
    "Rarely use venery but for health or offspring, never to dullness, weakness, or the injury of your own or another's peace or reputation."


    And certainly NEVER do it in front of a Web cam.
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  5. It's not really his 300th birthday by nurhussein · · Score: 4, Funny

    After all I don't see the little Google doodle commemorating it, therefore it never happened.

    - A Message From The President Of Google Groupies

    1. Re:It's not really his 300th birthday by polaughlin · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yeah, but there are localized versions of Google. If they're outside of the United States they should be using their localized version (ie. google.co.uk, google.jp, etc.) which shouldn't show logos that commemorate US events/holidays.

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  6. Re:Benjamin Franklin, the truest of American Heroe by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Anyone with a quarter of that man's patriotism, devotion, and tenacity could move mountains.

    And the thought that in modern times he'd be locked up under the PATRIOT act is truly sad...

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  7. I'll drink to that ! by curtisk · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I wonder how many brilliant ideas came about after a relaxing romp at the ol' Hellfire Club?

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  8. Wait, we have a birthday post for Franklin by antifoidulus · · Score: 2, Informative

    but not for The Burninator? The injustice!

  9. Refused Patent by blamanj · · Score: 2, Informative

    Also of note for those who follow intellectual property issues, when he invented the "Franklin stove," he refused the offered patent preferring that the design be available to anyone.

    1. Re:Refused Patent by Roblimo · · Score: 2, Informative

      This is correct. Franklin refused patents on *all* of his many inventions so that they would be available to everyone -- and so that others might improve upon them.

      - Robin

    2. Re:Refused Patent by rbrewer123 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I agree with this according to the research I've done. The counterpoint to this is that having become well-to-do in the publishing business, he could afford to give his inventions away for free.

  10. A Ben-Related Search Engine by shepmaster · · Score: 2, Informative

    Saw this in a few press-releases, and it seems to work pretty well.

    http://ben.clusty.com/

    Has a neat timeline of his accomplishments and has resources for teachers and students.

  11. Such a great guy! by mrchaotica · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A scientist, an advocate of separation of church and state, an opponent of "intellectual property" (he never patented any of his inventions), and a true patriot to boot!

    (I still can't believe he didn't win that "greatest American" contest the History Channel ran a while back...)

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  12. Re:Benjamin Franklin, the truest of American Heroe by meringuoid · · Score: 5, Insightful
    And the thought that in modern times he'd be locked up under the PATRIOT act is truly sad...

    Flamebait? No. It's the truth.

    He first agitated for, and then actively participated in, the armed overthrow of the government, using an army of unlawful combatants backed by a rouge state.

    Franklin, along with all the great founders of the United States of America, was undoubtedly guilty of high treason. Of course, as Shakespeare observed, if it prospers none dare call it treason; so Franklin's a hero. Certainly had things gone a little differently there would today be celebrations in the honour of the brave patriot Benedict Arnold.

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  13. Coffin size? by mobby_6kl · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Happy birthday, but... I just hope the coffin is large enough to let him comfortably spin in it, as I'm sure that's what he does if he has any idea of what's going on in the US government now.

  14. Interesting quote. by JaxWeb · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I think Benjamin Franklin was very good, and I am glad to see him remembered.

    Something I got from the website www.politicalcompass.org/:

    Q:
    Which founding father said of the proposed American Constitution This is likely to be administered for a course of years and then end in despotism ... when the people shall become so corrupted as to need despotic government, being incapable of any other ?

    A:
    Benjamin Franklin in a speech to delegates to the US Constitutional Convention prior to the final vote.

