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Matchbox-sized Laser Projector

soupisgoodfood writes "Light Blue Optics Ltd. have developed a laser-based projector called the PVPro. It's small enough to fit into a cellphone or PDA. Some specs: Supports resolutions up to 2048x1280; No moving parts; Infinite focus; Green monochrome, with a colour version expected late 2006; Max consumption of 1.4W with an average of <350mW. Looks a like a good solution to the increasing problem of smaller devices trying to display more information."

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  1. Missing spec by jthayden · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Price?

    1. Re:Missing spec by JRGhaddar · · Score: 5, Funny

      Actually I was wondering if it could project a holographic Princess Leia?

    2. Re:Missing spec by lbrandy · · Score: 4, Funny

      Price?

      The lasers run about 10k$, but the sharks are alot more expensive

    3. Re:Missing spec by famebait · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Never mind the price, can we actually see it project something?

      I've been waiting for laser projectors arrive for a good while now; it's sort of obvious that it's got to be the solution at some point, and this heading made me jump in my seat. But as long as they can't even show a picture of it working, I'm still not holding my breath.

      For something as obviously a far from ready for commercialisation as this, noone could know the price of a consumer-ready unit yet.

      That said, using holography to direct the beam without conventional optics and moving parts does seem like an interesting step forward. Hope they work it all out soon.

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  2. How this was invented... by voice_of_all_reason · · Score: 2, Funny

    Q: Now, Mr. Bond. For your mission, we have this keychain-sized laser projector that serves as a stun grenade when the red button is held.

    M: Hey, that sounds cool. Why don't you take out the explosive and send one over to my office? Pip pip, cheerio.

  3. Re:Privacy? by JesseL · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Uh huh. And why would this stop you from also having a more discrete display?

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  4. Miniature Office Supplies by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 3, Funny

    Now we have the mini projector, I want a mini red stapler.

    and you know what, when it arrives - its mine not yours.

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  5. airplane advertisements by 0110011001110101 · · Score: 2, Funny
    So now when we're blinding pilots with our ground-based lasers, the passengers can read my annoying cellphone text messages while plummeting to the earth...

    Yet another way I'm sure I will come to hate cellphones...

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    1. Re:airplane advertisements by NormalVisual · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Having worked with much bigger lasers than the pointer in question for a number of years, I still think the whole thing is ridiculous. An average green pointer with a divergence of 1.5 millirads will produce a spot about 9 feet across at a distance of 3000 feet (the distance at which the guy convicted was said to have been), and assuming an output power of 5 milliwatts and absolutely no scattering, that works out to around 550 nanowatts per square inch. It's nighttime, so let's assume the pilot's eyes are fully dilated to 6mm, which means that if the laser hits him directly, each pupil will receive around 30 nanowatts of power.

      It might be a noticeable blip in your field of vision at night (certainly less than the airport beacon lamps), but no one can convince me that it's enough to even dazzle someone. It's definitely an immature thing to do, and I might even go along with it being a misdemeanor offense at the state level, but it's certainly not worthy of a 20 year sentence. I especially liked how the guy was charged with "lying to federal officers", while our government apparently feels no shame in doing the same to the citizenry.

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  6. Computer by everphilski · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Once these come out in color, imagine having one of these babies inside your laptop. You can then set your laptop on any work surface 2-10' from a wall and have a big screen monitor. If we want to get fancy even we can slap some gyros and accelerometers into the computer and you can have the computer on your lap, and provided you don't wiggle too much ( no pr0n ) you could probably work fairly well from a sofa as well, the software would adjust the image and angle of the projector using servos, etc. Very cool.

    1. Re:Computer by AKAImBatman · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Once these come out in color, imagine having one of these babies inside your laptop.

      I have a better idea. Imagine a portable LaserMAME console. You could project classic Asteroids or Gravitar games onto walls! OR, they could use it to bring back the Vectrex in all its "portable" glory! (Perhaps even Game Boy sized?) :)

    2. Re:Computer by ardle · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Not sure how well one of these would do 10 feet from the wall: the specs are here (pdf), I don't get them.

      Can't copy-n-paste from the PDF but the figures I read included the following: Video-style images, typical image diagonal and brightness, for a 16:9 aspect ratio image: 15" @ 200 candles/m squared (equivalent brightness to typical laptop screen).

