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KDE 4 Screenshots
carlmenezes writes "Screenshots of the upcoming and much talked about KDE 4 have appeared at Planet Diaz. They include screenshots of the control panel, system tray, tabbed views, music and mail views, plus a mockup or two. I don't know what the Gnome guys are up to, but KDE is starting to look seriously cool."
Coral Cache for the curious:
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(that first one was working for me, but I haven't been able to get the second to load yet)
--Nycto
KDE makes me want to log out of Linux, but that's just my opinion. Here's some of the better pictures from the forum post that seems unresponsive atm. Gogo google-cache.s 31jm.png
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http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/2962/component
http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/707/possibleui
http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/5343/fake5bo6p
http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/2605/fakepanel
http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/8478/desktop1v
I don't need this, I've got a Master's Degree in folklore and mythology!
Since the Slashdot effect is working it's magic, here are (unfortunately only three) other screenshots: http://garret.wordpress.com/2006/01/30/kde4-screen shots/
"Fuck, the text doesn't even fit in some of the configuration windows unless I resize them!"
Fuck, you just discovered a well known and annoying kubuntu bug, not a kde bug.
Same goes for the default layout. It's kubuntu specific, not the KDE default layout.
So all you showed us so far is two kubuntu problems. Well done.
Oh, and btw.:
http://usability.kde.org/
Have fun!
If it is all mock-ups it is because there is no such this as KDE 4.0. Work on KDE 4.0 is currently happening on library level, porting to QT4 is still under way. There won't be KDE4 any time soon. The UI work (desing, proof-of-concepts) is happening in parallel to the library development but does not yet constitute part of what could be called KDE4.
How about the stupid kwallet and multiple email accounts? Add some account settings and kwallet doesn't know about it because you've closed it? Oops, can't get email for that account. Quit kwallet - can't get email for all the accounts. AND the passwords are all permanently gone. Nice "feature."
Or in kontact - try to change the folders so that it saves mail to another folder with the same name but somewhere else in the folder hierarchy - for example, instead if /accountname/inbox/sucker to /inbox/accountname, and the changes take effect .... sort of ... (if you don't delete the previous folder, you now end up with multiple copies of your mail ... and what's worse, those copies both end up in the same folder ... which is either the old one or the new one, at random.
Not as bad as the showstopper in ThunderTurd - manually select part of a message to quote, and if the quote goes all the way to the last character, and you do a Ctl+C for copy, it quits. Cute.
Or the KDE su dialog - checking the "keep password" box doesn't.
Or how, when you select one multi-screen method (stretch across screens) and try to change it to something else (dual screens) it craps out, over and over, for weeks at a time. Finally, give up, use gnome, check KDE every few weeks ... nope, still crapped ut, nope, nope ... hey it "fixed itself". Guess another bug got scotched.
These aren't big problems in the scheme of things, since we have options (unlike certain other people), and KDE has its uses. But you did ask for specifics ... so here are a few.
The real problem is it's slow ... even in comparison to Gnome.
I hate to rain on your parade guys, but these are NOT "screenshots" of KDE4, and I have no idea why the admin of those forums (who posted the pictures) claims that they are. These pictures are mockups. Not screenshots but mockups. Many people have ideas what KDE could look like, and many of them have created mockups to demosntrate their ideas. There are many KDE-related forums/websites that are full of such mockups.
There are no interesting KDE4-screenshots to show because there's nothing to show really. The work on KDE4 is going on at the library-level at the moment. The actual GUI (if you could get it work that is) would propably be almost identical to KDE3.5.
Move along, nothing to see here.
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I believe it's actually an old unix standard, rather a KDE specific thing. As I understand it, the implementation is as follows:
focus follows mouse - window focus is whichever window the mouse touched last, but can be 'stolen' by explicit actions such as opening new windows, popups etc (if you launch a shortcut etc)
focus under mouse - window focus is whichever window the mouse touched last, and cannot be stolen.
focus strictly under mouse - window focus is whichever window the mouse is hovering over, and if the mouse is not touching a window, no window has focus.
Remember kids, it's all fun and games until someone commits wholesale galactic genocide.
http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/8529/1079108511 1010841086108213du.png. png
http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/1358/screen8qt
Not that exiting yet.
Well not if you're looking for actual screenshots.
These mock ups and their kind have been appearing on kde-artists.org for months now and are the work of artists trying to concenptualise ideas the devs could be working on.
AFAIK the developers haven't gotten up to doing anything remotely visual for KDE4 yet and are still working on the underpinning libraries.
L.
To provide some alternate perspective:
Screens:
Screen1
Screen2
Screen3
Videos:
Vids taken with a video camera
New window manager video (long)
Conceivably some of these goodies could be merged into KDE. Given the blatant sexiness of this handful of technologies, I'd expect it will be happening reasonably soon.
And I believe that everywhere you see "Search", it is a beagle indexed search. WinFS eat your heart out.
I have never had that problem. Kwallet is happily running in the system-tray, managing my passwords and such. And I have never had any problems with it.
Haven't tried to do something like that, so I can't comment. But you DO know that you can use some other mail-client with KDE? Or do you think that if some app in KDE has some esoteric problem, it means that KDE as a whole sucks?
Have you filed a bug-report?
Huh? each release as been faster than the one before it. On my box, startup takes few seconds, apps appear in fraction of a second, and everything is nice and fast. Memory-consumption is pretty low as well. Now, I have a somewhat fast machine (A64 3200+), but I have used it on slower machines as well (800Mhz Duron, 400-500Mhz K6) and it worked just fine there as well.
I did do a comparison to GNOME last year. And the speed was more or less the same. IIRC, KDE started up 1-2 seconds faster, and that was the only major difference between them. Other things (apps etc.) were more or less the same.
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