34 Design Flaws in 20 Days of Intel Core Duo
Pray_4_Mojo writes "Geek.com is reporting that Intel's errata (bug) documentation shows that the Intel Core Duo chip has 34 known issues found in the 20 days since the launch of the iMac Core Duo. (you can read the list) with only plans to fix one of them. While bugs in hardware is nothing new (the P4 has 64 known issues, at this time Intel does not plan to fix a single one) this marks one of the first times that Intel released a processor with known bugs, and some of the bugs are of higher severity than in the past. Also alarming is the rate the flaws have been found, at one and half per day since the launch of the iMac Core Duo."
I just think it means that Intel is being more honest about the problems, rather then hiding them til others find them.
Maybe they're just getting faster/better at finding bugs?
Bradley Holt
You do realize that there is an 85 page PDF of errors in the AMD64, right?
this marks one of the first times that Intel released a processor with known bugs
No: either it is the first time or it is not. There can be only one... first time.
and some of the bugs are of higher severity then in the past
then != than
I want to drag this out as long as possible. Bring me my protractor.
How many "bugs" are in Athlons?/Duron/Semprons?
Jaysyn
There is a war going on for your mind.
It's a little disohnest to use the phrasing "Core Duo chip has 34 known issues found in the 20 days since the launch of the iMac Core Duo."
Most of these bugs were found well before the release of Core Duo. Many of the bugs are listed as having been observed by Intel only. That means the verficiation teams did hit these issues, either with very bizarre code setup, or doing something that's probably not technically legal anyway. Odds of seeing most of it in an end-user platform are very unlikely.
Revision Guide for AMD AthlonTM 64 and AMD OpteronTM Processors. Just for balance. (only two of them are really interesting, #113 is one of them IIRC)
Another thing here that people don't seem to get, is that just because there have been 1.5 'found' a day (I would bet most were known before general release), that says nothing about the total number of bugs. For all we know, there could be only 40 total, just most of them were found quickly.
Huh? That's clearly wrong. When Intel had its famous FDIV bug, they shipped it knowing that the problem was there (the chips were already manufactured before they noticed it in their internal design validation.) In fact I would highly doubt that any Intel chip (or AMD chip) has shipped without some known bugs in them.
Its just a question of severity. Most of these bugs tend to be highly marginal in a "real software doesn't push that hard on the CPU" sense.
Apple is not the only manufacturer using the Core Duo chip.
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Why does Apple want to use an intel chip?
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Oh, thats right:
Microsoft Owns Apple.
How can we tell?
1. Apple's stock only rose 25% last week.
2. Bill Gates's birthday now a paid holiday for Apple employees.
3. Default Mac startup sound changed to "Taps."
4. Wall Street brokers have stopped using Apple stock certificates as toilet paper.
5. Apple's new slogan: "Almost as good as Windows!"
6. Apple has been bent over with its pants dropped for so long now, even a geek like Bill Gates was bound to get lucky.
7. Cute rainbow-colored apple now inhabited by cute rainbow-colored worm.
8. microsoft comes out with an operating system incorporating Mac technology
9. Phone and utilities mysteriously start working again at Apple's corporate HQ.
10. Steve Jobs seen tending bar at the Gates' private lawn party.
11. Diners in Microsoft's staff cafeteria can now enjoy their apple pie purely for its wholesome goodness and no longer as a symbolic act of global domination.
12. Unsold Newtons used as cobblestones in Gates's driveway.
13. Apple Employee of the Month gets to hunt loose change at Bill's house.
14. New Apple employee dress code includes large "Property of B. Gates" tattoo on ass.
15. Bill Gates still burned in effigy, but upper management no longer attends.
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I like #7 and #11 myself
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It's called "errata", and it's common for most processors to be released with pages and pages and pages of errata.
Of course, what happens is that the alpha/beta silicon ships to select customers without many errata (though internal testing often finds them too, and they ship with those). Then the manufacturer goes back, resolves a few, then the cycle repeats until everyone is happy with the bugs and it's released with a book of errata on them, and workarounds for the severe ones.
