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Graffiti Game Banned in Australia

afaik_ianal writes "The Sydney Morning Herald is reporting that 'Getting Up: Contents Under Pressure' has been banned in Australia. The game involves battling the authorities to overthrow corrupt officials using only street fighting skills and graffiti. From the article, "The decision was endorsed last night by the Federal Attorney-General, Philip Ruddock, who had asked the board to review of the game's MA15+ classification after local councils and state governments voiced concerns that the game would promote graffiti.""

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  1. More Stupid Censorship and Irony by ami-in-hamburg · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Again, another government stepping in where parents and society in general should be the authority.

    Isn't it ironic though that the point of the game is to fight government corruption and promote freedom of expression.

    1. Re:More Stupid Censorship and Irony by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      America's such a good example.

      Actually, America is a perfect example.

      The more they regulate and litigate the worse things get here.

      There is a correlation, wether the totalitarians want to admit it or not.

      Politicians have absolutely NO RIGHT nor should they have the power to tell the population what is right or moral for what sould be completely obvious reasons to anyone smarter than the average barnyard monkey.

    2. Re:More Stupid Censorship and Irony by Crizp · · Score: 4, Insightful
      [...] when we "try" to emulate the real world so that the breaking of the law is very close, as society, we need to step in a stop this. It sends the wrong message.

      Mr. Thompson? Jack? Is that you?

      You can have your cute games with their colored walls. I think what the "realistic" games do is allow an outlet for things that should not be let out in public. Like killing people, or walking around randomly pissing on folks. It's safer to do it in-game, and you also avoid running into petty quarrels with those law enforcement people.

      I support the idea that the parents are ultimately responsible for what input their kids recieve in the fragile little minds of theirs. There will always be people doing bad things because - well, they do bad things. The reasons are many and complicated, but games (as TV before them) are not the one and only cause of this. A catalyst, perhaps, not the reason.

    3. Re:More Stupid Censorship and Irony by lxs · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Isn't it ironic though that the point of the game is to fight government corruption and promote freedom of expression.

      No, it's standard practice in political censorship to attack some side issue and not the political message. For instance, Ulysses was written by an Irishman and criticised British rule over Ireland.

      Ulysses was banned for obscenity rather than for it's political content even though the so called obscene content was tame even for the time in which it was written. The same case can be made for the film of A Clockwork Orange, which I believe is still banned in the UK.

    4. Re:More Stupid Censorship and Irony by Lisandro · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Oh, so we should allow anything inappropriate like drugs and guns to be freely allowed - like that works! Perhaps we should allow porn of all types to be available in public libraries, because clearly most parents do the "right thing" and educate their kids... what a joke, what world do you live in?

          Guns and porn are freely allowed, just not to a kid. You need a licence for a gun - you can even carry them arround in the street if you have a permit. Porn is allowed to everyone who's legally old enough.
          I also had this discussion with a friend a while ago about if drugs should be legalized, like alcohol is - i think that marijuana should be legalized, but he made a pretty good case about how every single drug should be legalized, which is a longer story in itself. Even then, alcohol, tobbaco and some medicaments ARE drugs and you can get them, again, if you're old enough.

          Eventually it's up to the parents to decide what's sutiable for their children to see. See, kids are NOT the only one playing games. And we have a rating system already to determine which games can and which ones can't be sold to a kid. Banning it was completely unnecesary. The game doesn't encourage vandalism more than GTA encourages stealing cars, Hollywood action movies encourage shooting people and religious TV shows encourage catholicism.

  2. They have now guaranteed it will be a hit! by dustpuppy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think we have long gone past the point were censorship of this nature will have any effect. What with bittorrent and other P2P networks, people will still be able to obtain copies. And by making such a big deal of it, all the authorities have done is made it into the latest 'must have' computer game.

    And I would love to read their position paper (which will apparently get relaeased) soon that explains the majority and minority positions. I cannot understand how they feel that they should ban this game and yet allow violent movies to not be banned.

  3. Who else feels... by Vo0k · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...that they were concerned the game would promote THE OTHER aspect of the gameplay?

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  4. Grafitti vs beating people up... by supertsaar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So Spraying a tag on a wall is worse than the old knee-to-the-solar-plexus move? Chigago-Curb-Job? Columbian Necktie?
    That makes me very sad. We teach our kids that violence is cool, acceptable, exciting, fun.
    Then we complain about all the violence in the streets.
    If you want to ban a game, please ban it for excessive violence, not for some paint sprayed on walls.

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  5. Re:GREAT! by strider44 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No you don't, at least not in Sydney. Anyway I don't see how something like this *really* actually fuels graffiti. I'm one of those people who thinks that GTA doesn't fuel people going around shooting everybody, and like the designer said, it's not that hard to draw on a wall, and if a kid wants to do it he doesn't need a game to show him how.

    Quoth the Simpsons:


    Meyers: I did a little research and I discovered a startling thing...
    There was violence in the past, long before cartoons were invented.
    Kent: I see. Fascinating.
    Meyers: Yeah, and know something, Kent? The Crusades, for instance.
    Tremendous violence, many people killed, the darned thing went
    on for thirty years.
    Kent: And this was before cartoons were invented?
    Meyers: That's right, Kent.

  6. It used to be Music by CB-in-Tokyo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It used to be music that everyone said was a bad influence, now it is Video games.

    I love the following Frank Zappa quotation.

    "There are more love songs than anything else. If songs could make you do
    something we'd all love one another."
    -- Frank Zappa

    Not exactly the same, but close enough if we replace love songs with first person shooters and....

    Nevermind

    1. Re:It used to be Music by Prune · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I call bullshit. Love songs are usually about lust and romantic love, not loving your fellow human beings in general.

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  7. Jet Set Radio by nkh · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Was Jet Set Radio banned in Australia?

  8. Riiight ..... by ajs318 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What they have basically done, then, is turned this game into an instant automatic hit. Everybody in Australia will want a copy of this game now, because it's illegal. And they will get copies of it. Either paid-up ones, sent in an innocuous music CD box by friends or relatives abroad; or, much more likely, pirated copies. {Does anybody actually pay for games? I suppose there must be one or two.} Everybody outside Australia will want a copy because it's been banned in Australia.

    All things considered, this is a fantastic marketing stunt.

    My proposed solution, by the way, is to ban all sales of video games to {but not possession by} minors. That way, parents and guardians get to decide what is and isn't appropriate.

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  9. Re:Wow by tpgp · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So it's ok to "promote" shooting people, running people down and using / abusing prostitutes (GTA and plenty of others)but it's not ok to "promote" tagging a wall.

    GTA was banned in Australia too

    Hmmmm we have a very weird society.

    I'm not sure whether you're talking about the USA or Australia - you seem a little confused. (but yes, they're both quite weird)

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  10. Stupid logic by Neo-Rio-101 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In Japan, no game really gets publically banned for being violent or degrading (other than the pubes-mosiac thing), but then there is little violence in society and next to no graffiti. There is no fear of violence ever influencing anybody.

    The logic goes that maybe if there was less graffiti and less violence in Australia, then we could have violent games and nobody would care about any influence.

    Seems to me that the outside world influences video games more than the other way around.

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