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KDE 4 Screenshots
carlmenezes writes "Screenshots of the upcoming and much talked about KDE 4 have appeared at Planet Diaz. They include screenshots of the control panel, system tray, tabbed views, music and mail views, plus a mockup or two. I don't know what the Gnome guys are up to, but KDE is starting to look seriously cool."
I'm talking about the complete environment, which is why I was comparing it to Gnome. KDE has more issues than I can get into right now, but if that's all you've been using for eight years, you probably don't see them. I think they're glaringly obvious if looked at from a non-KDE user perspective.
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I'm posting because I'm genuinely interested in what is being done for the sake of usability. I do not wish to debate what the current problem are... I don't have time for that right now.
Then again, after drinking US coffee and US beer, it becomes quite clear that the USA is not the place to be looking for examples of good taste either. :)
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IS cloning XP all you have to do these days to earn the title "Artist"?
Saying Java is nice because it works on all OS's is like saying that anal sex is nice because it works on all genders.
It's the redhat FUD. Americans got taken in by the redhat "KDE sucks" marketing (which I presume was because redhat want more propriety apps on linux so people get used to paying for stuff, so they want gtk to be the dominant toolkit) and are trying to justify themselves.
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Am I the only one seeing odd similarities between KDE4 and Gnome screenshots?
Yes, you are. These mock ups are nothing like Gnome because what they're doing is putting some serious thought into the interface, whilst at the same time keeping all the features that people want and need but thinking about where they go and how they're arranged. It's called usability done right. All Gnome does is take a hacksaw to all the features 'that will confuse ordinary users' simply as an excuse because they don't have the framework and resources to implement the features KDE has. Linus Torvalds made that very same point in a pretty no nonsense way not so long ago.
I don't know what the Gnome guys are up to
I suspect they don't either.
"The real problem is it's slow"
No, I think the real problem, is all those stupid sound effects. Enough with that already. They suck.
No matter what anyone who is a big fan of open source development says, KDE and Gnome will continue to look half-baked for eternity. The big reason for that is that no decent artist worth his paycheck is ever going to bother to work in a Unix environment for free. The very idea is insipid. Gnome will continue to be this dark world where geeks have Matrix themed desktops, and KDE will continue to look like it was made from cheap plastic. Microsoft can afford to make the artists sell their souls, and the Apple world just snaps their fingers to get the best art in the world. The stuff that makes up Linux desktop GUIs is always going to be made by the second-hand artist who is not good enough to work for MS or Apple. Thus, the desktops are doomed to mediocrity.
What, because once you go past that age your life becomes so dull and boring that dull and boring is all you want?
I am trolling
Regardless of what you tell yourself, you are not better than the rest of us.
That's bullshit. Everyone is not the "same". On average, people are idiots. There are dumber ones, and there are smarter ones. Also, on average, people don't have a friggin clue about what looks good or what is tasteful or useable. Witness the hordes of cars driving around with loud, mismatched body kits, outrageous wings, Japanese writing on American cars, the list goes on for as long as someone cares to discuss.
This extends to the average programmer or developer. They don't have a clue about usability. That's why KDE is cluttered with crap and Gnome is so featureless as to be useless. It's the same idea taken to opposite extremes. Personally, I can program well AND have a good eye for aesthetics/usability too, so in that respect I AM better than most. I am sure there are others who are the same way and who's to say the grandparent isn't? So your assertion that he is not "better than anyone" is unfounded.