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iTunes Credited with Boosting Primetime Ratings

grandgator writes "TV Week reports on NBC's claims that iTunes downloads are boosting ratings for their primetime shows. Citing one example 'NBC's "The Office" delivered a 5.1-its highest ratings ever-last Thursday among adults 18 to 49, a bump the network credits in large part to the show's popularity as an iPod download. Such a connection between podcast success and broadcast ratings success is particularly significant because the NBC data is among the first available evidence of what network executives have been gambling on when striking their new media deals-that the new video platforms are additive because they provide more entry points into a show for consumers.'"

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  1. iTunes Payola by capt.Hij · · Score: 3, Insightful

    How long will it now take before we start seeing iTunes Payola. Networks eager to get their shows on people's ipods will certainly be tempted to try to strike special deals to make their shows more easily obtainable. They may try to offer Apple cash, try to reduce the cost to consumers, or try to find ways to get their links on the front page. If it happens, can an individual state try to take action against the practice? This may turn out to be another interesting episode of the theatre of greed.

    1. Re:iTunes Payola by heatdeath · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Networks eager to get their shows on people's ipods will certainly be tempted to try to strike special deals to make their shows more easily obtainable

      This makes no sense. People aren't going to browse iTunes looking for good TV shows to watch. They're going to download the shows that they missed. This makes the series more watchable, because missing a single episode doesn't ruin the plot. (It also makes it more portable)

      But, your scenario you described is silly. You fail.

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    2. Re:iTunes Payola by gnasher719 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      '' How long will it now take before we start seeing iTunes Payola. Networks eager to get their shows on people's ipods will certainly be tempted to try to strike special deals to make their shows more easily obtainable. They may try to offer Apple cash, try to reduce the cost to consumers, or try to find ways to get their links on the front page. ''

      It might happen, but it won't be as bad as on radio. On the radio, if they pay, you can hear it, if they don't pay, you can't hear it. On iTunes, what would happen: If they pay, it is advertised big on page 1. If they don't pay, it is still there on page 3 or 4.

  2. Wish I could say I predicted this... by jcr · · Score: 3, Insightful

    But all I can say is that it doesn't surprise me at all.

    When the video is available from iTMS, it's uncoupled from the network schedule. You can send an episode to a friend as a gift. You can buy one show and see whether you want any more, and the critical thing is, you can watch it anytime you want. It's a whole new ball game.

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  3. Re:Paying for TV is for morons by tbone1 · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Who in their right mind would pay for television episode downloads? IRC and Bittorrent has these episodes in glorious XVid format without the bullshit commercials.

    Um, it could be that some people believe in paying for something that isn't theirs, and that they may perceive IRC and Bittorrent to be stealing? I know, these wacky oldsters with their fax machines and hula hoops and libertarian ideas about property rights ...

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  4. If Only... by Placebo+Messiah · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...Fox would have pulled their collective heads out of their universal ass before they cancelled Arrested Development and podcasted it to supplement the ratings.

  5. So basically... by thatoneguy_jm · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ...someone needs to add "Firefly" to iTunes, pronto.

  6. Re:Paying for TV is for morons by meringuoid · · Score: 3, Insightful
    I know, these wacky oldsters with their fax machines and hula hoops and libertarian ideas about property rights ...

    Libertarians support government-enforced monopolies restricting certain forms of speech for corporate profit? Interesting.

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  7. Eyeballs by Stan+Vassilev · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "ITunes is one way to bring fresh eyeballs to the network, he said, in particular the younger demo that uses video iPods."

    Don't you find it especially intimidating TV execs when they refer to people as eyeballs?

  8. When will they get the Daily Show?! by antifoidulus · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I have yet to buy an iPod video yet, and I won't till they get the Daily Show on iTunes. However, I won't pay $1.99 per episode to get it, but I would LOVE for some type of subscription service, ie for somewhere less than $100 per year I could get that show delivered to me automatically on my iPod. It would be awesome for commuters if they could get up in the morning, grab their iPod from it's dock and take the train/bus/whatever and watch the previous nights Daily Show.
    Pipedreams I guess....

  9. Huh? by MadJo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Okay now this makes absolutely no sense at all. Downloading tv-shows from Bittorrent declined the ratings, but downloading from iTunes actually increases ratings?
    How are those two different? (aside from the money factor)

    1. Re:Huh? by wx327 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Could be that iTunes viewers usually watch the live show, but use iTunes to get the ones they missed, but torrent viewers always watch the torrents, so they will never contribute to the live viewing share statistic.