"No fix" errata are common. The most serious of those have workarounds. Fixed errata are for things where there can be no possible software workaround. But there's a large number of varying severity - from cache incoherences, lock failures (you try to lock something, and it either can't be unlocked the usual way, or it doesn't reliably indicate lock), to bus and spec violations.
Nothing new here...
Now, this would've been interesting or informative if you would have provided a link to that PDF. Pretty please?
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This news would be a lot more interesting if I knew the size of the errata list for the G4 or the G5. I think it unlikely that there are zero unfixed bugs.
Anyone? Bueller?
geeks.com has pumped up these problems by doing their own analysis, and claiming 'show stopper' on many of them, yet there are already machines in the wild that seem to have no problem with many of them. Like them saying that machines wouldn't be able to wake from sleep because of one of them. Their analysis is a lot of FUD.
It's going pretty slow, here's a mirror I setup to the image with list on it: http://www.xmilk.com/coreduo.gif
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The problem with x86 comes from the fact that a large number of instructions interact in relatively complex ways with others. Changing a small amount of silicon can change a side-effect of an instruction, which is then a bug. An ISA such as Alpha eliminated this by keeping inter-instruction interactions to a minimum (no condition registers, etc).
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So not only how many bugs in Athlon, etc, but also...
How many bugs in other Pentium chips?
What was the rate of discovery of bugs in other chips?
Keep in mind that during Intel's entire history they've released one desktop processor that had a bug sufficient to require a recall. Most of the bugs are easily worked around including that one. Hell, I've got an old P60 that I was using as a router until the last year or so and it just worked fine and it was always amusing to see Linux notice the FDIV bug on boot.
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Not sure I understand the point of this new article... all chips have errata. This is like reporting that the sun set again or that slashdotters have no love life.
For eample...
The MPC7410 family of chips (aka G4) from Freescale (formally part of Motorola) has 21 errata currently listed: MPC7410CE.pdf
The MPC7447 family of chips (aka G4) from Freescale has 36 errata currently listed: MPC7457CE.pdf
The PPC 970FX (aka G5) from IBM has 24 errata currently listed: 970fx_errata_dd3.x_v1.6.pdf
The errata for the AMD Opteron is 85 pages long . I once spoke with a chipset designer and he told me that the Opteron errata was especially long with some convoluted workarounds, compared to other CPUs he's worked with.
As an ASIC designer, I have produced my fair share of silicon bugs. Chips are expensive to produce, making bugs expensive to fix. As a result, chip designers (even ones with deep pockets like Intel) do not look at bugs as something to FIX, but rather as something to MASK. I don't mean to hide it from people (although that does happen), but to make it not a bug by working around it.
Unless the bug is so fatal that you can't work around it, or the bug could potentially cost lives, the primary solution is to work around it. Either you write driver code to avoid the bug, or you find some other cheap solution. Sometimes, it's a simple matter of removing a feature from your marketing literature.
Intel's typical means to mask processor bugs is microcode. This hurts performance, but they can typically create a workaround that routes everything around the bug. I can't read the article (it's slashdotted), but I'm sure that by saying they won't fix some bugs, they're saying that they won't respin the silicon but rather mask the bug in some other way.
Listing the bugs (and not fixing them in this version) is an appropriate thing for Intel to do.
(I'm no Intel fanboy. I think they're bastards. But this is NOT an example of them being bastards.)
http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/white _papers_and_tech_docs/25759.pdf
And as an aside, it took two seconds (actually .08) seconds to look up on Google. Maybe try that next time.
How pathetic are you that you follow me from topic to topic and waste all your mod points at once modding me down?
we will miss the AlteVec Velocity Engine and 64-bit full RISC processing, no doubts. Lets hope Intel designs something as useful as AlteVec developers can take advantage of, and gets Apple a 64-bit chip soon.
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Being in the Aerospace/Defense industry, this is disconcerning, especially for those of us that deal with the FAA and the imfamous DO-178B. Higher demanding systems are forcing us to use more powerful processors and if they are plagued with "known issues" it may be a problem with getting through a certification by some governing agency. Especially now that DO-254 has reared its ugly head... Has Intel gone the way of Microsoft? Delivering early to gain market even though the product has sever quality issues and then take the "well, it's not a critical secutriy flaw?".