      They have a "full brightness" figure but this seems to be less bright than the "laptop" value! Can anyone explain?

    3. Re:Computer by 0110011001110101 · · Score: 5, Funny
      I have an even better idea. Use this to project a fake doorway onto walls and watch your victims slam into walls, ala Bugs Bunny.

      Hours of fun in my book, much more so than Asteroids or Gravitar. It's funny when it's not you.

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  7. color ? by Arthur+B. · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Well, that's easy for the green and red part, the blue laser is other business.. they don't come cheap nor small.

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    1. Re:color ? by Arthur+B. · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Naa, it's blue-violet... use it and you'll get some shity colors. For some reason, the human eye perceives some red in the violet (the sensitivity function of the red detecting cells is bimodal with a small bump in the violet)... so as long as there is some red in your image you could compensate it by lowering the amount of red but you won't get true-blue. Oh well, maybe not that much of a problem, after all, the brain perception of color is relative to the context rather than absolute, so in a dark room this would give good results, but not in a lighted environment with color references.

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    2. Re:color ? by maxwell+demon · · Score: 4, Informative

      That won't work: There's no red light in the blue-violet laser. Indeed, the laser has just one exact wavelength, so a filter could not change its color (because the color change is done by absorbing different wavelengths). The "problem" is within our eyes, because our red-receptors don't just react to "red light" (longest visible waves), but also to "blue-violet light" (shortest visible waves). So unless you find a way to create "negative red" (i.e. a sort of light which suppresses the red receptors instead of activating them), there's no way to supress that "red".

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    3. Re:color ? by cbreaker · · Score: 2, Informative

      The lasers in Blu-Ray players will likely be very small, very precise devices that would not translate directly into a laser projector system like this.

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    4. Re:color ? by kcatpil · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This is not true, blue laser light specifically around the range of 473nm is becoming increasingly more advanced. Remember when red solid state lasers came around, a simple pen type red laser would cost upwards or $100. Then you could find a crappy keychain one in the 90's for 20 bucks. But at that point green pointers became popular, but the price tag when they were released was also extremely high, now this cost has become more manageable, I recently bought a standard 5mW 532nm laser pointer for $50 on ebay. Blue lasers are following the same patterns as red and green lasers, however, their progress is a bit slower since it uses less common materials, the ticket price on a 5mW is still around $900-1000. I am sure that soon enough we will find that blue lasers will also be selling at the dollar store, while yellow pointers are being sold for $100 (yellow lasers are currently being sold for ~$1200).

  8. New gadget for class by JJ+the+Moo · · Score: 2, Funny

    Having a projector that size would make it so much easier to view all your converted, downloaded, mega-shrinked videos on the back of the student in front of you.

  9. News From The Past:Similar Projector in Full Color by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    The Fraunhofer Institute for Photonic Microsystems in Dresden, Germany actually had a similar Projector one year ago.
    It works at 640x480 in Full Color (3*8 bit).

    It's even smaller at the size of "2 sugar cubes".

    See here for yourself

  10. Did anyone else notice this? by maxwell+demon · · Score: 4, Funny
    From the summary:
    Light Blue Optics Ltd. have developed [...] Some specs: [...] Green monochrome [...]

    If they make a monochrome projector, I'd at least expect a light blue one! :-)
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  11. pictures in use? by Deathlizard · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Has anyone seen a picture of the projector in use?

    Definetly has me interested, Especially a color model. If they can replace all of our LCD based projectors with a laser one thats absoletly quiet and virtually maintience free for not much more than an current LCD/DLP projector, then they definetly got my attention.

    1. Re:pictures in use? by rusty_razor · · Score: 2, Informative

      After poking around on the site, I found a link to a press release containing a PowerPoint (yuck!) presentation. There were some images in there, which I've posted to my company's technology blog.

  12. Action shot? by Winterblink · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Ok, so there's pictures of it sitting next to a penny, and in the hands of some dude. How about a picture of it projecting something?

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    1. Re:Action shot? by PatrickThomson · · Score: 4, Informative

      That's actually a 2p coin, it's about 2.5cm in diameter.

