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Activision's GUN Misfires With Native Americans

jkdove writes "Gamergod.com has published a news story reporting on the backlash from Activision's western shooter, GUN. From the article: 'In reaction to the content of GUN, the Association for American Indian Development has started a boycott against Activision. They have requested that certain explicit violence and stereotyping be removed from the game ... Ultimately, the Association for American Indian Development simply wants to see the content corrected in respect of the Apache people ... Even though the historical period portrayed in GUN was fraught with racism, Activision's decision to publish a racially stereotyped videogame represents a serious misstep in social responsibility.'"

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  1. Silly... by grub · · Score: 2, Insightful


    Ah yes, politically correct idiots are trying to re-write history. Not that GUN is exactly history but it's set in a different time with different values. I guess next someone should go through Tom Sawyer and Huckleberry Finn to replace all instances of the word "nigger" with "African American". What will they call the character Nigger Jim; "James from Africa"?

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    1. Re:Silly... by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Ah yes, politically correct idiots are trying to re-write history. Not that GUN is exactly history but it's set in a different time with different values. I guess next someone should go through Tom Sawyer and Huckleberry Finn to replace all instances of the word "nigger" with "African American". What will they call the character Nigger Jim; "James from Africa"?

      No one is trying to rewrite history, but this game certainly is offensive and inaccurate and may very well promote racism. If someone publishes a game called, "Kill the Nigger" that feature KKK members torturing blacks in a historical context, I won't buy it and I'd probably join in a boycott. If some people find Tom Sawyer to be racist and detrimental, well they are free to boycott the publishing company. No one here is advocating censorship. No one is arguing that this company does not have the right to publish this game. What they are arguing is that no one should be willing to give money to people who behave this irresponsibly.

    2. Re:Silly... by faloi · · Score: 2, Informative

      Be careful what you ask for. The ALA reports on books that are chalenged. Tom Sawyer is on the list. Although it doesn't list the reason, I recall hearing that it was for racist views.

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    3. Re:Silly... by grub · · Score: 2, Insightful


      If someone publishes a game called, "Kill the Nigger" that feature KKK members torturing blacks in a historical context, I won't buy it and I'd probably join in a boycott.

      Did you ever see the TV miniseries "Roots" from the late 70's? It's full of racism and brutality. It was also one of the highest rated shows ever. I don't recall there being a lot of racist attacks after Roots played.

      It's just another kneejerk "boycott".

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    4. Re:Silly... by _xeno_ · · Score: 4, Insightful

      A lot of people here have missed the point. Tom Sawyer and Huckleberry Finn may have contained the word "nigger" but they were not racist books. Anyone who thinks they are really needs to actually read them; while some of the characters definitely have racist views the books actually portray black people as, well, people. Tom Sawyer and Huck Finn find that, despite what the adults tell them, their actual experiences show that black people are just people, like them. There's racist speech and racist remarks made by characters in the books, but the books themselves are supposed to show how black people are really just people.

      According to the article, GUN isn't like that. GUN instead portrays American Indians soley in a racist fashion. The characters in a period piece are allowed to be racist. It's expected that an American during World War II would hate Japanese. (But, interestingly enough, not Germans...) Japanese characters are allowed to be racist against Americans. However, Japanese characters in a World War II film shouldn't act like a racial stereotype. They should behave like a Japanese person during that time actually would.

      Yes, you can't ignore racism. It's real, and it should be acknowledged. Pretending it doesn't exist is wrong. However, falling prey to it, and portraying the world based on racist views isn't right either. There's nothing wrong with having racist characters in a game. There is something wrong when the game itself reinforces the racial stereotypes.

      The Association for American Indian Development contents that GUN reinforces racial stereotypes, and the article appears to agree. Having never played the game, I have no way of knowing if they're right, but if the game really does display American Indians as racial stereotypes, they have a valid point.