I didn't bother to actually count the number of unfixed or no fix planned glitches / bugs in there, so I don't know if it actually validates the 80+ the grandparent claimed, but there are quite a few known bugs in A64 and its HTT bus.
In fact there are going to be any CPU released, even stuff like Power / Itanium / USpark are going to have errata like this. Microprocessors are inredibly complex equipment, and 100% stable and glitch free under all possible conditions just isn't going to happen. Who ever submitted this story is blowing this entirely out of proportion. The link is already Slashdotted so I haven't gotten a chance to read what the bugs / glitches are, but I would be good money a normal user could go through the entire life of their Core Dou Mac and never notice one. These are typically very small gliches / bugs that occur under very specific conditions, and are meant more for hardware manufacturers to be aware of than they are to warn a user there could be problems with their chips.
publishing them publicly I think is a good move on Intel's part, but they do run this risk where people don't understand that this is a completely and utterly ordinary and expected thing to happen.
http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/white _papers_and_tech_docs/25759.pdf
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Quoth the image: Show stopper, but only observed by Intel so far. Also, any OS developer who codes like this deserves this one.
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And you think that the A64, and P4 are clean and squaeky?
... for the first time, they're releasing the chip for a stable OS first.
It used to be that testers only had an unstable testbed OS (designed primarily to run the same company's office suite) to use for validatation. Testers were never quite sure before where the blue screens, lockups, funny noises, and billowing smoke actually originated.
(Relax, it's just a joke).
sigs, as if you care.
No, that's what you get when you build something really complicated. The clever bit is that they still work despite the errors.
Bad analogies are like waxing a monkey with a rainbow.
All chips have errata, and custmarily are well documented and are published on the vendor's web site. BTW, errata can be something as simple as a correction to the datasheet. Most are usually minor and are dealt with by the compiler. For example, if there's an error with calculations dealing with a certain registry and decimal values, the compiler would just not use that registry for the calculations.
The documented and known errata are not what you should be concerned with. It's the unknown ones that freeze your computer or cause all robots to attack their masters.
If someone's complaining about this, they should just turn off their computers, because as we ALL know, every operating system (the OS is what runs on chips that have the errata) also are shipped with hundreds, if not thousands, of known bugs. You're not going to find a perfect chip in the real world. How many errata did the G4/G5 have? By comparison the IBM PowerPC 970FX has 24 errata, none of which is planned for a fix. When you consider the 970FX is a fairly mature chip, 34 errata on a new chip is hardly news worthy. As transistors get more and more compact and miniaturized, I'm sure we're bound to see more.
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Show-stopper but only observed by Intel so far. Also, any OS developer who codes like this deserves this one.
Mac Powerbooks and G5s are WIDELY used as THE copmuter for editing film on. The new MacBook does not properly run Final Cut Pro 4, one of the biggest names in editing software. BIG mistake apple, big mistake.
Ummm, because some company is going to run out and buy new machines right away and expect the software to have been ported, even though anyone who follows either the video editing or Apple news knows they announced Final Cut pro would be ported in March? Do people really use imacs for pro video editing? I'd think they would be going with towers, which work fine now and will likely not be intel before march or with powerbooks, which won't ship till Feb, only a month before Final Cut Pro is ported. The only people who might get burned by this are the clueless.
Yeah, I know - there really isn't that much difference between a 1.8Ghz Core Duo and the 1.8Ghz dual-core G5 in the current Powerbooks.
Er. Wait a minute. There's no such G5 in a Powerbook? The best we had a single core 1.5Ghz G4? Oh - well perhaps there is a substantive difference in chips, after all.
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Let's not just moderate comments.
I want to be able to moderate articles for depth, due diligence, and bias.
This one's going to sit at top level for quite some time, trolling in everyone until they read the comments and discover they shouldn't have bothered.
No, he said "something as good as Altivec."
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Hmmmm....
What wast the (newsworthy or not) bug per CPU per release count BEFORE switching to Intel? What happened to all that new-fangled "chip simulation" stuff? Seems if this erratta is not just typos and such, then the SIMulation needs some STIMulation to be more useful.
