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NASA Overjoyed at Catch From Stardust

mknewman wrote to mention a New York Times report that the Stardust project has exceeded NASA scientist's expectations. From the article: "While they had expected mostly microscopic samples, the researchers said, a surprising number of the particles were large enough to be seen with the naked eye ... The cargo in the Stardust's sample container, which was opened Tuesday, 'was an ancient cosmic treasure from the very edge of the solar system,' Dr. Brownlee said. Scientists believe that these particles are the pristine remains of the material that formed the planets and other bodies some 4.6 billion years ago."

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  1. Re:$212 Million??? by SilentOne · · Score: 3, Informative

    FTA: Dr. Brownlee said the $212 million cost of the 10-year Stardust project was a bargain considering the amount of knowledge it should provide about the origins of the solar system and Earth. "The way I like to look at it," he said with a laugh, "it's the same cost as a well-paid baseball player over a 10-year period."

  2. Go Nasa by Ardeocalidus · · Score: 5, Informative
    NASA really struck a cord with this one. Hopefully this success will relaunch (no pun intended) interest in the space program.

    NASA used the newer type of AeroGel to capture the dust particles. For those who don't know, AeroGel is an ultra-low density solid. The NASA AeroGel is an Alumina gel comprised of 99.8% air. The type that NASA used was Nickel-alumina, and they laced it with gadolinium and terbium so that space particles would cause the impact sight to glow under the correct conditions. (Some great photos of the foggy stuft at: http://stardust.jpl.nasa.gov/photo/aerogel.html)

    Apparently, NASA is considering allowing civilians to search for space particulates through the web, scowering over hundreds of thousands of enlarged photographs. Its expected that NASA will announce plans for the program soon.

    Interesting links:
    http://stardust.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/webcam.html - NASA Webcam
    http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/features.cfm?feature= 1019 - Latest NASA News
    http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/stardust/multime dia/jsc2006e00886.html - When The Capsule First Returned
    http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/stardust-multimedia.c fm - Podcasts and Videos

  3. Re:There goes interstellar travel by hunterx11 · · Score: 5, Informative

    It is already known there that are enough stray particles in space that a craft moving at relativistic speeds would need a good deal of shielding against them. Somewhat counterintuitively, deep space has a higher density of particles than inside the solar system, since the pressure of the solar wind actually keeps particles from deep space at bay.

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  4. visible by human eye? by phiber9 · · Score: 5, Informative

    ok. those are the large samples... if you want to help nasa (or nsa) compute the stardust microscope data (or echelon data) you can do that soon on Stardust@Home

  5. Re:$212 Million??? by johncadengo · · Score: 2, Informative

    I would sell NASA dust for $1 Million

    Uncontaminated space dust from the tail of a comet? I think not. Even if you tried you wouldn't even be able to get a hold of that. And that is precisely why it cost Nasa $212 Million. The price is justified.

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  6. Re:Sponsoring by The+Good+Reverend · · Score: 2, Informative

    The Taco Bell promotion was just that, a promotion. It had no sponsorship deal with the Russians or Mir.

  7. Re:why doesn't some of air get sucked out of gel? by peektwice · · Score: 2, Informative

    If I'm reading this correctly, the air doesn't get sucked out of the gel, because the aerogel is a actually the solid silica that is left after drying and extracting the liquid. It is not a closed cell structure, and cannot actually "contain" the air. However, what with me not being a JPL scientist, I could be wrong.

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  8. Re:There goes interstellar travel by Gogo+Dodo · · Score: 3, Informative

    "Space junk" is stuff left over in Earth orbit from stuff we've put up there. Stardust didn't collect "space junk" particles, just cometary particles. The collector was only deployed when it went through the comet's coma. During the trip to the comet and back, the collector was stowed.

  9. Why go to Mars when we can bring it to us? by AngryNick · · Score: 2, Informative
    This mission is just one more example of why I feel manned missions are unnecessary. Thinking of sending people to a comet to catch particles is laughable, yet people clapped when Bush announced his "vision" to return to the Moon and put men are Mars.

    With the success of Stardust, Spirit, Opportunity, and other missions, NASA and JPL are clearly demonstrating that robots are aptly suited for productive space research. Rather than invest in the huge infrastructure required to support our frailty, we should accept that humans are not equipped for interplanetary travel and actively pursue new and imaginative unmanned missions.

    BTW, Great job Stardust team. Congratulations! I can't wait to get my invite to help out!

  10. Re:There goes interstellar travel by MichaelSmith · · Score: 4, Informative
    It is already known there that are enough stray particles in space that a craft moving at relativistic speeds would need a good deal of shielding against them

    True, but this spacecraft was sent close to a comet. This environment, like the rings of saturn, is a well known hazardous environment. Normal deep space, as you would find during a cruise to mars or venus is totally empty by comparison.

  11. Re:why doesn't some of air get sucked out of gel? by DeveloperAdvantage · · Score: 3, Informative

    Thanks for your replies. Here's another link, same description as the above article, but instead of 99.8% air it states 99.8% empty space - I interpreted the "air" too literally (of course, most of an atom is empty space but anyway).

    http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/stardust/spacecr aft/aerogel-index.html

    Awhile back I worked with a researcher who was looking at something similar - Metallic Foams. Cool stuff.

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  12. Re:Aerogel For the rest of us? by MechTard · · Score: 3, Informative

    Aerogel is actually not that useful for very much. It is an excellent thermal insulator, but is very fragile and prone to becoming powder if exposed to repeaded shock. *examines his small aerogel sample* Most of it is powder now, in fact - the worst kind, powdered silica.

  13. Re:quarantine? by bani · · Score: 2, Informative

    compared to the millions of tons of space debris which rains down on the earth all the time? i mean really, what the heck do you think meteor showers are? cometary debris, that's what.

    i think you've been watching too many 1970s michael crichton movies.

  14. Re:Ice Samples? by MichaelSmith · · Score: 3, Informative
    At the temperatures it exists at in deep space it has the hardness of granite

    I don't think it does, unless you go right down to less then 1K where pretty much everything is solid.

    Think about Europa, which is at about 100K, and the ice there is more than 10km thick. There is hardly any elevation on Europa. Certainly nothing like mountains made of rock.

    My expectation about the aerogel capture is that dusty material will be collected undamaged. The particles are expected to be a mixture of volatiles and rock anyway. The path in the aerogel should give investigators the total mass of the particle. Subtract the recovered mass and you have the mass of volatile material.