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RSS, flickr and del.icio.us on a Mobile Phone
Roger Whittaker writes to tell us Engadget reports that Mobileglu is offering an interesting new service that gives users the ability to read RSS feeds, flickr, del.icio.us, and other sources of content in a mobile friendly format. Think this will lead to smarter content developers making their own sites more mobile friendly, or just a few lawsuits?
Think this will lead to smarter content developers making their own sites more mobile friendly, or just a few lawsuits?
Most likely these content providers will sit and see what comes out of this.
If it isn't popular, MobileGLU will die out itself; If it's popular, these content providers will invite MobileGLU to pay up, or file an injunction to shut it down while they start providing the service themselves.
Not many company can manage to live off someone else's content for free, the one that stands out is obviously the Beast, which is also constantly under attack by content providers.
To be successful, MobileGLU really needs to hit the market hard and fast, that is to make sure these content providers need its service more than it needs their content.
Virtual Betting on Facebook for non-geeks.
"Opera Mobile browser lets you surf the full Web on your mobile phone. And when we say "the full Web," we really mean the *full* Web. Equipped with Opera's Small-Screen Rendering technology, the Opera Mobile browser lets you access any site on the Internet, just like you do on your computer."
This is kind of like Mobile RSS.
The Television Wiki
frankly speaking, it is excellent. try to beat that.
1. create bloglines account, subscribe to couple of feeds.
2. swithch to mobile version
http://bloglines.com/mobile
3. read all your news in a friendly format (I mostly use it behind my PC as it is just so simple)
http://bloglines.com/myblogs_subs
Ahhh... Flikr on my mobile... I wonder if Tim Berners-Lee still weeps from time to time or he has just become so jaded he doesn't care.
/no pictures of wenk because this ain't fark.
//hey... no slashies either!!!
///darnit, where'd I put my owl?
Try Novarra's nWeb, its better than all others in rendering mobile content on the cell phones. http://www.novarra.com/
sixth post
How exciting, whatever next a toaster with RSS feeds burnt into my toast?
Now we will have mobile 2.0 hype.
sulli
RTFJ.
My complaint about Scott Pakin's automatic complaint-letter generator
I have something important I need to tell you. I anticipate it will result in my receiving a barrage of angry e-mail from Scott Pakin's automatic complaint-letter generator accusing me of being lackluster, but Scott Pakin's automatic complaint-letter generator is an institutional leech dedicated to sucking the life out of our doomed corpses. To organize my discussion, I suggest that we take one step back in the causal chain and unmask Scott Pakin's automatic complaint-letter generator's true face and intentions in regard to hooliganism. The central paradox of Scott Pakin's automatic complaint-letter generator's sophistries, the twist that makes Scott Pakin's automatic complaint-letter generator's sound bites so irresistible to reckless, contemptible pamphleteers, is that these people truly believe that we should avoid personal responsibility.
For one thing, if Scott Pakin's automatic complaint-letter generator opened up its callous mind just a teeny-weeny little bit, maybe it could understand that. But more important, some people think that before bothering us with its next batch of garrulous flimflams, Scott Pakin's automatic complaint-letter generator should review the rules of writing a persuasive essay, most notably the one about sticking to the topic the writer establishes. Others maintain that even the most aberrant turncoats you'll ever see would think twice before sitting next to someone whose sole dream is to bask in the insecure shine of statism. In the interest of clearing up the confusion, I'll make the following observation: If we're to effectively carry out our responsibilities and make a future for ourselves, we will first have to direct our efforts toward clearly defined goals and measure progress toward those goals as frequently and as objectively as possible. So that there may be no misunderstanding, let me make it clear that I, speaking as someone who is not a featherbrained, illaudable vagabond, do not propose a supernatural solution to the problems we're having with Scott Pakin's automatic complaint-letter generator. Instead, I propose a practical, realistic, down-to-earth approach that requires only that I overcome the obstacles that people like it establish.
