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ESA Praises Sting of Game Software Pirates

Next Generation reports on the arrest of 19 software pirates in Chicago. The ESA sent along their congratulations to federal law enforcement officers, who took down the warez dealers as part of a task force titled 'Opereration Site Down'. From the article: "The international piracy warez group known as 'RISCISO' reportedly pirated $6.5 million worth of games, software and movies since it began operations in 1998. The group maintained several servers that contained 23,000 CD ROMs worth of pirated material, according to the ESA."

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  1. The more you tighten your grip... by voice_of_all_reason · · Score: 3, Funny

    The more pirates will slip through your fingers...

    1. Re:The more you tighten your grip... by ucahg · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I hope not. I hope those who spend time, research, and money into creating new software get paid for their product. You know, kinda like everyone else.

    2. Re:The more you tighten your grip... by CastrTroy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      But look at any other industry. The cost of figuring out how to build the car is much of the cost you pay for one. You only have to figure out how to build the first one. Same goes for a lot of other things that require knowledge to build. If you only consider the costs of the production of the product, and not the work that goes into figuring out how to produce it, then everything ends up looking like it should cost much less than it does.

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  2. Flying Spaghetti Monster will NOT be pleased by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 4, Funny

    In 2000, there were only 17 pirates left.
    Now we are in negative figures just watch as global average temperature become uncontrollable.

    Repent your sins.
    The end of the world is nigh.

    http://www.venganza.org/

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  3. Cannot compute by A+beautiful+mind · · Score: 2, Funny

    Sorry, I can't imagine 23'000 CD-ROM's worth of information, how much is it in the standard Library of Congress format?

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    1. Re:Cannot compute by InsaneGeek · · Score: 2, Informative

      Standard rule is printed collection of the Library of Congress is ~10TB
      700mb * 23000 = 16.1TB
      so it's approximately 1.61 times the Library of Congress

    2. Re:Cannot compute by Woy · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well considering a CD-ROM is about 1mm thick, its obviously 23 meters of data. If you divide the 23m of data by the length of the LoC you will have your answer.

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  4. Never heard of the group by garylian · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I guess the RISCISO group was website based. I hadn't heard of them. I've seen the ones that use Usenet to distribute to anyone who wants the software.

    Even those Usenet groups are dying down. The last time there was a sting, the volume of posting dropped from about 25 titles a day to about 10 titles a day. About 2 months ago, it dropped again, to about 2-3 titles a day it seems. This is probably why.

    Even without those types of pirates, I think you will be seeing a lot of software stop being pirated. The more titles require on-line play with servers to connect to, the easier for the software companies to make sure there is a digital handshake that would be hard to get around.

    Besides, you see a lot of the software companies releasing games that have major bugs in them, requiring a patch that has to be downloaded. I am suspecting that this is one of their methods to defeat the ISO type pirates. Sure, someone can download their game. However, it is basically a free demo that will crap out on you about 5 hours into gameplay due to a major bug. In order to fix said bug, you have to download the patch, which re-installs whatever copy protection the ISO type pirates removed. A simple process, but effective.

    Secure-ROM 7 apparently also seeks out such programs as Daemon Tools and refuses to let the application run if it is installed. Even people using stuff like Blind Write and other tools that try to hide applications like Daemon Tools are failing to mask their usage.

    Personally, I am kind of tired of the pirated software stuff. The software companies are going to harder and harder methods of protection, and it can and does catch paying customers in their path.

    I own a copy of Atari's "Dungeons & Dragnons: The Temple of Elemental Evil". I had played it when it first came out, and not really played it again. I had used Daemon Tools to hold an image of the original CD 1, so I didn't have to swap so much. (I'm an admitted game junkie, and I'm tired of swappings CDs when I want to play Half-Life 2, as opposed to Sacred, as opposed to NWN, etc.) A HD crash more than a year later wiped the CD image out. When I went to re-install, there was a new patch to put in, so I installed it when I loaded the game again. The problem is, they added new protection in the latest patch, and said protection told me that my original game CD was not valid. Calls to Atari were a joke. They refused to fix it because when they asked for a diagnostic to be run, it identified that Daemon Tools was found in the registry. Even uninstalling it, they refused to help. I offered to mail them the original game box first, and they could return me a new box with new CDs. No dice.

    Many game companies are offering free demos of products available to download from places like fileplanet. So, there is no need to pull a full cd image from some place that is going to require a patch that will re-enforce the pirate's efforts, anyways. But, people that buy the games can suffer, and find their software is ruined years later by a patch the are supposed to need.

    Personally, I think half of the patches for Blizzard's Diablo II: Lord of Destruction that have been done over the years is to reinforce copy protection.

    1. Re:Never heard of the group by AKAImBatman · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I own a copy of Atari's "Dungeons & Dragnons: The Temple of Elemental Evil". When I went to re-install, there was a new patch to put in, so I installed it when I loaded the game again. The problem is, they added new protection in the latest patch, and said protection told me that my original game CD was not valid.

      If you think that's bad, you should have seen Homeworld: Cataclysm. It came with a "Copy Protection" scheme that did the following: If there's a CD-Writer installed on the system, don't run the game. Do not print a useful error message.

      I had to call up support (I *hate* calling support) to find out what the problem was. The only way to play the game is to replace your CDRW drive with a CDROM (!) or download an unofficial crack to "fix" the issue.

      I don't know what Sierra/Barking Dog Studios was thinking, but it couldn't have been a very complex thought. Nearly every system released on the market has a CD Burner installed! The return rates on the game must have been incredible!

      Corporate stupidity. Bah, humbug.

  5. makes me wonder.. by tont0r · · Score: 3, Insightful

    if they will notice that despite all these piracy busts they do, their profits still remain the same.

  6. This ESA = Entertainment Software Association by TorKlingberg · · Score: 4, Informative

    This ESA is probably Entertainment Software Association.
    Strange that the articles doesn't say, as most of us probably think of ESA as European Space Agency

    1. Re:This ESA = Entertainment Software Association by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yup, I was wondering what the European Space Agency was doing solving software piracy? I don't really think most people have much need for a pirated rocket flight control system.

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  7. Wow by British · · Score: 2, Funny

    Some company(anything like the BSA?) is praising cops busting people.

    This reminds me of(in Clerks) when Randall kicked out some customer out of the video store and Jay goes "YEAH!@#". Ie he contributed absolutely nothing. Rhetorical!