  10. Been on my mind recently. by NXprime · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I keep pinching myself in utter disbelief that the furture has come where a-la-carte programming would be real. Now it is and I can watch my favorite shows anywhere I want. iTunes is a direct download service with no viruses, dead torrent links, tracker downtime, RIAA threats, slow downloads, or any bothersome thing like that. Video quality is so nice on my 17" CRT monitor that it's just like watching a TV rip but better quality since there's no logo's anywhere or scrolling text, or weather updates or any crap like that. I tell ya, I wouldn't have it any other way. Freedom from commericals, folks. It's the read deal and I couldn't be any happier. NBC/ABC has all the good shows anyway like Lost, BSG, Monk, and The Office so we're not missing much from the other loser networks that refuse to join up with iTunes. That free Monk episode and SNL skit was just the icing on the cake.

    As for buying all episodes on iTunes, that would be a mistake. I plan on buying Monk on DVD & ripping it so I can watch it again (some for the first time) on my PC. Too much glare watching it on an iPod but for long road trips life without it would be unbarable. But from time to time, like an SNL skit for example, it can't be beat. /hugs Steve Jobs. =)....

  11. Re:Paying for TV is for morons by BenjyD · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's not that different: if everyone did that, commercial TV would either die or find alternatives, such as product placements, adverts spliced more closely into the shows or going subscription-based. We have another alternative here (UK) of state-funded, advert-free TV.

    That said, it is clearly more wrong to illegaly download copies of shows, when there is a legal alternative which provides the makers of the show with income, than it is to skip the adverts electronically. At present, advertisers know that most people don't watch the adverts very much anyway, which is why they go out of their way to make them grab attention - loud, bright, odd, funny etc.

  12. BBC THE OFFICE - better by TheDoctorWho · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Ricky Gervais is god, thankfully he's getting paid quite well for the bastardized version in the USA.

  13. Watching shows around the water cooler by dim5 · · Score: 3, Insightful
    I love The Office (US version, never seen the UK version). I've been watching it since day 1 and telling everyone I know about it. But here's the thing. Have you ever listened to someone describe a funny TV show? It's awful. Not only is it impossible to reproduce the timing and context of the show that made it funny, but now the person forced to listen to you imitating Homer Simpson must guess as to whether you just can't do a good Homer, or if the writing for the Simpsons really isn't funny.

    PMPs finally make it possible for me to come in the next day and say, "hey, you've got to watch this clip from last night's Office." I would certainly get more people to start watching the show by actually showing them part of the show than by possibly injuring someone with my horrible Dwight impersonation.

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  14. Re:and it's HORRIBLE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful
    Well if it is so horrible why does it have such a high rating.

    Well, Windows is popular...

    Other examples of horrible things that are or have been popular:
    Wrestling
    Soap Operas
    Lotteries
    Married with Children
    George Bush
    TeleTubbies
    Family Circus
    Penny Arcade
    Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

  15. Appointment Viewing is Dead by Marillion · · Score: 2, Insightful
    I remember when viewers basically "made an appointment" with a TV show. The VCR was a novelty that only the Rich could afford. You either watched it on its appointed time or you hoped to catch it on re-runs. Writers couldn't create series with long, intricate story arcs that spanned multiple episodes, because if a viewer missed an episode, they'd be confused. So every week, the problem that threatened the world was neatly tidied up in the last ten minutes.

    Finally, Appointment Viewing is Dead! iTunes and Tivo and PVR's have killed it.

    Part of the reason series like BSG are so good, is because the writers know that the don't have clean up the story in the last ten minutes. In fact the last ten minutes become a good time to "frack-up" everything we've come to know and trust.

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  16. I would, and did by snowwrestler · · Score: 3, Insightful

    We taped The Office last week but the tape ran out halfway through. So the next day I check on iTunes and sure enough, there was the episode. $2 and a few minutes later it was playing on my TV (and it looked great).

    I guess I could have searched for a clean copy of it on IRC or BT, but I value my time pretty highly. To be a better value than $2, I would pretty much have to find it the instant I started looking. That's both a) pretty unlikely and b) exactly what happened on iTunes anyway.

    TV shows on iTunes were definitely worth it for me. I can't say I'll be buying every show--more likely I'll just use it when I miss a show I wanted to see. For the cost of a Coke and candy bar I'll now be able to get it easily.

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  17. My 2 cents on why the Office does so well by 3770 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The success of the Office on iTunes is probably because it can be enjoyed even if you watch only a few minutes at at time. You don't need to sit through the entire show to enjoy it. You can just watch a few minutes.

    And that probably suits the mobile nature of iPod viewing.

    And it might be a good show to buy if you want to show off your new iPod to friends because you can always find a good little short scene that you can show whenever someone is asking about the video capabilities of your new iPod. And this probably matters quite a bit at the moment. Most of the 8 million videos that Steve Jobs claimed were sold are probably bought by people who bought just one episode to check out what it's all about.

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  18. WANTED: ONE DOCTOR WHO PLEASE by $nyper · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'll tell you what I just want some "Doctor Who." I get sick and tired of downloading them from through Bit Torrent. I am an American and I want me some real BBC content and not this watered down BBC America rubbish!!!!

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