I wonder if AppTel did a "test design" before the Apple side of the house went to market. As for "finding the bugs faster", I am wondering if Apple found them and told Intel, "fixem or we go back to IBM, even if IBM charges more money to come back-but you can be sure we won't pay YOU over flaws we specced to be avoided...", assuming Apple could foresee and document what to avoid.
As for Intel being "more honest", heck, I am willing to assume Apple has a better branding position than Intel, and Apple is not going to stand for Intel using it's mammoth inventory and factory count to roll over people. Any heavy computer user-- particularly Mac users who make money by USING their computers in small businesses-- will not tolerate Intel chips if things don't turn around.
And, finally, I imagine Jobs will do a war-dance job in Intel if they think ONE bug fix is all that's required or if they think they can get away with fixing only ONE bug. But, if they are firm on fixing only ONE "BUG", then maybe they have refunds, refurbs, exchanges, chip-swaps... and/or a new chip in the pipeline...
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I've heard rumors that some small PC manufacturers, such as Dell and Gateway are selling computers using this cpu.
Just leave it in "BETA" google does a good job at that.
Your comment is misleading. The document lists only 61 errata and contains their respective details. The initial table of errata -- table 5 -- is only four pages long (begins 13 and ends 16) and is most likely to group the problems by the wafer families; the next two pages reiterate the errata for each given brand name of AMD K7/K8 chip; all but one of the remaining pages detail the errata and their suggested workarounds/fixes. The last page is a list of extra resources.
I don't dispute your comment regarding the experience of a chipset designer.
Sir, what are you doing? This is Slashdot, where everybody for some reason has a hard-on for AMD and ignores their flaws while pointing out Intel's to further their fanboy agendas. For crying out loud, we almost had a moment of calm, rational reasoning there. It's almost as if you're suggesting that the submitter is blowing things out of proportion, and that is IMPOSSIBLE HERE! Our system is fool-proof. Good day.
"Sufferin' succotash."
Well, that's what you get when you stick to crufted designs and try to keep them at all costs although there are known better archtectures. It's just like code: it gets unmaintainable over time.
Ah. Ok. So then -- do these "known better archtectures [sic]" have no bugs then? Significantly fewer bugs? Are the bugs less severe? And how do they compare to the Intel/AMD architectures in terms of speed? I can assure you that I can make a chip that is 100% bug free -- it's also going to run somewhere in the vicinity of the original 8008.
Frankly, I doubt you know all that much about the real ISA that Intel or AMD execute on their cores. The x86 instructions are never executed -- they're translated into an internal only ISA that doesn't look anything even vaguely like the x86 ISA.
I'm so sick and tired of all these kids out of college whining about the x86 ISA. And yeah, I was there once too. But know what? That decreipt, horrible, ghastly API has outlasted every single competitor, has been upgraded from 8-bits to 64-bits without losing backwards compatibility, and runs far, far faster than every chip that's tried to take away the title. And costs less. Intel's proven the doom 'n' gloom wrong everytime -- including with their latest transition off the Netburst architecture. AMD has as well (I give Intel props because for decades they were the only real designers for the x86 ISA; AMD is pretty much responsible for the latest incarnation as x86-64 though).
If you look at any of the modern chip architectures then none of them fall nicely and neatly into "CISC" or "RISC". The Power architecture is awfully CISC like in some ways. The x86 (the classic CISC) doesn't use a complex ISA internally, it has pipelining, branch prediction, caching, etc. -- all classic RISC subsystems that were never supposed to work on CISC. Everyone is multi-core now (to various extents).
The x86 architecture isn't going anywhere. If anything Apple's move should've reinforced this concept -- the fact of the matter is that Intel spends more in R&D than every other (general purpose) chip maker on the planet. Combined. And sells their product for less. That kind of R&D budget makes up for a lot of paper shortcomings.