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  13. About time! by bangzilla · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I hate getting ripped off by projector manufacturers who charge me in the hundreds of dollars for projector bulbs that (a) cost a fraction to make and (b) burn out in much less time than advertised. Sure, this built-in to a cell phone could be fun/useful, however my immediate need is a projector for my laptop that is small, robust, doesn't consume *very* expensive bulbs, full color and high resolution. This device may not be there just yet -- but it appears to be within spitting distance. If this company can't get there -- someone else will. All this I applaud.

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    1. Re:About time! by Solder+Fumes · · Score: 2, Funny

      I built my own projector, and the bulbs are only $40. Plus they last about 10,000 hours. Granted, the projector is about as small as an end table. And it's not as bright as what's on the market today. But I still love it.

    2. Re:About time! by spinozaq · · Score: 5, Informative

      Mecury arc lamps have much _lower_ profit margins then other consumer electronic parts. So do projectors in general. The lamps have very exotic materials in them, like very very pure tungsten and specially manufactured quartz casings. You're not getting ripped off. The prices would come down some if more projectors were out there in people's living rooms, but not by much. If there were really a racket on mecury arc lamps, we could do something about it. Hopefully laser tech will eliminate the need for these expensive ( and very polluting, in manufacture and waste ) mecury arc lamps.

    3. Re:About time! by greg_barton · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'm waiting for something like this to go 1024x768, then I'll probably get one. LED lamp. No heat, long life. Not terribly bright, though.

  14. Not very bright by hcdejong · · Score: 2, Informative

    From the PDF:
    Typical Diagonal Image & Brightness: 7" @ 800 cd/m^2 - 15" @ 200cd/m^2 (50% max average pixel amplitude)
    What good is all that resolution when you can't get the viewing area above 15" without going to a dark room?

    Not that it's not a brilliant (hah!) achievement, anyway. Bring on the fanless projectors!

  15. Why mobile? by RingDev · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I have a 48" projection TV and a 21" CRT monitor, running both at the same time sucks massive amounts of power. Replacing them both with a laser projection system that takes less then a watt and a half to run would be fine by me!

    -Rick

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    1. Re:Why mobile? by jfengel · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I think that by the time you spread that 1.5 watt image over a 48" diagonal, you'd better have the room pretty dark if you want to see it.

      They give figures for a 15" screen; a 48" image is going to require 9 times as much power. I'm sure you'd be content with 13 watts, too, compared to the vast amounts of juice your 48" projector puts out.

  16. Green Monochrome? by Quince+alPillan · · Score: 2, Funny
    Supports resolutions up to 2048x1280; No moving parts; Infinite focus; Green monochrome, with a colour version expected late 2006...

    Hey! I remember that. The computer lab's Apple IIes had those (though admittedly, not 2048x1280). I wonder if you can play Oregon trail or lemonade stand on this thing...

  17. It's all fun and games.... by 2Dumb2B4Gotten · · Score: 2, Funny

    until someone gets their eye put out by Junior's laser-based micro projector.

  18. Sweet by Pxtl · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No moving parts is neat - the galvanometers they use for laser-light shows are a colossal PITA.

    I'm expecting to see game consoles that don't need a TV anymore - would be super-portable.

    Now, the question is when we can couple this with pupil-tracking to draw the images directly onto the retina. I want my metaverse.

  19. Frickin' Guppies with Laserbeams attached to their by supertsaar · · Score: 2, Funny

    Evil!

    Now we can strap lasers to guppies heads as well....

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  20. Re:First up by Ekarderif · · Score: 2, Funny

    Why would use ColdFusion when you can use Python?

  21. Heads Up Displays? by Iphtashu+Fitz · · Score: 4, Funny

    Is this the sort of thing that could be used in HUD's in cars? Or what about high-resolution wearable displays? It's probalby now just a matter of time before you see people walking around with their video ipods completely oblivious to everything going on around them (as if they're not now) as they watch porn on the subway while going to/from work.

