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Are Vertical Mice The Next Ergonomic Trend?

ThinSkin writes "Devoid of kookiness like many of its ergonomic counterparts, the VerticalMouse 2 is shaped like an ordinary mouse, only turned 90 degrees so that your arm is in a natural 'handshake position.' ExtremeTech's review of the VerticalMouse 2 suggests that its horsepower and familiar feel make it a worthy candidate to replace a horizontal mouse. Some of the drawbacks include its $75 price tag and difficulty to pick up in 3D gaming scenarios."

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  1. On trends ... by popra · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... yeeesss, this 'handshake position' seems very familiar somehow.
    Seriously though, might I suggest inventing a self cleaning keyboard/mousepad.

    1. Re:On trends ... by skoaldipper · · Score: 5, Funny
      Trends indeed!

      First they turned the computer case itself on edge. Then the mouse.

      But I'm a tradionalist at heart. I will just lie sideways atop my office desk to restore balance to my universe...
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    2. Re:On trends ... by Otter · · Score: 4, Interesting
      The really trippy thing is the vertical keyboard reviewed on the same site.

      (BTW, I think you missed the OP's point...)

    3. Re:On trends ... by skoaldipper · · Score: 3, Funny

      Oh, yeah, I saw the keyboard too. Pretty slick. I plan on resting my head right there in the middle between the flaps. It should help drown out the Britney Spears music coming from two cubicles down.

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    4. Re:On trends ... by c_forq · · Score: 4, Funny

      You're male, aren't you?

      Did you buy that UID on eBay? I want to say you must be new here but something about my UID being an order of magnitude higher than yours prevents me from following through.

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  2. A step backward by TripMaster+Monkey · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you compare the design of the VerticalMouse 2 with the Quill Mouse, you can see that they're virtually identical...with one important difference. The Quill Mouse is equipped with a shelf where the edge of your hand rests. The VerticalMouse 2 has no such shelf. Without a support for your hand, you'll have to support the weight of your hand by:
    • resting it in an abnormal position on top of the VerticalMouse 2, thereby completely negating the advantages of a vertically oriented mouse,
    • the use of your arm muscles, leading quickly to fatigue and muscle strain,
      or,
    • clinging to the vertical surface of the mouse with your fingers and/or thumb, again leading to fatigue and muscle strain.

    Now add to all this the discomfort the large-handed will suffer as the edge of their hands develop friction burns against their desktops.

    Any way you slice it, this product is a bad design and a non-starter. Save your money.
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    1. Re:A step backward by Hays · · Score: 4, Informative

      I used an evoluent vertical mouse for months. Where did I rest my hand? On the mousepad. Maybe if you have small hands this is an issue?

      As it happens, the vertical mouse didn't seem to help at all with my RSI.

    2. Re:A step backward by jgc7 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Is it just me or am I the only person in the world who wrests their wrist on the mousepad and moves the mouse with my fingers. With this new mouse it looks like I would have to operate the mouse like a toddler and move my entire arm. The shelf design seems to only exacerbate the problem.

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  3. Dr. Benway perhaps? by rueger · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A main driver for this is the desire to reduce the risk or pain associated with carpal tunnel syndrome and other RSI disorders ... The idea is to allow your arm to control the mouse in a more natural position, with the thumb up, in a hand-shaking position. Doctors who specialize in ergonomics consider this position preferable.

    I have to ask, did anyone at ExtremeTech actually talk to a doctor who specializes in such things, or were these comments lifted from an Evoluent press release?

    The reality of RSI is just so, so much more complex than these simple solutions would suggest.

    Although how can you argue with a review like this:

    Gained all the votes in terms of comfort and facility of use, of "look", colour and sympathy: the panel as a whole totally adhered to this new product.

  4. Vertical not the answer by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Ages ago I had a Gyration GyroMouse which totally kicked butt. With a mouse free from having to make contact with a horizontal surface, plus the fact I clicked with my thumb, rather than stressing my index finger, I found it to be a natural and easy feel. The only caveat was as the mouse remained in my palm the piezo-gyros would warm up a bit and the mouse would drift a little, but recalibration wasn't hard to do. $75 isn't an issue when you're talking about getting a superior mouse.

    Poo. I've got some real ideas on how a mouse really should work, which could allow hands to remain on the keyboard, but after seeing an idea of mine ripped right off of /. and for sale on ThinkGeek, you can guess why I won't post any of these ideas.

    and it makes toast, too!

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  5. The next big thing? by Andrew+Aguecheek · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Basically, no they're not. No more than we are ever going to drive our cars using joysticks or keyboards. People like what they're used to. This is a gimmick. Move along, nothing to see here.

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  6. Trackball by CastrTroy · · Score: 4, Informative

    Trackballs are the way to go. I don't know why we ever chose a mouse over a trackball. They are much easier, as you don't have to move your hand/arm all over the place. Only your fingers and thumb move. Since switching to a trackball, I have much less problems with wrist pain. Also, I find that trackballs are more accurate, and work greate for PC gaming, because you don't have to lift and reposition it every few seconds.

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    1. Re:Trackball by NeoSkandranon · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Trackballs are okay for some types of PC games, RTSs and RPGs in my experience, but for a fast paced FPS it seems just too hard to keep looking in all directions as well as aim accurately using just a thumb. In those situations a mouse gives you much finer control. You also still at some point have to reposition your thumb, when you spin the ball a full half turn.

      Now that I think about it, I suppose the sensitivity of a trackball could be adjusted so that a 'flick' of the thumb moves the player's viewpoint approximately the same as pivoting the wrist would move a mouse, which would equialize things a lot, but I'm still not convinced you'd be able to react as quickly.

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  7. Nothing like discrimination... by jferris · · Score: 5, Interesting

    $75 for the righty version. It is $105 for the lefty version. No wonder lefties are continually forced to conform to a right handed world. It was bad enough going to Catholic school, but I thought that the lefty-discrimination was over once I broke out...

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  8. Re:____-click? by FuzzyBad-Mofo · · Score: 4, Funny

    Whippersnapper! Some of us are still clicking on icons of 5.25" disks..