Welcome to the real world.
if apple doesn't have a serial number -> internal model number table, i would be heartily surprised. instead of asking all these questions about mirrored doors and DVI ports, why not just ask for the product serial number (which you'll need anyway to tie into warranty service)? or better yet, since they've already registered the serial number to their account, you just look up their account and see which machine they have. for larger accounts (several machines) asking for the serial number is more than appropriate, it would be necessary.
my problem with the ipod versioning then becomes "the serial number on the thing is too damned hard to read".
even on my thinkpads, yes there are "Thinkpad R-31" but that is hardly enough when needing detailed technical support, that is why there is easily available "real" type information (e.g. 2656-MU5) when you get down to technical support.
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Therefore its expected that a chip fabricated on a substrate whose minimum feature sizes are half those of the other chip and whose complexity is double the other chip would have 4x the errata items of the other chip.
Complexity of the CPU contributes some to the amount of bugs - more project work = more bugs, though only in cases of introducing new algorithms, not in case of adding "more of the same" - dual core CPU is NOT supposed to have twice as many bugs as single-core counterpart, because the two cores are identical, contain the same flaws as the single core, and new ones are introduced only by the extra glue logic that makes it "dual". Twice the complexity usually means twice the number of gates, not twice the difficulty of design - stuff like cache memory swallows a major part of available space but 64KB of cache is associated with the same number of bugs as 4MB of it. So not x2 by complexity. At most x1.5 or so.
And thet errors are not manufacturing flaws, they are design flaws / software (VHDL) bugs. If I write a program twice as long as original and save it to a harddrive of double the capacity, am I expected to have four times as many bugs? The new technology has its own share of problems but they are to be caught before releasing the chip from the factory, and chip that has a technology-related fault is just faulty and should be replaced. It has nothing to do with what appears in errata.
So - the new CPU can have more bugs than the old one. But not four times as many!
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You also have to bear in mind that designs are modular and have limited connections, so N transistors is not a meaningful number - you should only be concerned with the number of modules and the number of interconnects. (eg: a 32-bit register will obviously take more transistors than an 8-bit register, but both are simply cut-and-paste copies of a 1-bit register. So long as you have the 1-bit form correct, there is no increase in complexity no matter how wide the register becomes.)
As for the interconnects - if you have N modules, you have an upper limit of !N possible interactions, if you can string any possible combination together. That's a big number, even for small values of N. But most of those don't exist. You cannot feed the output of one operation directly into the input of another. There are some special cases where there is a chain of events, but it is not something you can program with total freedom. Many operations just produce a result which is pushed back into the registers. Thus, N modules will produce only a little more than N interactions of interest. That is a much more managable number.
Then you need to consider that processors aren't "open floor plan". They are highly segmented. The term "floating point unit" literally does refer to a definable segment of the chip that is designed for floating point work. Again, from the standpoint of reliability, you can test each unit independently before doing an integrated test, so unit tests don't need to concern themselves with overall complexity or the number of other units out there.
Next up is the cost of a recall. Recalls are expensive. From a pure profit standpoint, you want to spend less on QA than you'd spend on a recall, but the less you spend on QA, the more you are likely to end up spending on that recall. The ideal is to reduce the number of potentially serious bugs to the point where any further initial clean-up will cost more than the money lost in cleaning up afterwards. Less QA than that will cost more than it saves. More QA than that will also cost more than it saves unless it expands the market (ie: the chip becomes good enough to be used in mission-critical systems such as life-support or fly-by-wire systems), but is sometimes good to do anyway for PR reasons.
Finally, not all transistors are "important". Once you know the cache algorithm works, the actual cache memory is irrelevent - memory is rarely implemented "incorrectly", it doesn't "do" anything (the active part is the algorithm), it's just heap.
With modern software verification tools, chip validation suites and the high level of understanding of microelectronics, an average of one bug for every four or five instructions is high. I would consider a chip with a third as many bugs to be only just acceptable for home use, and a thirtieth as many for operations in which any significant number of people would be put at risk. The extra cost would be minimal (compared to all the other costs) and would still be much less than the cost to Intel of the Pentium divide bug or to Transmeta of the flaws in their initial Crusoe chips.
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Well this goes along with the new Apple announcement for a compatibility layer that recreates a genuine Mac OS 9 experience on an Intel-powered Mac. ...
I'll shut up now.
