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Toxic Toads Taking Over Australia

An anonymous reader writes "Yahoo News is reporting that toxic toads imported from Hawaii to help control the beetle population that was ravaging Australia's sugar cane crops have instead become pests themselves. From the article: 'The toads can grow as large as dinner plates and weigh up to 4.5 pounds. Their heads and backsides are studded with rows of warts that secrete a milky white toxin called bufotoxin. Because Australia has no native toads, many native predators such as snakes, lizards and mammals are very sensitive to the toxin. So when the toads spread, they immediately kill off many of the region's top predators.'"

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  1. Terrible Summary by TripMaster+Monkey · · Score: 5, Insightful

    From TFA:
    Cane toads (Bufo marinus) were first brought in from Hawaii in 1935 to control the spread of beetles that were ravaging Australia's sugar cane crop.
    Cane toads have been a problem in Australia for a very long time now....this is hardly news.

    So why is this a news story? From the TITLE of TFA:
    Toxic Toads Evolve Long Legs and Take Over Australia
    And from TFA:
    When the toads arrived, the researchers found that those in the vanguard of the invasion had legs that were up to 6 percent longer than average; shorter-legged stragglers followed. The study showed that newer populations of toads tended to have longer legs than those in long-established populations.
    This is the actual 'news', not the summary's title. Given the FIRST sentence from TFA:
    Toxic toads bound across the northern tropics of Australia faster than ever, thanks to the evolution of longer legs in the few short decades since humans introduced them to their own little paradise.
    ...it's bewildering how the submitter could have misinterpreted the article so badly, and mystifying how the editor failed completely to catch the misinterpretation.

    It's a shame that such an interesting story is derailed like this before it even gets started...the editors really do need to start reading submissions.
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    1. Re:Terrible Summary by ceejayoz · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And that, my friends, is a beautiful first post. :-p

    2. Re:Terrible Summary by ZipR · · Score: 5, Funny

      What do they mean 'evolved'? I think that several school boards across the country will agree with me when I say that the toads did not evolve, they were 'improved' by a 'designer.'

    3. Re:Terrible Summary by MyLongNickName · · Score: 3, Informative

      No. Not really.

      Nearly no intelligent designer writes off evolution. They write off evolution being able to produce entirely new species altogether.

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    4. Re:Terrible Summary by WankersRevenge · · Score: 4, Funny
    5. Re:Terrible Summary by Belseth · · Score: 4, Funny
      What do they mean 'evolved'? I think that several school boards across the country will agree with me when I say that the toads did not evolve, they were 'improved' by a 'designer.'

      I'd like to take the opposite stance. Have you ever seen a Kane Toad? Anything that butte ugly couldn't have been Intellegently Designed so in fact proves the nonexistence of God! Wait a minute, God must be taken on faith. So if something so incredibly ugly exists then it must prove the nonexistence of God because to assume it must have been designed to rely on faith to prove God's existence then it proves God does not in fact exist. I was worried there for a moment. If anyone has any questions I'll be standing next to the Zebra Crossing sign.

    6. Re:Terrible Summary by mikael · · Score: 4, Funny

      ...and 'belseth' disappears in a puff of logic...

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    7. Re:Terrible Summary by catwh0re · · Score: 3, Funny
      Here in Australia we've just discovered the Internet, so we're posting all our latest news articles from the 1930's to the Internet.

      Next week's lead article "Australia goes to battle against EVIL Nazis!", then in a few years time we'll post the article "Dingo eats baby in outback Australia."

    8. Re:Terrible Summary by e4g4 · · Score: 3, Informative

      For those interested in what this article claimed to be about (from the post), might I suggest a few people with a sense of humor, a case of beer, and this.

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  2. Cane Toad documentary by nizo · · Score: 5, Informative

    Cane Toads is a great documentary about these little beasties. Not only does it give a good overview of the cane toad saga in Australia, but it also includes interviews with some really bizarre people (the guy imitating the mating calls of the cane toad is particularly amusing).

  3. Simpsons quote by AuMatar · · Score: 5, Funny

    Skinner: Well, I was wrong. The lizards are a godsend.

    Lisa: But isn't that a bit short-sighted? What happens when we're overrun by lizards?

    Skinner: No problem. We simply release wave after wave of Chinese needle snakes. They'll wipe out the lizards.

    Lisa: But aren't the snakes even worse?