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    5. Re:Silly... by magefile · · Score: 2, Funny

      I think the complaint was that several pages include a topless woman. Of course, if I can't even find Waldo ...

  2. Good for them by panic911 · · Score: 2, Funny

    The funniest part is the fact that the game sucked SOOO bad. Putting that game out to begin with was a mistake, now they even caused a boycott. Keep up the good work Activision.

  3. GUN by Stargoat · · Score: 4, Informative

    Who cares? GUN was the worst game I bought in the past 3 years. It was just about as dumb as a video game could get. After killing some 200 Indians with my pistol that never ran out of ammunition, riding around on a stupid wagon and in general dumb dialog, I took it out of my PC and put it on the shelf, to be ignored forever. Cowboys and Indians are cool. Westerns are cool. GUN was stupid, mundane, and boring. The best thing for it is to ignore the stinker of a game and wait for it to get into the 2 dollar bin and then disappear.

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  4. Re:UGh by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 5, Funny

    Seriously- why does everything have to be PC?

    It's not just PC, you can get it for all the consoles... : p

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  5. Enough already by mahdi13 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Come on people, relax...it's just a game! It's not like Activision is telling people go out to slander and kill Apaches. Not to mention it's a period game that takes place in a time when hostility towards the Apaches was very high.

    I don't agree with what happened in the past, but that can't be changed and people should know, understand and learn from history. Let's educate people with accurate history instead of trying to re-write the past in order to cover up ones shame.

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  6. And Activision by Tweekster · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Will basically be like "Well since you are not in our target audience, therefore not purchasing our products in any quantity what so ever, well thanks for the boycott, it will only help sales" Why do people think boycotts work when they are not really the purchasers anyways... Bus boycotts worked because black people utilized that service. This wont matter because Native Americans arent exactly the most significant purchasers of video games.

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    1. Re:And Activision by RexRhino · · Score: 2, Insightful

      But we don't want to discourage them. If they weren't threatening a boycott, they would be threatening a lawsuit to have the game banned.

      People threatening boycots is OK. Restricting freedom of speech is not. So lets not complain about this organization who are actually handling this in the right way.

  7. Execs losing sleep by SkyWalk423 · · Score: 3, Funny
    My favorite part:

    In reaction to the content of GUN, the Association for American Indian Development has started a boycott against Activision.

    Considering no one is buying this game anyway, what does this "boycott" mean to Activision? Three lost sales, maybe?

  8. Since when do video games have to be realistic? by Maugrim · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Last I checked you can make a game about anything; like demons for instance. We have wonderful stereotypes of them, running around rending flesh and such. However, what about the demons that in sipping tea in their smoking jackets? I don't hear then complaining. "Mmmmyes, jolly good."

  9. I played the game... Here is my impression: by RexRhino · · Score: 4, Informative

    The first half of the game COULD be considered insensitive, if taken completly out of context. But in the second half, the main character realizes he was wrong for fighting with the Apaches, that the Apaches are simply defending their land, and teams up to help them.

    The main character also single handedly destroys a U.S. military base and butchers the solders inside, and kills the Marshal, and the Governor of the Terroritory, and literaly thousands of other people too, all of whom are stereotyped as bloodthirsty rednecks, so it is not like Apaches where singled out.

    The story is really bad, the acting is worse, but it certainly doesn't portray any single group as the bad guys.

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  12. In other news... by arose · · Score: 2, Funny

    The Association for Hell Minion Development boycots id software.

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  13. Pot Calling the Kettle.... by Thermous · · Score: 2, Funny

    Fine, I'll boycott their casinos.

  14. We have Department of Homeland Security! by neo · · Score: 2, Funny


    {sarcasm}
    I know the American Indians have been waiting a long time for this, but finally the United States is taking a stand against the foriegn invaders from Europe who usurped their lands. The Department of Homeland Security will provide the protection we need from attacks on American Indian's homelands and while it will probably take a long time, rid this country of it's invading anglo-saxon hoards.
    {/sarcasm}

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