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Microsoft Uses DDR Dance Pad To Stamp Spam

writertype writes "Apparently Microsoft researchers are also DDR enthusiasts, for their StepUI research project uses a dance pad to stamp out spam from email, scroll through photographs or perform other functions. 'People really like stomping with two feet to delete spam,' said Kevin Schofield, general manager of strategy and communications at Microsoft Research." Given my inbox, I'd be ready for the '08 Olympics. If only they would make Spam Stamping a sport.

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  1. Spam Spam Revolution by ExE122 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I wanna hire this guy to clean out my inbox!

    As stupid as this whole idea is, it would probably be a lot healthier if people actually had to get up off their duffs to check their email. (StepUI also could end up appealing to another group: Couch potatoes looking for a way to lose some weight while still surfing the Internet) But in all honesty, even though there will be a whole following of DDR nerds who would swear by this, I think it will end up about as popular as a Dvorak keyboard.

    Now if they ever find a way to hook up a Nintendo gun to shoot down spam, I'm all about that!

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    1. Re:Spam Spam Revolution by vertinox · · Score: 1

      I wanna hire this guy [ebaumsworld.com] to clean out my inbox!

      Speaking of content thieves and spammers...

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    2. Re:Spam Spam Revolution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But in all honesty, even though there will be a whole following of DDR nerds who would swear by this, I think it will end up about as popular as a Dvorak keyboard.

      No, no DDR nerds will swear by this. At it, maybe. Us DDR nerds like to have fun, and this sounds pointless and retarded. What's next? A steering wheel to surf the Internet?

    3. Re:Spam Spam Revolution by djheron · · Score: 1

      Personally.. I'd rather have this guy... Not DDR, but they're being sued by Konami for putting out the game. Same concept, same machine, different title & songs.

    4. Re:Spam Spam Revolution by Vacuous · · Score: 1

      Actually their being sued by Konami because they made In the Groove 1 installable on DDR cabinents.

      Also iamchris4life is every bit as good at arrow stompy games as Kevbo (can't find a single video site for him) is.

    5. Re:Spam Spam Revolution by amling · · Score: 1

      I _am_ a DDR nerd, you insensitive clod!

      In all seriousness I am a DDR player and I think this is stupid and I would bet the rest of the DDR crowd would agree.

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    6. Re:Spam Spam Revolution by ToadMan8 · · Score: 1

      I was reading this going WOW! I need one of these things! I'm going to read down and see if people are already using them. Then I read your comment first, and realized the reason I was so excited about it was because I am typing this post on a Dvorak keyboard. A Finger Works (RIP) Touchstream LP, in fact. So I said "Oh. Heh."
      ;)

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    7. Re:Spam Spam Revolution by EmperorKagato · · Score: 1

      That guy gets an F for that A. I had friends back in Carbondale, IL that would Double A "A" for fun.

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    8. Re:Spam Spam Revolution by InsideTheAsylum · · Score: 1

      For that very same song? Hmmm, I'm having doubts here.

    9. Re:Spam Spam Revolution by uigrad_2000 · · Score: 1
      Oh no, I'm a DDR freak and I've typed only on dvorak keyboards for the last 8 years.

      Now, a slashdot poster says that he's not as geeky as -- those DDR people -- who are almost as bad as those geeks who use dvorak keyboards.

      I suddenly realize my chances to ever get a girlfriend are actually negative.

      Actually, negative probabilities doesn't even make sense. As a nerd, I should know that. My probability to have a girlfriend is certainly positive, but it has an imaginary component to it. How complex!

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    10. Re:Spam Spam Revolution by dangitman · · Score: 1
      A steering wheel to surf the Internet?

      How about a surfboard?

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    11. Re:Spam Spam Revolution by stpats · · Score: 1

      Actually, this guy is more impressive still. Way more than four buttons to push on this one.

    12. Re:Spam Spam Revolution by Tiggs23 · · Score: 1

      I do hope someone with mod points sees the parent post. I had a very hard time not laughing loudly and disturbing people in nearby cubicles. I did laugh silently, though. Pretty hard too. By the way, uigrad, where do you live? (Yes, I'm female.)

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  2. Dangerously Stupid Idea by TripMaster+Monkey · · Score: 1, Funny

    From TFA:
    "People really like stomping with two feet to delete spam," said Kevin Schofield, general manager of strategy and communications at Microsoft Research. "And it raises your energy level and heart beat, which is good for sedentary health issues.
    After a thousand or so spams, this 'stomping with two feet' business is going to get mighty old.

    Also, when (it's only a matter of time) one of those couch potatoes suffers a coronary after attempting to delete endless floods of spam by 'stomping with two feet', who will get sued?

    • Microsoft
    • The dance pad manufacturers
    • The spammers
    • All of the above

    I can't wait.
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    1. Re:Dangerously Stupid Idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      After a thousand or so spams, this 'stomping with two feet' business is going to get mighty old.