    Skinner: Yes, but we're prepared for that. We've lined up a fabulous type of gorilla that thrives on snake meat.

    Lisa: But then we're stuck with gorillas! Skinner: No, that's the beautiful part. When wintertime rolls around, the gorillas simply freeze to death.

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    1. Re:Simpsons quote by irtza · · Score: 4, Informative

      I first lernt about this from the simpsons

      Homer: Hey, look! Those frogs are eating all their crops.

      from Bart vs. Australia

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    2. Re:Simpsons quote by Gadgetfreak · · Score: 3, Funny

      The first thing I thought about when I saw the headline of the article was that Simpsons episode. The better quote, though, is

      Owner: [sweeping a bunch of toads out] Get out, get out! Shoo, shoo.
                    Get out of here, yuck! These bloody things are everywhere.
                    They're in the lift, in the lorry, in the bond wizard, and all
                    over the malonga gilderchuck.
      Clerk: They're like kangaroos, but they're reptiles, they is.
      Marge: We have them in America. They're called bullfrogs.
      Clerk: What? That's an odd name. I'd have called them "chazzwazzers".

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  4. Re:Why always Australia? by Gavin+Scott · · Score: 3, Funny

    Rabbits, toads, etc. Why is it always Australia that has these problems?

    Because Tokyo finally learned to cover these things up :-)

    G.

  5. This is news? by cammoblammo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I haven't RTFA yet, but this isn't exactly news Down Here--Cane toads have been pests for years, at least in the tropical north.

    The big news is that they are {evolving|being noodly appendaged} to be able to travel further (they're spreading at a rate of up to 60 km/year as opposed to 10 km/yr when they were introduced) and they are adapting to colder climates.

    Apart from their utility in practicing my golf swing, this is quite scary stuff for those of us here in the south.

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    1. Re:This is news? by jdb8167 · · Score: 3, Funny
      The article might not be news but this is an old Usenet News classic:

      Death of a Cane Toad

  6. Re:And in recent news ... by aussie_a · · Score: 3, Funny

    I can't wait to hear about World War 2 beginning in 4 years time.

  7. Re:Why always Australia? by nizo · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Rabbits, toads, etc. Why is it always Australia that has these problems?


    Probably because the local flora and fauna that has been seperated from the rest of the world for so long that it can't compete with every critter/plant that some moron brings in from somewhere else. Though there are certainly plenty of other critters introduced elsewhere that cause problems like this.

  8. Evolution? by Black+Parrot · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Wouldn't those in the vanguard have longer legs because those with longer legs put them in the vanguard?

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    1. Re:Evolution? by krayzkrok · · Score: 5, Interesting
      That is actually a highly relevant point. We do know that toads on the vanguard are significantly larger than those in established populations, and it may have nothing to do with evolution but rather a lot to do with population dynamics.

      The toads to first colonise an area will of course be the fittest, fastest toads; these are individuals that have eaten the most, grown the best, and able to move longer distances more quickly in search of new feeding areas. The motivation to move comes from competition in existing areas, and an abundance of "resources" (ie. food, space) in uncolonised areas. Less fit competitors take longer to move into new feeding areas because they are less able to do so. As far as the toads in the "older" established populations in Queensland go, they reached carrying capacity in the environment decades ago so there are no new areas to colonise, no abudant resources to lead to monsterous toads, and generally a much smaller average size given their short generation time.

      I have not read Ben's paper yet so I'm not sure whether the claims of evolution are simply media spin, but I know enough about toad population dynamics (I research toad impacts on native species) to question the assumptions made in TFA. Without knowing more about the research, the conclusions seem to be explainable through standard population models.

  9. In other news... by QuantumG · · Score: 5, Funny

    Militants have taken over Russia! Calling themselves "Bolshivics" a group of Marxist seperatists, led by the charismatic "Lenin", recently siezed control of the city of Petrograd and fighting has spread to every other major city. Fighting in Moscow lasted about a week but has been relatively bloodless, not interrupting the opera or the ballet. Theaters, schools and government offices are still functioning but Bolshivic dominance of the Duma now seems assured.

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  10. Re:-=M-O-D Parent D-O-W-N Please=- by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 4, Funny

    What a gay attempt at FP'ing. +5 just because you can cut and paste? Give me a break. But these people are the ones who get the modpoints.

    Good Sir, know that you speak of TripMasterMonkey, whose karma whoring has passed into legend, even on these most whore filled of boards.