    1. Re:Heads Up Displays? by SoCalDissident · · Score: 2

      This is modded as funny, but I personally know of two accounts where guys have been in car crashes while watching "movies" on their in-dash video... HUDs are one possible use, as is projecting things outside the car; for example, nav directions on the road in front of you. BMW has done some experiemtns of that sort with steerable LED headlights. Which makes me wonder how this would compare to an LED based projector, or if this type of technology could be used in larger projectors for home use. Even withthe cost of bulbs included, projectors offer far more value over most other TV systems, with the biggest drawback being the ambient light requirements. A laser might have the potential to remove that drawback and really push projectors more mainstream.

  22. Blue lasers really still so hard to come by? by D4C5CE · · Score: 2, Informative
    There some two million hits for a blue fiber laser (at least some of them genuine, one should expect, and at a usable wavelength?), and that's not even counting yet another half a million in British spelling...

    Moreover, years have gone by already since Schneider/Jenoptik demonstrated their "laser display technology" (albeit "diode-pumped solid-state", i.e. not quite as tiny...) and announced to have "developed the heart of this technology, the Red-Green-Blue laser (RGB laser), ready for mass production." [sic!]

  23. Yeah really, no pictures? by TheSkepticalOptimist · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Some news stories don't need them, but anytime a press release comes out about some new visual technology (eInk, laser projectors, etc), I get annoyed that they can't show the technology being demonstrated. Sounds more like vaporware and a company trying to get investors excited to dump millions into them before finding out the technology isn't feasible and walk away with those millions leaving the company bankrupt.

    Rant aside, if this technology DOES exist, it is very cool. Integrating a projector into mobile devices or notebooks is great, but considering the resolution, it would a great Home Theater projector as well. Laser light remains strong and bright over long distances, so in theory, you should be able to get big screens in the home without worrying about dimming the image.

    The only thing I worry about is that while having a high resolution, laser is such a highly focused light that will these "pixels" be too separated to offer a decent image? Even at 2000+ points across, if those points are spread out too far apart, then you won't get a decent projected image. Chances are, mobile applications where you can shine the image a few inches or feet away is probably all that laser projectors are good for. Throwing the image across 20 feet, while still bright, might separate the pixels too much and make for a poor image.

    So far, it looks like this company is just looking for investors, and as such, I would consider this vaporware. They are definitely looking to bank off the success of iPod video devices as well as the current fad of displaying television on Cell phones.

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    1. Re:Yeah really, no pictures? by nic_from_LBO · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Hi there I work for LBO and I can confirm that the projector really does work and is currently being shown to interested parties at 3GSM in Barcelona. We will also be demonstrating the projector in action at the big displays conference and exhibition in San Francisco in June (http://www.sid.org/conf/sid2006/sid2006.html). Look forward to seeing you there. ;-)

    2. Re:Yeah really, no pictures? by Rich0 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I doubt it is pulsed - the laser is probably on continuously at variable amplitude. So, the pixels will just blur into each other. This is how a regular TV works as far as I understand. If you look at a TV you see lots of dots, but the reality is that the bandwidth on a standard TV is not sufficient to go from black to full RGB in one pixel - which is why small-fonts on TVs look horrible (it is also why analog TV is described in terms of lines of resolution and not columns - only the lines are discrete). A computer monitor is more expensive than a TV because it actually achives high bandwidth and consequently truly high resolution.

      My guess is that with the laser projector each pixel will really be a horizontal dash. The only place you might get separation would be in the vertical direction, but you get that even with normal TVs and it isn't very noticable. If you fired it against a screen that would scatter the light somewhat then it might help in this regard.

  24. Combine this with a virtual keyboard by PIPBoy3000 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    They also have a virtual keyboard for sale. Imagine setting your cell phone on a table, pushing a button, and getting an instant monitor and keyboard. No one will need PCs for surfing the web and common functionality. Give it ten years or so to become widespread.

    1. Re:Combine this with a virtual keyboard by Alpelopa · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Whether or not the example the writer cites has been mentioned before, I think his comment should be modded up as interesting because it is a reminder that the main barrier to shrinking general purpose computing devices is I/O to the user.

      Both aspects (I and O) are close to being solved of late. For example, a virtual keyboard could also take the form of a virtual tablet and combine with voice and/or handwriting recognition for a sort of hybrid application interface. Whether or not you like that particular suggestion, it would seem that potential improvements to the current (physical) thumb keyboard and tiny screen for small devices abound.