Scott Pakin's automatic complaint-letter generator's homilies promote a redistribution of wealth. This is always an appealing proposition for Scott Pakin's automatic complaint-letter generator's supporters because much of the redistributed wealth will undoubtedly end up in the hands of the redistributors as a condign reward for their loyalty to Scott Pakin's automatic complaint-letter generator. We were put on this planet to be active, to struggle, and to analyze Scott Pakin's automatic complaint-letter generator's treatises in the manner of sociological studies of mass communication and persuasion. We were not put here to shame my name, as Scott Pakin's automatic complaint-letter generator might aver. When one examines the ramifications of letting Scott Pakin's automatic complaint-letter generator open the floodgates of prætorianism, one finds a preponderance of evidence leading to the conclusion that its apple-polishers have been staggering around like punch-drunk fighters hit too many times -- stunned, confused, betrayed, and trying desperately to rationalize its lubricious off-the-
We just heard M$ tell us that Cell phones were too expensive and that they were going to save us with WiFi+Voip.
Now we have a service that will cost a fortune in many markets.
Which is it?...too expensive or attractively priced?
I have never aspired to become a speechwriter, politician, or mainstream political columnist. Nevertheless, if you can look beyond my pitiable writing style you'll surely see that I have something important to tell you about the guy who complained about Scott Pakin's automatic complaint-letter generator. The nitty-gritty of what I'm about to write is this: Knowledge is the key that unlocks the shackles of bondage. That's why it's important for you to know that if the guy who complained about Scott Pakin's automatic complaint-letter generator can't stand the heat, he should get out of the kitchen. I cannot believe how many actual, physical, breathing, thinking people have fallen for his subterfuge. I'm thoroughly stunned. The guy who complained about Scott Pakin's automatic complaint-letter generator's memoirs have caused widespread social alienation, and from this alienation a thousand social pathologies have sprung. Before I move on, I just want to state once more that the guy who complained about Scott Pakin's automatic complaint-letter generator's most progressive idea is to replace law and order with anarchy and despotism. If that sounds progressive to you, you must be facing the wrong way. The guy who complained about Scott Pakin's automatic complaint-letter generator and his factotums are blossoms on the upas tree of paternalism. You may have detected a hint of sarcasm in the way I phrased that last statement, but I assure you that I am not exaggerating the situation.
It has been said that vexatious degenerates have traditionally tried to piggyback on substantive issues to gain legitimacy for themselves. I believe that to be true. I also believe that I can't follow his pretzel logic. I do, however, know that the guy who complained about Scott Pakin's automatic complaint-letter generator has recently been going around claiming that his revenge fantasies are a breath of fresh air amid our modern culture's toxic cloud of chaos. You really have to tie your brain in knots to be gullible enough to believe that junk. What I find frightening is that some academics actually believe the guy who complained about Scott Pakin's automatic complaint-letter generator's line that ethical responsibility is merely a trammel of earthbound mortals and should not be required of a demigod like him. In this case, "academics" refers to a stratum of the residual intelligentsia surviving the recession of its demotic base, not to those seekers of truth who understand that there's a time to keep silent and a time to speak. There's a time to love and a time to hate. There's a time for war and a time for peace. And, I claim, there's a time to put inexorable pressure on the guy who complained about Scott Pakin's automatic complaint-letter generator to be a bit more careful about what he says and does. Or, to put it less poetically, I want my life to count. I want to be part of something significant and lasting. I want to shield people from the guy who complained about Scott Pakin's automatic complaint-letter generator's insincere and infantile deceptions. Particularism has served as the justification for the butchering, torture, and enslavement of more people than any other "ism". That's why it's the guy who complained about Scott Pakin's automatic complaint-letter generator's favorite; it makes it easy for him to grasp at straws, trying to find increasingly cold-blooded ways to ignite a maelstrom of prætorianism. I had a brief conversation recently with some frowzy mafia dons who were trying to advertise "magical" diets and bogus weight-loss pills. That conversation convinced me that implying that the guy who complained about Scott Pakin's automatic complaint-letter generator should burn books because "it's the right thing to do" is no different from implying that he can override nature. Both statements are ludicrous.
