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Western Union Ends Telegram Services

Snap E Tom writes "As of this past Friday, Western Union has stopped sending telegrams. The article cites factors such as long distance telephone and faxes that contributed to its demise, but email was the final nail. My hunch is that modern USPS and overnight delivery services did the most damage, though."

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  1. Re:how long by psycho8me · · Score: 3, Informative

    It was Newton who first said that, and he meant it as a cruel joke against a short man.

  2. Radio telegrams by Lxy · · Score: 4, Informative

    Western union may have ended thier telegram service, but radio telegrams are still alive and well. Amateur radio service still uses RTs in emergency communications. The art of "traffic handling" as it's called is still encouraged by the ARRL. Here's a document that explains proper formatting of a radio telgram.

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  3. BT ended the UK Telegram service in 1982 by simong · · Score: 2, Informative

    and switched to Telemessages, which were Telex based with overnight delivery. Business telemessage services are still in the hands of BT Accurate but the personal service was sold off in 2003. What now for Telex though?

  4. Retro-Gram by boustrophedon · · Score: 4, Informative

    Retro-Gram provides the style and class of vintage telegrams with the speed and convenience of e-mail. Their free service will format your message as PDF in any of a half dozen vintage telegram formats and send it by email. For a fee, they will print your Retro-Gram and send it by snail mail.

  5. They recently killed their "BidPay" service, by Ellis+D.+Tripp · · Score: 3, Informative

    as well, presumably due to competition by PayPal. Too bad, as it was a good way to accept international eBay auction payments without PayPal fees or having to go to a Western Union outlet to collect the money...

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    1. Re:They recently killed their "BidPay" service, by The+Conductor · · Score: 2, Informative
      Well there are the electronic gold currencies. E-gold is the original and the most popular so far, but there is also pecunix which can issue cryptographically non-repudiable reciepts. There are also a couple others, e-bullion, (which claims more rigorous reserve auditing), and maybe one or two I can't remember offhand.

      The biggest weakness, IMO, of these services is that they are entirely dependent on the security of the user password, and therefore the client machine, to keep the stored value safe. So don't even think of accessing your account through a Windows machine. Transactions are non-repudiable.

      They are a working implementation of micro-payments. I can send 5 cents on e-gold and the fee is about a fifth of a cent. The fact that they haven't cought on as such seems to me to be an indication that nobody really wants micropayments.

  6. Re:Blazing saddles :) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    That would be "Candygram for Mongo"!

  7. Re:still a use by slashname3 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Today most people have cell phones. Text messaging directly to people would replace telegrams.

  8. Telexes by Kadin2048 · · Score: 2, Informative

    I don't know if the network still exists, but the last time I looked into it, there was still a lot of infrastructure set up to handle telexes, especially internationally.

    I just did a quick Google and it seems that International Telex (that's Telex with a capital T, as opposed to 'telex' as the generic term) has either changed its or been bought out by somebody else called Citycomm.

    They claim that "Telex is still the only legally recognized method of sending an electronic message. Facsimile (Fax) and electronic mail (E-mail), contrary to popular belief, do not constitute a legal document. Telex messages are used in the banking and brokerage industry to electronically confirm billions of dollars in financial transactions daily."

    So I guess the market is pretty safe, for now anyway.

    What I can't figure out is whether the telex networks that used to exist are still around anymore. It seems easy to believe that they just got absorbed into the Internet, but they were pretty interesting when they were operating. I don't pretend to understand it completely, but it was a separate system from regular voice phone lines, and Telex numbers (I think) had a different number of digits. I still have business cards of my father's that list a Telex number, although not with me to look at right now.

    It seems like the telex systems used now are just operating on the regular PSTN network, similar to fax machines.

    If anybody here uses telex services today and wants to comment on how they work, I'd be interested in what the situation is like.

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  9. Re:Money Transfer experience by trash+eighty · · Score: 2, Informative

    i find Xoom to be cheaper than WU for the transfers i have to do, and they seem pretty reliable though i don't think they have as big a network of agents as WU.

  10. Re:1/27/06 by Imsdal · · Score: 2, Informative
    I was about to say that they disappeared in Sweden about five years ago as well, but some research showed that Telia, the state owned phone company, still (or, probably, again) offers them. They are now branded "Luxury Telegrams" and cost SEK 245 (USD$30).

    They are still widely used at weddings where it is customary to send a telegram if you can't make it to the reception. They are never used for business purposes anymore, as the motifs available are all roses, wedding couples etc.

  11. It was Newton by Lucas+Membrane · · Score: 2, Informative

    He said it as a put-down to his rival Hooke, who was of little physical height and notable shortness.

  12. Re:how long by jrockway · · Score: 2, Informative

    > First, the telegraph was the first binary "digital" device. It communicated information using dots and dashes.

    Wrong. It uses dots, dashes, and pauses. If you don't pause between letters, they blur together and the meaning becomes ambiguous. .... could be "eeee" or "h", for example.

    So it's not binary, it's tri-nary.

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  13. Re:how long by jheath314 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Actually, he said 'binary "digital" device', so it's unclear if he knew the difference between the terms. In common parlance binary and digital are used almost interchangeably.

    Let's review:

    Digital: Having only a finite set of symbols to choose from (as opposed to analog, which can have an infinite set of permissible values/signal levels/pulse shapes). By this definition, Morse code is clearly digital, even though the opportunities for doing fancy signal processing are limited.

    Binary: A subset of digital, in which only two symbols are permitted. These symbols can be almost anything, really: a dot versus a dash, a 1 versus a 0, a higher frequency versus a lower one, etc.

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  14. Re:Astronomers - What will they do? by AndroidCat · · Score: 2, Informative

    Here's the page for the IAU: Central Bureau for Astronomical Telegrams which explains how to submit discoveries. (IAU = International Astronomical Union.) They seem to have gone to email mainly, and yes, spam is a problem. Text only messages please! (Submit CCD images seperately.) And you probably want to stick to the format developed for telegrams.

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