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    1. Re:Interesting quote. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      When a woman asked Franklin, "What king of government have you given us", after the Constitutional convention, he replied, "A Republic if you can keep it"

  15. Franklin on Older Women by SeanDuggan · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Franklin was also a bit the ladies man. For instance, his treatise on the advantages of older women vs younger women. I particularly like his dismissal of the lesser attractiveness...
    5. Because in every Animal that walks upright, the Deficiency of the Fluids that fill the Muscles appears first in the highest Part. The Face first grows lank and Wrinkled; then the Neck; then the Breast and Arms; the lower parts continuing to the last as plump as ever; so that covering all above with a Basket, and regarding only what is below the Girdle, it is impossible of two Women to know an old one from a young one. And as in the Dark all Cats are grey, the Pleasure of Corporal Enjoyment with an old Woman is at least equal and frequently superior; every Knack being by Practice capable by improvement.
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    1. Re:Franklin on Older Women by timothy · · Score: 2, Funny

      Aw, he was just sayin' that because he was such a gentleman.

      And cleverly said, too -- "Why Elizabeth, you are every bit as attractive as a much younger woman, just as soon as I put this giant basket over the top half of your body and extinguish all the lights ..."

      timothy

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  16. Re:Benjamin Franklin, the truest of American Heroe by The-Bus · · Score: 4, Funny

    Thankfully, his legacy now lives on with today's youth; they are reminded of the man through music videos featuring performers waving green bank notes bearing his lithograph and referencing his name. Yes, indeed, it is all about the Benjamin.

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    Small potatoes make the steak look bigger.

  17. Information didn't want to be free then, either by ScentCone · · Score: 2, Informative

    Also of note for those who follow intellectual property issues, when he invented the "Franklin stove," he refused the offered patent preferring that the design be available to anyone.

    Lest anyone suddenly get the idea that Ben Franklin was an early "information wants to be free" sort of guy, don't forget that the only way he was able, in his early forties, to "retire" from the daily grind and turn his attention towards science, diplomacy, and nation-building was because he made himself relatively wealthy as a publisher. He set up printing franchises that made money off of publishing private works, and he took a share of the proceeds in his capacity as the guy helping to finance the operations and marketing thereof. He was very "modern" in that sense - a literary agent, a publisher/distributer, an investor in potentially lucrative creative material... intellectual property was exactly how he became wealthy. The "healthy and wise" part was how he lived long enough and well enough to put his proceeds to work for him, rather working for them. But without an early career in the sale of creative works, there would have been no Ben Franklin, Founding Father.

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  18. Re:Benjamin Franklin, the truest of American Heroe by mrchaotica · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Not to mention that he'd be diametrically opposed to everything the current Administration stands for. Between the PATRIOT Act ("those who would give up essential liberty..."), "Faith-based initiatives" and the Kansas school board, and the media industry's stranglehold on copyright and patent law, he must be spinning in his grave!

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    "[Regarding the 'cloud,'] ownership was what made America different than Russia." -- Woz

  19. More NPR Coverage by Lord+Byron+II · · Score: 2, Informative
  20. Re:Benjamin Franklin, the truest of American Heroe by rjfan · · Score: 2, Funny

    "unlawful combatants backed by a rouge state" I always thought those states were more red than rouge in the voting maps.....

  21. Re:Church and State by Mendenhall · · Score: 2, Informative

    There are MUCH older proponents of this separation. In the Augsburg Confession (penned by Melanchthon to reperesent the early views of the nascent Lutheran movement to the princes of Germany and the Roman Catholic Church), the following was stated (rather colorfully!):
    Therefore, since the power of the Church grants eternal things, and is exercised only by the ministry of the Word, it does not interfere with civil government; no more than the art of singing interferes with civil government . For civil government deals with other things than does the Gospel. The civil rulers defend not minds, but bodies and bodily things against manifest injuries, and restrain men with the sword and bodily punishments in order to preserve civil justice and peace.

  22. Re:Benjamin Franklin, the truest of American Heroe by metternich · · Score: 2, Funny

    he must be spinning in his grave!

    Hmm, maybe we could hook up a turbine up to him and generate some electricity. That would be properly honoring Franklin's inventive spirit.