It's irrelevant that my allegations are 100% true. The guy who complained about Scott Pakin's automatic complaint-letter generator distrusts my information and arguments and will forever maintain his current opin
Not many company can manage to live off someone else's content for free
worked for Google news/images/web and for them its a billion dollar earner
he could argue that he is merely a search engine indexing and caching the content
after all thats what Google does so their arguments can be his
Google has never moved past the leech stage, they dice up content sucked from anywhere they can find it. Their ads are spam. The user did not ask for them; GOOG gets paid for them. The Anti-leech http://www.customizegoogle.com/
Expose some xml data, and I can get at it w/ some simple xpath/xsl/xquery voodoo, mix and match with other data, refactor into my thing, which is itself exposed, other people query it, mix it, ad infinitum. Here are some of CNN's current top story titles:
doc("http://rss.cnn.com/rss/cnn_topstories.rss")/
Where do I cross the line from 'fair use' to 'copyright infringement'? If I run a query that returns something like:
<value>1</value>
...I think it would be hard to argue that I've violated anyone's rights, no matter how widely I disseminate this information. If however I suck down an author's entire oeuvre and spit it out for anyone else to use, then I've probably stepped on somebody toes. So where do you draw the line? I really have no idea.
... would suffice.
If there is a copyright notice associated with xml data, then at some point you may also very well be obligated to copy and redistribute the copyright notice along with the data. Should there be a standard way of associating xml copyrights with xml data, so that the copyright notice could be part of the standard xml query? Nothing complicated, something as simple as
If you look at cnn's rss feed page summary, you can see that they put their terms of use out-of-band on the webpage. Nothing in the xml data itself gives any indication about what the copyright terms are (the copyright holder is identified).
Of course, it would be nice if copyright authors could be really terse with such things, as it gets to be a little cumbersome to be transferring huge copyright notices along with little xml queries. Maybe copyrights should be uri's.
Anyway, the main point is that because xml queries span the gamut from atomic data points to petabytes of data, and because the whole point of xml is to simplify the copying and transmission of data, they make an interesting case study about how to define sensible boundary conditions for copyright application.
and then there is always flickr mobile:
http://www.flickr.com/mob
it a break, if to its laid-back don't ffel that dabblers. In truth, wall: *BSD faces a numbers. The loss Bought the farm.... outreach are you are a screaming out how to make the
I'm using my Nokia 9300 and /. RSS right now and have been for at least a month. The simple way is to peronalize a Google Home page a add all your RSS feeds to it. Then, log in to your google account from any WEP browser and volia, google reformats your pages for you.
Even forms and images come through just fine. This whole message was posted using it.
-S
Google has never moved past the leech stage, they dice up content sucked from anywhere they can find it. Their ads are spam. The user did not ask for them; GOOG gets paid for them. The Anti-leech http://www.customizegoogle.com/
Slashdot has never moved past the leech stage, they dice up content sucked from anywhere they can find it. Their ads are spam. The user did not ask for them; Slashdot gets paid for them. The Anti-leech http://www.customizeslashdot.com/
ok, i just signed up for the 'web access' on my new v3 razr phone through my local provider a few weeks ago.
this so called 'internet on phones' is even more ridiculous than the concept of playing games on celphones.
1) the web-browser is SOO slow - takes a LONG time to initialize...
2) they make you navigate through 3 or 4 screens before you can even type in an 'http://' address, each of which is hideously slow and probably costing me money because it's actually navigating some website on my providers network
3) viewing an image heavy site like flikr on a phone? you've GOT to be kidding me - let alone the fact that most celphone users are paying by the kb...
all adds up to 'yet more hype around celphones' that basically is a waste of time and money for the consumer.
no thanx
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Good day, sir:
I'm from the RSS Weed 'n Feed, and I'm here to congratulate you on your COMPLETE FAILURE.
Have a remarkable day.
--RSS Weed 'n Feed
AvantGo has been doing this for many years! I remember using it when I bought my Palm V at JavaOne in 1998. It'll take any web page and let you read it on your PDA (or smart phone).
Flickr already has a mobile phone interface, what's the point of building another?
GCHQ Quantum Insert installed. If only our tongues were made of glass, how much more careful we would be when we speak