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  11. Exactly Where: by slashbob22 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Tazmania is an Island State to the south of Australia.

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  12. Real story is the Ravens by Alcimedes · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Last I'd heard nothing was eating these toads.

    Nothing that is except a small population of Ravens that learned that if you flip the toads over, the bellys have no poison. As soon as one figured this out, others started to copy the behavior. Now ravens are disembowling these toads all over the place.

    Now that is cool.

    1. Re:Real story is the Ravens by robbak · · Score: 5, Informative

      Actually, several native species are beginning to target the Cane Toad.

      Ric Nattrass, in his Wildlife Talkback radio segment (search on abc.net.au for more), often recieves reports about various birds and other animals beginning to eat toads.

      Personally, we have native White-Tailed Rats that catch toads in our pond, and eat their insides, leaving a neatly-cleaned skin and skeletal parts behind.

      So, although all is not lost, it takes some time, and many species are wiped out before they work out either how to eat them or to leave them alone. When they reach Kakadoo, it is going to be a disaster, but no one has any way to prevent it.

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    2. Re:Real story is the Ravens by geekoid · · Score: 4, Funny

      "it is going to be a disaster, but no one has any way to prevent it."

      Four words:
      "National Toad Wacking Month"

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    3. Re:Real story is the Ravens by GaryPatterson · · Score: 5, Informative

      Sounds good, but these things are *tough*

      I've seen one hit with a golf club, fly a fair distance and smack into a tree only to crawl off. They have been run over by cars and survived.

      A whacking day won't kill them. A *chopping* day might.

  13. Re:Why always Australia? by Kelson · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The Hawaiian islands gets hit almost as badly as Australia. Sometimes it's accidental introduction -- there's a frog species overrunning some areas and causing serious noise pollution with their croaking -- and sometimes it's deliberate but misguided. People introduced the mongoose to control the rat population. Not only did they not take care of the rats (they forgot to take into account different nesting habits and day/night cycle), but they proceeded to infest the islands themselves.

    Like Australia, Hawaii is geographically isolated. Species thrive without competition, but when a more competitive species arrives, it has an easy time taking over.

    On the other hand, Australia has been isolated for a lot longer than Hawaii has existed, so while Hawaii is populated by successive waves of immigrating species going back thousands of years, Australia's got millions of years' worth of native species that haven't had to deal much with foreigners until a few hundred years ago.

  14. Humane Killing by StArSkY · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The damn cane toads are always in the news here.

    The current huge argument is over whether it is human to beat them to death with Golf clubs.

    Seriously, a NT minister suggested that golf clubs worked great, and lots of animal liberationists lost it, and suggested the only humane way was to put something on their back (can't remember what, put them in a plastic bag and then freeze them to death.

    Hello people, this Toad is destroying our Native wildlife and you are worried about cruelty ????

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  15. As a canetoad myself... by PigIronBob · · Score: 4, Informative

    Coming from Brisbane (capital of Queensland), I am referred to as a 'Cane Toad' as are all Queenslanders, a slightly better nickname than our southern brothers from New South Wales who have the 'Cockroaches' predicate, Victorians are known as 'VWs' (Victorian Wankers). There is only 1 known predator that can handle the Cane toad and that is the native Crow, it has learned (clever little buggar) to flick the toad on its back and go for the belly, thereby avoiding the poison glands on the back, I would be tempted to say 'Go the Crows', but I'm from Brisbane, not Adelaide ;)

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  16. Re:Why always Australia? by Coryoth · · Score: 3, Informative

    Indeed, it's not like Australia has a shortage of lethal animals. In practice its largely because Australia has been fairly successfully isolated for a long time and the flora and fauna smply aren't adapted to deal with the introduced species. You'll find exactly the same sorts of problems in New Zealand, and, in fact, in the US if you introduce the wrong species.

    Jedidiah.

  17. Genetic self-destruct button by Peaker · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Wouldn't it be a good idea to encode genetic weaknesses into creatures you are going to spread in such an environment, so that you can get rid of them in case they cause too much trouble?

    I am not sure about the exact implementation of this, but perhaps reducing resistability to some otherwise harmless disease, or increasing sensitivity to a type of poison...

    Any biology experts to comment on the idea?

  18. Re:-=M-O-D Parent D-O-W-N Please=- by macdaddy357 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Don't use the word, "gay" to mean bad. That's so retarded.