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  23. Are you kidding? He was notorious in France by ianscot · · Score: 2, Informative
    Franklin was involved with a succession of aristocratic French ladies during the revolution. He was getting around.

    The letters back and forth with his various amours aren't explicit, but Ben was no prude, not by a mile, at any point in his life. (You're right that he was, er, active as a young man; he visited "houses of ill repute" in England.)

    For that matter he married in a relatively informal way -- Deborah Reid and he sort of moved in together and presented it as a marriage, and so it was accepted as a common law thing. Not that unusual back then.

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    "Fundamentalism" isn't about divine morality. It's about human authority.
  24. Heft a "Poor Richards" in Celebration by matt_martin · · Score: 2, Informative
    Be sure to get out there and try a "Poor Richard's" ale !

    A number of US brewpubs are serving their own batches of Poor Richard's which was formulated to the researched preferences of Bejamin Franklin

    FWIW: its an "Open Recipe" beer.

    (mmmmmm, beeer)

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  25. Slashdot readers should worship the guy! by frank_adrian314159 · · Score: 4, Funny

    After all, he was a geek who got laid!

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    That is all.
  26. Re:Benjamin Franklin, the truest of American Heroe by east+coast · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Flamebait? No. It's the truth.

    He first agitated for, and then actively participated in, the armed overthrow of the government, using an army of unlawful combatants backed by a rouge state.


    Oh, you mean that treason is part of the Patriot act and not the constitution?

    Let's not be foolish about this. Stop trying to pin this on the Patriot act, it's one of the oldest laws on the books. As for speaking out against the government, it happens everyday. I don't see people being locked away for it.

    What is sad here is that I'll probably get labled as troll when the truth is Franklin would agree with me even if he supported a current day revolution. Instead the parent post got modded as insightful for simply invoking the name of an unpopular law instead of being based on fact.

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  27. Just you remember by 91degrees · · Score: 2, Funny

    If it wasn't for the French, you guys would be speaking British!

  28. Re:Benjamin Franklin, the truest of American Heroe by eclectic4 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Ben

    My favorite quote of his, and quite fitting.

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    "The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance - it is the illusion of knowledge." - Daniel Boorstin
  29. Re:Give Franklin his coin back! by east+coast · · Score: 2, Funny

    The man deserves to be on the half dollar far more than a dead Kennedy

    Jello Biafra is on a coin now? Wow, things are getting pretty liberal.

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  30. Full Quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    From wikiquote

    In these sentiments, Sir, I agree to this Constitution, with all its faults, -- if they are such; because I think a general Government necessary for us, and there is no form of government but what may be a blessing to the people, if well administered; and I believe, farther, that this is likely to be well administered for a course of years, and can only end in despotism, as other forms have done before it, when the people shall become so corrupted as to need despotic government, being incapable of any other.

    Speech to the Constitutional Convention (June 28, 1787)

  31. Our form of government by TonyXL · · Score: 2, Interesting

    When asked what form of government the founding fathers had agreed upon, Franklin replied, "A Republic, if you can keep it".

    Unfortunately, we have not, we have decended into a democracy, which Madison called, "the most vile form of government".

    Do yourself a favor: look into the difference.

  32. Re:Benjamin Franklin, the truest of American Heroe by 2short · · Score: 2, Insightful


    Well, admitedly, people flying hijacked airplanes into buildings is less of a threat to your security than the ones Franklin faced (An army under the control of the current government looking to hang you personally); and I'd argue the threats to his freedom, pre-revolt, were lesser than the threats to ours today. So I'd agree we need a different world view; the Franklin quote is much, much, more relevant today than it was in his time.