    2. Re:Combine this with a virtual keyboard by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Nice, but then again, think of all the cosplayers dressed up as little Washuuu and using them in public!

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  25. What is "infinite focus"? by hubie · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Infinite focus to me sounds like a collimator. Does this mean that you need another lens somewhere to form the image?

    1. Re:What is "infinite focus"? by ivan256 · · Score: 2, Informative

      That makes sense to me if there are 2048x1280 laser sources, i.e., one for each pixel.

      No need. Think about how a CRT works. You aim the laser at each of those pixels for a fraction of a second, scanning the entire surface, and repeat fast enough for it to look to your eye like all the pixels are lit at once. In theory... But then there's more to it, which brings us to:

      how do you get around the diffraction problem where the light from one pixel gets spread out over the other pixels?

      From their release, it sounds like they have some dynamic "holographic" film that allows the beam, which is larger than a single pixel, to be filtered such that it displays multiple pixels within the beam, all while remaining cohesive. Think like the little lenses that they have to cover the ends of cheapy laser pointers, but can be changed on the fly with electronics.

      Even a nice, collimated laser beam gives you a narrow waist only in a certain region, then spreads out from there.

      That's why you have to put "infinite" in quotes. It would be infinite in a vacuum, in real life in an atmosphere it will actually only be in focus from zero to the point where diffusion due to the medium the beam is passing through becomes too great. It's still infinite in that there are an infinite number of distances within the finite range, but it's not infinite in that it'll still be in focus some rediculous distance away from the projector.

  26. Re: Screens have rights, too ;-) by D4C5CE · · Score: 3, Funny
    Having a projector that size would make it so much easier to view all your converted, downloaded, mega-shrinked videos on the back of the student in front of you.
    Just be sure to limit the brightness and keep the image moving to prevent burn-in on that poor guy... for most self-respecting technology companies (outside Redmond at least, but maybe even they run Linux in private) probably wouldn't want to recruit anyone with a Windows desktop and Start bar tattooed on his back! ;-/ What is more, nobody likes to hear yells of "Alt-F4" on the beach or [censored] anywhere else...
  27. What about the "sparkle" or "dazzle" effect? by Goldenhawk · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If this device uses a laser to project its image, it makes me concerned about the dazzle or sparkle you see when looking at a truly monochromatic, coherent point of light. Shine a laser pointer at the wall, and it looks like the dot sparkles. I believe this is a function of the coherency of the light plus the way our eyes perceive the light.

    I have a hard time imagining watching an entire wall full of sparkle effect across the entire picture. Do they somehow make the light non-coherent, so your eye doesn't have this problem?

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    1. Re:What about the "sparkle" or "dazzle" effect? by dozer · · Score: 2, Informative

      It's called "laser speckle". It shows up when a coherent beam is held fairly stationary on an irregular surface. I imagine that if the beam is scanning fast, it won't be much of a problem because the specks will be too brief for your eye to see. POV will take care of the problem. But, of course, I haven't actually tried this myself.

  28. light sources by kent_eh · · Score: 2, Interesting
    The lamps have very exotic materials in them, like very very pure tungsten and specially manufactured quartz casings.


    So, then, do they have to use such high-priced light sources? The lamps for old-school overhead projectors or slide projectors are well under $50.

    Is there some inherent requirement in projecting a digital image that requires so much more lamp, versus projecting a film/transparency/analog source?

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    1. Re:light sources by spinozaq · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Old school projector bulbs do get bright enough do use with modern projectors. There are still two problems with them though. First, the light is not white at all, it tends a lot toward yellow, which is unacceptable for a color projection. Second, to deliver that much light, they draw anywhere from 600-900 watts. That hurts in two ways, heat, which puts a strain on size and cooling methods. People don't want that much noise in their living room. It also cuts into the only advantage, which is cost. 600 watts vs 200 watts will cost an extra $180 in electricity over 3000 hours at .15 cents per KiloWatt Hour. So there really is no advantage at all. They are the best technology for the purpose. Don't you think if there was something better in an up and comming market like this someone would be selling it? The world is not out to get you.

  29. How does this box work? by Thagg · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I can find little information on the companies website. They claim that it has "no moving parts", and that it uses "Computer Generated Holograms" and that it uses some kind of micropixel display.

