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4th BC Century Defensive Wall Unearthed

An anonymous reader writes "Yahoo News is reporting that Greek archaeologists have discovered a 2,600 meter defensive wall whose design was 'inspired by Alexander the Great.' In addition to the wall itself 4th-century BC bronze coins were also found inside the structure. From the article: 'The discovery was made in the archaeological site of Dion, an ancient fortified city and key religious sanctuary of the Macedonian civilization, which ruled much of Greece until Roman times.'"

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  1. Strange wall design puzzles archaeologists by Yahweh+Doesn't+Exist · · Score: 5, Funny

    the wall seems to head in a straight line towards a neighbouring enemy city. periodically there are areas where sand seems to be turned to glass by large electric discharges. documents from the area refer to multiple "hands of Zeus", "wall whoring" and "gay lamer noob faggots".

  2. News for Nerds? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Does this wall protect against trojans? Did they close any unnecessary services and make sure it was well patched at all times? What was it protecting, an abacus? So many questions...

  3. Re:"Macedonian civilization" by CRCulver · · Score: 5, Informative

    I knew it was only a matter of time until someone came with the Greek nationalist view. Too bad that no one outside of Greece cares. Yes, Alexander and his father spoke Greek, but the simple fact of the matter is that only the upper crust of Macedonia was educated in the Greek language. The peons spoke only their local vernacular, an Indo-European language too far removed from Greek for mutual intelligibility. Archaeological evidence shows that Macedonia had its own pottery and jewelry traditions which were different than those of Greece, so the culture was not Greek. Saying that Macedonia was a part of the Greek nation is like calling present-day India part of England just because the upper classes there speak English.

  4. Re:But can you run Linux on it? by ChunderDownunder · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Because Slashdot is "News for Nerds", not "News for Linux Geeks".

    Myself included, many nerds have an interest in classical civilisations stretching back to their studies of Latin at school.

  5. Meanwhile, on the Greek island of Crete by imrdkl · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Archeologists working in Aptera, a walled fortress city on the island of Crete, have recently announced the discovery of a very unusual, and very intact, tomb just outside the city. I visited Crete last year and took some pictures at the site - some pretty amazing detail. Then there's the hitchhiker who found and returned a 6500 y.o. gold pendant to the Greek authorities recently, she wanted no reward, and preferred to remain anonymous...

    I couldnt think of anything funny to say about this new wall, so I figured I'd post something serious.

  6. Re:Alexander the great by luvirini · · Score: 5, Informative
    Actually the two great conquerors are more like: Alexander the Great and Genghis Khan.

    People like Napoleon or Hitler get a lot of style points reduced because of the short time(historically speaking) it took to beat them.

  7. Interesting stories. by jd · · Score: 5, Insightful
    On the one hand, one must question the sanity of a person who hands in a large (for the time) solid gold, 6,500 year old artifact. Especially in a country well-known for artifacts being plundered. In England, the Government pays for finds classed as "Treasure Trove", but there is no evidence the unnamed woman got so much as a free can of soft drink for a find that will likely end up in a museum and earn the archaeological team involved in analyzing the find a good few million.

    On the other hand, it is precisely because there are people who do hand in such amazing discoveries that so much is known about the ancient world. There are many sites, throughout Europe, which were discovered precisely because of a reported find leading to a study and finally an excavation.

    I have often been critical of archaeologists, and the current state of Italy's archaeological remains doesn't give me much confidence in the competence of world heritage organizations either. Many of the major sites are at the point of collapse, one section of wall at a major site DID collapse last year and would have killed a few hundred tourists if it had happened during the day. Emergency repairs, required within the next year or two, will require between ten to twenty times the money budgetted for ALL Itallian archaeology and maintenance for the next decade, simply in order to prevent massive casualties.

    Discoveries are of the utmost importance, proper excavation and documentation are vital, but all of that is useless if proper preservation of finds is ignored. The exceptionally fine ancient monument returned from Italy - a massive obelisk that had been plundered during World War II and was in exceptionally good condition, was smashed into three pieces in order to return it on the cheap. If this is the way things are going to happen in future, the Rosetta Stone will be returned to Egypt as a fine powder - the Egyptians can always glue the grains together again, after all.

    Sorry if I sound cynical - well, maybe not entirely sorry. I have a very hard time reconciling demonstrable gross incompetence and money hoarding with any kind of respect for heritage or history. As I've said often enough before, we have many possible futures. Futures are a dime a dozen. We can take our pick of those. However, we only ever have one past. Lose that, and it's gone. You don't get another go. Whatever is destroyed is lost and can never be replaced.

    Hey, for some things, that probably doesn't matter too much, and there's just too much history to preserve everything 100% from the information level through to the artifacts themselves. The world is only so big and we're running out of room as it is. Besides which, it is really the information that matters anyway, provided you have gathered as much as is practical and lose as little as possible.

    In the "perfect world" (at least, perfect in my highly opinionated world view) no effort would be spared to gather all the information that technology can extract, with that information distributed as widely and as freely as the available technology supports. After that, artifacts become relatively unimportant and sites become more useful for tourism than for study. Provided they don't fall down.

    I'm not seeing that kind of study going on, though. The new burial site that has been found, for example - there should be plenty of DNA and mDNA that can be extracted for testing to get an idea of the ethnic makeup of the people of the time. They could even put the mDNA markers up on one of the numerous DNA family history sites, to see if living relatives exist and to encourage a greater participation by average folk in the whole archaeology thing. People will be far more willing to invest a little extra time and money on a project if they feel involved - even if only highly superficially - than they will if it is purely seen as the idle musings of some University types with a trowel fetish.

    The pendant is another good example. Gold i

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