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  19. Re:Not News, This is a Decades-Old Problem by RedWizzard · · Score: 3, Informative
    This is not news, the toads were brought over here in the 1930s. information, yes. news, no.

    I didn't bother to read the article,

    If you had of RTFA you'd know that the news here is that the cane toads are evolving longer legs.
  20. Re:-=M-O-D Parent D-O-W-N Please=- by ShaneThePain · · Score: 5, Funny

    Don't use the word "Retarded" to mean bad. Thats so gay.

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  21. post text by Brewdles · · Score: 4, Informative

    (Damn the lameness filter!)

    First, an introduction.

    Cane Toads (Bufos Marinas?) are an obnoxious, brown, warty type of frog (OK, toad) that inhabit vast areas of Australia. Their introduction and proliferation in Australia is a classic example of ecology gone wrong. In the beginning, there were no cane toads in Australia. Sugar cane was introduced to its fair shores, along with the sugar cane came the cane beetle, a nasty, brown insect about 3/4 inch long.

    "How do we stop the cane beetle," ask the scientists, "the little fuckers are eating all our sugar cane."

    "Ahhh," says someone clever, "Why not look around the world to see what eats cane beetles, then introduce them into Australia and the problemo is solved!"

    Wrong.

    They found a natural predator in the cane toad, which came from Hawaii of all places. In 1935, 55 pairs (as in 110) cane toads were released in the small North Queensland town of Gordonvale. Unfortunately, Australia did not have any predators that liked to eat the toads, probably due to the poison glands on the back of their neck. Similarly, the cane toads found that there was much more interesting and tasty stuff to eat than boring old cane beetles.

    The result was a plague of biblical proportions.

    As a consequence, every man, woman and child living north of Sydney has grown up knowing the extreme pleasure of killing cane toads. Motorists swerve to hit them, cricketers hoist them for a six (equivalent of home run for you 'Merkins) over the boundary, weekend gardeners chase them down with a lawn mower.

    The following, is some of the many varied ways I have dispatched these nasty little buggers while I lived in Queensland. Perhaps some other Aussies can add to the list, what about you Hawaiians out there?

    THE THONG SLAP (TS)
    The Thong Slap (TS) is not fatal to a cane toad, but is an important component of many of the other means of disposal. To perform a TS, one quickly removes their thong (rubber, sandal-like footwear) and slaps a toad hard on the head. This stuns the toad and stops it from hopping all over the place.

    DEATH BY CLUBBING
    #1) Take golf clubs out into the back yard, usually only a 2-wood, 6-iron and 9-iron. Find a toad and dispatch with club of your choice. If the toad is sitting upright, use the driver. Extra points are
    awarded for lofted shots over the house and on to the street. Hitting a "slice" tends to result in separate pieces of toad.
    #2) Take a field hockey stick and dispatch as above. Remember not to raise the head of the stick above shoulder height, otherwise a penalty may ensue.
    #3) Using a cricket stump, first smash the toad with the blunt end, then reverse the stump and impale it with the pointed end. Shake the toad off the pointed end and repeat if necessary.

    DEATH BY GARDEN TOOL
    A special class devoted to common garden tools. Favorite tools are the shovel (hit with flat side, then chop up with blade), the mattock (chopping only), the pitch fork (see how many you can collect) and the
    axe (slice and dice).

    DEATH BY SPORTING EQUIPMENT
    Another special class, covering those instruments not involved with clubbing. Some nice effects can be gained with tennis rackets (small toads only - great for perfecting that two-handed backhand), darts
    (nothing like a moving bullseye) and football boots.

    DEATH BY SLICING AND CHOPPING
    #1) Take you mother's best carving knife outside and see if you *really* can throw it like a Bowie knife.
    #2) After performing a TS, flip the toad over and use an Xacto knife to practice your vivisection techniques. See how much you can remove and still get the toad to hop away.
    #3) Perform TS, throw toad into the air and try to hit with a machete. More points are awarded if the pieces are equal in size.

    DEATH BY SQUASHING
    #1) One of my all-time faves: Perform a TS, then throw the toad out onto a bust street. Bet with friends how many cars will miss it before it goes POP.
    #2) Go to the local cricket field late

  22. We tried that already... by BiggerBoat · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...on Isla Nublar with the Lysine Contingency. Didn't work out too well.