    The wiretapping certainly isn't about listening to Bin Laden's telephone calls. The wiretapping is about listening to the telephone calls of American citizens when you are not willing to even try to get a warrant, not even from a secret court that can issue warrants retro-actively, and has refused to issue them a couple times out of the hundreds they've been asked. Do you think a warrant could have been obtained for calls to the Axis leaders? Somehow I think so. The administration clearly does not think they can convince a notably sympathetic Judge (who they picked) that this wiretapping is justifiabale, even if they show him the facts. Instead, the whole country should just take their word for it. That has got to be the most obvious horse-shit I've ever heard.
      By claiming he has the authority top order this wiretapping, the President is claiming that he has the authority to do anything he wants, without telling anyone, even if both Congress and the courts specifically say otherwise. What does this claim amount to other than saying "I am King."?
        Yes, I think Franklin would have objected; I think he would have revolted.

  33. Re:Benjamin Franklin, the truest of American Heroe by CRCulver · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Anyone with a quarter of that man's patriotism...

    How can a man be a patriot if he leads the violent overthrow of the rightful government of his country? The government of the time was accepted by the great majority of people in the British Empire, and by trying to undo law and order in the colonies, Franklin spurned the values of his country. If Franklin was a patriot, then Weather Underground and the SLA were patriots.

  34. He is one of the three men I admire most by jocknerd · · Score: 2, Funny

    Along with Da Vinci, Thomas Jefferson, and Julius Caesar.

  35. He'd be Fighting Mad by cyberscan · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Benjamin Franklin was an absolute genius. Not only was he responsible for the rediscovery of electricity. he was also responsible for many other scientific advances of historic proportions. Not only that, he was also partly responsible for drafting the founding document of one of the greatest nations in history. Unfortunately he would mostly be fighting mad at how his genius has been misused by the main two political parties of today along with their corporate and special interest paymasters. These entities have distorted the intent to help pay for innovation with laws that has brought innovation to a standstill. Both Democrats and Republicans have destroyed the legal protections which the U.S. Constitution provided for the inhabitants of the U.S. In fact, the U.S.A. should be no longer known by that name. It is more appropriate to call it the "Police States of Amerika." With not only free speech stifled by the abuse of copyright and patents, property rights are now virtually unprotect as any major corporation can have a local government force people to give up their own land for a pittance. Things can be changed though. It has to be done by people not doing what they normally do. In order to make any significant change for the better and have laws passed that protect freedom to hack and free software, people will have to register to vote. Not only will have have to register, they will have to register under an ALTERNATIVE political party instead of the republicrats or demicans. There are many parties out there that fit the different agendas of many who are Slashdotters. These parties are listed below in alphabetical order:

    Constitution Party http://www.constitutionparty.org/
    Green Party http://www.greenparty.org/
    Libertarian Party http://www.lp.org/
    Reform Party http://www.reformparty.org/
    Socialist Party http://www.sp-usa.org/
    Veteran's Party http://www.veteransparty.us/

    Some of these parties I disagree with, however, I list them to give voice to diverse ideas. Isn't it time to register and vote for candidates based on their ideas and character instead of by which one will stand a chance of winning in order to keep out the "greater evil?" The corrupt, bullshit and lie spewing Democrats are just as bad as the corrupt bullshit and lie spewing Republicans. There are much better choices. Get behind them and support them while we have a few legal protections left.

  36. Re:Benjamin Franklin, the truest of American Heroe by rob_squared · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Patriotism is a devotion towards one's country, and a country is made of citizens.

    Remember this one thing as long as you can: you have a duty to your fellow man, not to your government. If government is hurting you, you owe them treason.

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  37. Re:Benjamin Franklin, the truest of American Heroe by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 2, Informative
    The world we live in is far different from Franklin's, and it requires a different world view.

    It's sad that people seem to think blowing shit up was invented in 2001. Guy Fawkes and the Gunpowder Plot, anyone?

    The wire tapping isn't about trading liberty for security (how has your freedom been reduced by the government listening to Bin Laden's telephone calls?)

    That's not what they're doing. They're listening to the phone calls of American citizens, without the Constitutionally required warrants.

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