    They say that because they can focus the laser so well, the computer generated hologram can be very small.

    They say that the system works by "steering light" instead of blocking it (an LCD array blocks light to modulate it).

    Anyway, none of this tells me very much. Are they using a piezoelectric mirror to scan a laser across a hologram, that bends the light to scan the image? Are they using a 1D mirror or LED array and then scanning that with a piezoelectric mirror/hologram? I assume that a piezoelectric mirror moves so little and so robustly that it's not considered a "moving part".

    What is the particular brand of magic that these people are using?

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  30. Dang laws of science again! Article BS by Ancient_Hacker · · Score: 2, Insightful
    "It uses 350 mw."

    Three Hundred Fifty Milliwatts is 0.35 of one Watt. Most lasers are under 50% efficient. The deflection and modulation and optics are unlikely to be more than 50% efficient.

    So imagine spreading 0.090 watts of light over a screen-sized area. Pretty dang dim! Like you'll need dark adapted eyes to even see the picture.

    Still a neat device, but you're not going to run your own Drive-in movie theater with it.

  31. Re:News From The Past:Similar Projector in Full Co by Overzeetop · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's even smaller at the size of "2 sugar cubes".


    Damned europeans and their metric units. Hrumph.

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  32. Roadrunner is more like it by MisterSquid · · Score: 3, Informative

    Use this to project a fake doorway onto walls and watch your victims slam into walls, ala Bugs Bunny.

    Bugs Bunny cartoons do not feature advanced technology whereas Roadrunner cartoons do. So what really would happen is that you would project a fake doorway onto the wall, your intended victim would walk up to the wall, open the door, walk through the doorway and close the door behind. Astounded, you'd run to the door only to slam into the brick wall, a la Wile E. Coyote.

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  33. Re:About time! (This is close to what you want) by ttroutma · · Score: 2, Interesting

    http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.aspx?EDC= 895872

              250 lux
              1 lbs.
              SVGA

    Introducing a portable projector so small, it can fit in the palm of your hand. Weighing about a single pound, this portable battery operated DLP (TM) projector supports native 800x600 SVGA resolution, and is powered by a sequential LED light source with support for RCA video, S-video and VGA inputs.

    - Unbeatable convenience through extreme portability in both size and weight

    - Long life-lamp, with quick-on, quick-off, no warm up period

    - A projector at practically the cost of less than two regular projector lamp

    - Can be battery operated

    Included Accessories:

    Protective slip cover.

  34. Re:Yes, Really by everphilski · · Score: 3, Informative

    You didn't read the spec sheet. The brightness at 15" is 200 candela - aproximately the brightness of a LCD screen. The brightness at 7" - half the distance - is 880 candela. Now do a curvefit and tell me how bright it is going to be at a comfortable viewing distance - 120"++ for a home theater (~50 candela). (answer: not very.)

  35. Re:Yes, Really by ceoyoyo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Let's do the math. The screen is 15" diagonal (NOT 15" viewing distance). At an aspect ratio of 16:9 that's a screen that's about 13"x7" (I'm using exact values in the calculations). So, calculating area and switching to sane units, that's a display area of 0.062 m^2. If this thing does 200 cd/m^2 at that distance then it's putting out a total of 12.4 cd, at a power consumption of between 0.35W and 1.4W.

    Now, let's say we want a 64" flat panel display. At 16:9 that would be about 55"x31", or an area of 1.13 m^2. Our little projector will only do about 11 cd/m^2 on that. Not good.

    BUT... if the technology can be scaled to higher powers:

    to get back to our 200 cd/m^2 for the big screen experience we need about 18 times more power. That is, between 6.4W and 25W, assuming no extra losses when scaling up.

    Just for fun, I checked out home theatre projectors. I found one at 750 lumens, another at 1200. Let's say 1000. That's 25 candela. SO, to get equal performance to the standard projector we need to put out twice what we are. We might expect a power drain of 700 mW - 2.8 W. Not bad!

    Surely they can make this thing put out twice as much light as it does... in fact, we might expect the full colour version to put out three times as much light, which (unless I made a mistake) should make it brighter than most home theatre projectors. Presumably they can do that in something that's not much bigger than, say, a cell phone. Provided this thing works, it should be pretty cool.