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No Anti-Virus in Vista

truthsearch writes "Microsoft will omit anti-virus protection in Vista, the next version of Windows. Redmond is promoting Vista as a landmark improvement in Windows security. Yet Jim Allchin also told CRN in a recent interview that there will be no anti-virus software. For unspecified business (not technical) reasons, Microsoft will sell anti-virus protection to consumers through its OneCare online backup and security service."

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  1. Re:So first virus in? by Avohir · · Score: 5, Informative
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  2. Re:Religion is blind. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

    If you are going to try and sound smart, at least spell correctly: du jour

  3. Re:Sure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Actually, after playing with Norton for a little while, I tried to go back to *anything* else, but failed, because Norton has so thorougly infected my system that my only respite was wipe and reinstall.

  4. Re:Damned if they do, Damned if they don't by jacksonj04 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Umm... used Windows lately? As in a properly configured Windows?

    The security model does that one already.

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  5. Re:Two possible reasons by Kalecomm · · Score: 2, Informative

    I spend, unfortunately a large amount of my time in DimWoes because of school, however, I have gotten Broadcom Wireless to work with the ndiswrapper and it seems to work very well. You should check the Ubuntu forums for specifics: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31926 Best Regards, Kalecomm

  6. Re:Damned if they do, Damned if they don't by zippthorne · · Score: 4, Informative

    It isn't enough just to sandbox the viruses. It must also run the programs you DO want to run. A "properly" configured Windows box won't do that. There is plenty of blame to go around for that little feature.

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  7. Re:So let me get this straight... by RzUpAnmsCwrds · · Score: 5, Informative

    First of all, I don't know how you can call WVDDM + WPF + DCE 'not a new graphics engine'. New driver model, new GUI system, and a new window manager - seems new enough to me.

    Second, Vista has a number of big new features:
    - Brand new networking stack that is 100% IPv6 internally
    - New ACPI subsystem including a hybrid STR/STD support, faster suspend/resume, and a more robust mechanism for dealing with bad drivers
    - New audio subsystem with per-application mixing
    - UAP support (not running as admin all the time) with automatic privelage elevation (with user approval) for installers and other programs that need admin access
    - Major memory manager tweaks
    - Kernel tweaks to improve streaming performance
    - New programming framework (WinFX) based on .NET 2.0, WPF, and a host of other new technologies
    - 3D accelerated UI / window manager
    - New Media Center and Tablet PC features
    - Fast User Switching on AD Domains
    - Integrated AntiSpyware
    - Integrated indexing / search (ala Spotlight) including extensive metadata and tagging support
    - New Windows Media Player
    - New version of IE with CSS fixes, phishing filter, tabbed browsing, native XMLHTTP, freform resize (ala Opera), and many security enhancements
    - Support for auxiliry LCD displays (windows SideShow)
    - New, faster install system (no more text-mode 'copying files')
    - New Windows Installer version
    - New printing system / PDF alternative (Metro)

    So, in response to your question, basically everything.

  8. Re:Damned if they do, Damned if they don't by value_added · · Score: 4, Informative

    Umm... used Windows lately? As in a properly configured Windows?

    The security model does that one already.


    Ever administered a Windows system? It's as easy as setting a umask of 022 and using chmod where needed, isn't it? And no issues with file ownership, right? By the time you've set group policies, right-clicked your way through the file system and mucked about in the registry, do find time to tell us more about this security model.

    Or are you suggesting that a Windows user needs a security expert to reconfigure the default installation on their new Dell box to make it properly configured?

    Sorry, but the parent comment about a sane security model is perfectly valid. My guess is that it'll take a few more tries for Windows to reinvent itself and resolve the tortured directory system with the concept of a path and give up on inventing new models. Chances are it'll resemble Unix.