That's exactly my point. All the effort that has to put into it just to make it still work at all. And it's not just on the R&D of intel that all this effort has to be taken. This register starved PU and this horrible MMU. It funny how many design papers you read of people who really wanted to be inventive and bring up some clean designs. And in the introduction of those papers it's almost always a good bet to to expect finding some sententence in the spirit of "Well, we'd just rather do it this and this way, to have a clean and efficient flexible design, but due to the xxx restriction of the x86 architecture, whhich is the dominant on the market, we have to do the following suboptimal workarounds:" and then comes a list. Those kind of sentences I have read in Java whitepapers (x46 is the very reason it's a stack engine), in the L4 kernel documents, in quite a few comments in compilers and the list goes on.
Up to about 15 years ago x86 was ok. Up to about 10 years ago it was bearable. Everr since then it's a mere roadblock for software and hardware development. One that had to be steered around with much efford on a daily basis. Mos people just don't notice it anymore, because they got used to it. Intel builds Ford Ts. The have a big advantage in manufactoring methods and and in economy of scale. And it sure has it's merits. Bet even the Ford T wasn't built for 20 years. If Ford did what Intel does we'd still have to start the car at the front with a lever. And actually we do. We start in real mode.
Just because I can imagine doing a hippopotamus, doesn't mean I'd like to do it.
I think you have that last sentance backwards, or at least, incorrect. AMD chips run at a slower clock speed, but do more per clock cycle than the Intel chips do. While Intel chips are pushing 3GHz and faster, AMD chips are not nearly as fast, and yet remain competitive in terms of 'work done'
AMD has always had more bugs, and some for more serious then the intel one that sparked enough consumer backlash (out of panic) to have a recall.
I have a hard time believing this is true.
I might believe that AMD usually has more bugs, or has more bugs cumulatively, but the number of bugs, being a RANDOM varible, is quite unlikely to be so well behaved that the number of Intel bugs has NEVER exceeded the number of AMD bugs. I would like to see a source for your statement.
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Well then your point is flawed, because as any manufacturer of CPUs will tell you, error will crop up after they are taped out and produced. AMD certainly is no stranger to it, neither is Freescale or IBM. Hell, there are smaller processors used in cellphones and calculators that have errors much worse than anything Intel's ever released, and yet you never hear about those. Why? Because these kinds of errors are trivial to fix in Software.
Secondly, no, these chips are probably revision 8 or 9 internally; they'll typically do a few runs at a time to make sure that yields are where they want them to be, and that mechanically the chip checks out. However, you can not do intrinsic debugging at this level, because of the simple supply problem; there are not enough chips made at this point to get all of your engineers looking at them. This is why most manufacturers won't catch an error until the first production run is underway, and by then it's far too late to go back to your design drafts, fix a bug, and re-tape the processor. It'd delay the product by 4-6 months; you've got to remake all of your lithograph templates and make sure they're all exactly created to spec, you've got to re-send out all of these plates to all of your fabs, you've got to then go through recert and make sure that the chips work (yes, that means you have to make more wafers of bad chips), and then you're still looking at debug time.
And for what? Your processor's accidentially got a single instruction that's lightly flawed which can be checked and fixed in software (if (value == (INTEL_DEBUG_VALUE && expected_value)) { intel_fix(); } ).
Lastly, if you need an example of any product shipping flawed, take a look over at the car industry. There are recalls, after recalls, after recalls on parts that are often bad, and require a new bolt to fix something. Think of this as the same thing, only you don't have to take your car into the garage; you are likely to never know, speak with, or hear of the people who are fixing the problems mentioned in this article. These are problems for OS developers, who are working in debug mode, who *might* run into this problem if and only if some crazy absurd bit-pattern is laid out just right in a register when a command is executed (for example).
So please, before you tell a Computer Engineer how to make a microprocessor, make sure you know what you're talking about. It's better that they catch these problems in the weeks after release so that the OS developers will have time to fix them before their next major version goes out and they actually have to release a patch to deal with it. It's better that they catch them before they run the next production run, just in case there is an error that warrants fixing (and they've only discovered ONE of such errors, and they are probably going to wait until Core Duo rev B to do it). And it's better that they catch them at all, instead of a year down the line when everyone starts to realize their floating point math is going screwy on their multimillion dollar simulations.
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