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Apple Sued Over Potential Hearing Loss

freaktheclown writes "A man is suing Apple, claiming that the iPod can cause hearing loss for those who use it." From the article: "The iPod players are 'inherently defective in design and are not sufficiently adorned with adequate warnings regarding the likelihood of hearing loss,' according to the complaint, filed Tuesday in U.S. District Court in San Jose, Calif., on behalf of John Kiel Patterson of Louisiana. The suit, which Patterson wants certified as a class-action, seeks compensation for unspecified damages and upgrades that will make iPods safer."

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  1. It was his choice. by Bomarrow1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Well too me this seems rather unfair on Apple.
    In short he had the volume control and it was in his power to change it to the correct level for him.

    It sounds all too like the person who burgled and empty house and fell though the rotten floor boards. Then he sued.

    He shouldn't have had the volume high enough to damage his hearing anyway.

    It seems like saying I should sue /. for keeping me a wake all night to try and get first posts.

    I'm sure if he wins many more will follow though.Could this be the demise of Apple?

    1. Re:It was his choice. by catwh0re · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Not so much a case for Apple, the iPod follows the guidelines for maximum volume output. For example, when it was discovered that the iPod didn't qualify for the European specification (it was off a few db) Apple released a patch for the iPod to lower it's maximum volume output.

      Cases like these aren't generally successful as there is a lot of precedent, this same case has been tried against Sony for their walkman product.

      The conclusion at the end of the day is that it's a difficult case to prove that the iPod caused your hearing loss, and not any of the other environmental factors in your every day life.. afterall there are many iPod owners without hearing loss.

  2. ignorant by dbucowboy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This just shows how ignorant people can be... it's like suing the maker of a handgun because you were careless with it. Take responsibility for your actions people... if you listen to your iPod too loud then deal with the consequences of your stupidity.

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  3. No personal accountability anymore. by grub · · Score: 5, Insightful


    Good idea!

    I'll start suing the manufacturers of the various amplifiers, receivers, and speakers I've had over the past ~25 years of brutalizing my ears. And I'll name all the bands, especially Motorhead, who have given me pleasure in a separate suit!

    My hearing probably isn't what it should be but the last thing I'd consider doing is suing the product makers.

    written as the sweet sounds of Slayer fill my office... :)

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  4. Sure that sounds good and all, but... by Mille+Mots · · Score: 5, Insightful
    This just shows how ignorant people can be... it's like suing the maker of a handgun because you were careless with it. Take responsibility for your actions people... if you listen to your iPod too loud then deal with the consequences of your stupidity.

    I can only assume that you haven't paid attention to the goings-on in the US for the last, oh, two point five decades or so. There is no need to assume responsibility for your actions, as long as you can find a lawyer (you can't swing a dead cat without hitting one) to plead your case. The goal isn't to win a trial, but to win a settlement. Cash in, as it were. There's a whole industry built around these nuisance suits. The worst part is that the ones that do go to a jury trial are likely to be succesful anyway as the jurors apparently sit there thinking, 'Well, if we give this guy a big award, when it's our turn...' Entitlement mentality.

    On top of that, you get the 'junk science' lawsuits. Dow Corning and the silicone breast implant bankruptcy is a prime example. There never was and is not any scientific evidence that silicone breast implants lead to any of the medical conditions (real or imagined) that were the cause of those lawsuits. I believe there are still silicone implants available, too (although DC is no longer maufacturing them).

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  5. Re:Playing Devil's Advocate... by mrchaotica · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Right, so now explain why he's singling out Apple instead of suing everybody who makes earbud-style headphones.

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  6. Re:Playing Devil's Advocate... by HairyCanary · · Score: 5, Insightful
    There are many other targets, then, besides Apple. And there are better targets, too, by your reasoning -- take for example Etymotic, with their earphones that absolutely seal into your ear canal, blocking out almost all outside noise, and putting themselves very close indeed to your eardrum.

    Except those are no more likely than earbuds to damage your hearing. In order to cause damage, the volume has to be high enough to hurt. You ever hear something at 110+ decibels? Holy shiat, you deserve what you get if you cannot respond properly to pain stimuli.

    And while I'm ranting... what about concerts? I went to an Aerosmith concert a few years ago, and the sound was so loud it was distorting in my ear. I mean... LOUD. Shouldn't we be suing them too? Especially since we can't turn down the volume in that situation.

    Oh wait... personal responsibility. Almost forgot it existed. As it seems the person who brought the suit did as well. Either that or he's just looking for money. That might explain going after Apple instead of smaller fish. No, it can't be, he's definitely looking out for all of our best interests...

  7. Re:Playing Devil's Advocate... by Scrameustache · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Because you can only sue people that actually did damage.

    FTFA:
    Patterson does not know if the device has damaged his hearing, said his attorney, Steve W. Berman, of Seattle. But that's beside the point of the lawsuit, which takes issue with the potential the iPod has to cause irreparable hearing loss, Berman said.
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  8. Re:Playing Devil's Advocate... by Kohath · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That's not how courts work.

    You can get a bunch of scientists together and claim it's impossible.

    I can get a bunch of "victims" together who claim that they lost 75% of their hearing from listening at REALLY low levels. They'll cry. They'll force the lawyers to yell the questions. They'll spend the court's time fiddling with hearing aids. They'll talk about how they lost their jobs and how their babies were run over by a bus because they couldn't hear the bus until it was too late. It'll be really tragic. And there's no way to prove they can still hear just as well as before.

    The jury can decide either way: for the huge super-rich corporation or for the tragic half-deafened victims.

    During the trial, some ridiculous "public interest group" will send out a press release warning people of the hearing loss, even at REALLY low levels. It'll be in every newspaper and on every TV newscast. Slashdot will post it 4 times in 3 days.

    Apple will settle the case for $10 per iPod. Lawyers will get $9.02 of it and Apple will give iPod owners 98 cents off their next iTMS music purchase.

    They'll artificially limit the sound level on future iPods and put a warning label on them. They'll raise the price $20.

    The lawyers will buy new houses and fast cars. Then they'll start looking for their next big score. (Maybe Apple will have a hit against earnings because of the case. Did they warn the shareholders sufficiently? I smell a shareholder lawsuit.)