      Precisely. What kind of idiot puts something like this in front of people, and just because they think "neat idea!" and have fun for a bit, that they would continue to have fun indefinitely?

      People like the novelty. Any real study would last long enough for the novelty to wear off.

    2. Re:Dangerously Stupid Idea by WidescreenFreak · · Score: 1

      People like the novelty. Any real study would last long enough for the novelty to wear off.

      Oh, really? And what if the people in the study start to see that they're getting healthier because of it?

      "Hey, honey, you're looking more toned than before."

      "I've been getting exercise stomping out spam."

      "Really? Well ... I like it!" { one eyebrow goes up }

      The next day...

      "Hey, Jack! What's with the huge smile? And are you slightly hunched over?"

      "Nevermind! Where's the spam? I need to stomp out more of it!"

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    3. Re:Dangerously Stupid Idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They should integrate it into the mod system on slashdot. I'd love to have one to stamp out all of your karma-whoring first posts.
      But that would get really old after about two days, if my legs could even last that long.

    4. Re:Dangerously Stupid Idea by dantheman82 · · Score: 1

      Don't worry, it'll be the same company. Microsoft will buy a dance pad manufacturer, and make it a subsidiary. Spammers like to sign up for Hotmail/MSN accounts to send their spam. And who better than Microsoft to be responsible for bloat (of code, that is)?

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    5. Re:Dangerously Stupid Idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People like the novelty. Any real study would last long enough for the novelty to wear off.

      Oh, really? And what if the people in the study start to see that they're getting healthier because of it?

      I think you misread "long enough for the novelty to wear off" as "long enough for them to stop enjoying it".

      My point was that any real evaluation of this needs to be done for long enough that they are measuring actual appreciation and not how gimmicky it is.

    6. Re:Dangerously Stupid Idea by WidescreenFreak · · Score: 1

      Then it comes down to the definition of "appreciation". Does it encompass only the pleasure of stomping out spam, only the pleasure of possibly getting in shape, or both? I would think that if the idea is employed appropriately, there will be a continuing appreciation for it, particularly in those companies that might not have any kind of health/exercise area on-site.

      People might appreciate it differently than we think. So, it's very possible that it won't be appreciated as briefly as we might.

      And if the company has any kind of high turn-around, such as at a customer service site, there are always new people coming through the door to catch onto the gimmick.

      So, I'm not dismissing this idea as quickly as others are.

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  3. In other news... by Loconut1389 · · Score: 1

    Spammers report massive influx of new email addresses as people sign up on mailing lists in order to get their daily workouts and viagra for their 'other' daily workout.

    1. Re:In other news... by KarmaMB84 · · Score: 1

      With all that bouncing around, why not combine them?

  4. I wonder... by Spud+Stud · · Score: 1

    ...if this could me made to work as a controller for World of Warcraft.

    1. Re:I wonder... by loconet · · Score: 1

      I hope so. That would take care of my addiction to that damn game _and_ the daily exercise at once. Where do i sign up?

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    2. Re:I wonder... by mwvdlee · · Score: 1

      On my PS2, the dance pad acted just like a standard controller; I could play DDR-style games with the joypad and play ordinary games with the dance pad.

      I see no reason why a dance pad couldn't be used with WoW (or other PC games) by using any of the converters available.

      You'd only need to configure WoW in a sensible way.

      You can buy a PS2 dance pad for $10 and and a PS2-USB converter for $7, so it isn't even that expensive.

      Be sure to post a video to /. when you've done it! ;)

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    3. Re:I wonder... by stunt_penguin · · Score: 1

      That being the case, it should be easy enough to use flash or shockwave to create new variations of dance and directional games..... flash can listen for joypads as well as keystrokes.... interesting :o)

      Oh, combine that with flash's webcam ability, and you can maybe do something with your hands too :o)

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    4. Re:I wonder... by Senzei · · Score: 1
      I see no reason why a dance pad couldn't be used with WoW (or other PC games) by using any of the converters available.

      Yeah, because having one of our healers pass out from exhaustion is just what I want in the middle of trying to down rag.

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  5. WOW! by ceeam · · Score: 1

    Microsoft research guys really rock!

    And now if you ducktape Nintendo Revolution controller to a chair... the options are endless!

    1. Re:WOW! by Ucklak · · Score: 1

      They wonder why Google steals their thunder. Google creates X, Microsoft comes up with a DDR device to delete emails.
      Microsoft needs to continue to copy good ideas instead of coming up with their own.

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    2. Re:WOW! by griffjon · · Score: 1

      Personally, I'd prefer the Nintendo light gun so I could go all Cheney on the spam.

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    3. Re:WOW! by uigrad_2000 · · Score: 1
      Microsoft research guys really rock!
      I knew something about this article smelled...

      When Roxor games wanted to make a DDR knock-off, they went to the linux peopule who helpd develop Stepmania. StepMania is a sourceforge project, and has been the basis for almost all dancing-genre games since the original from Konami. Roxor's game, In the Groove is an excellent example of linux found in most arcades.

      Chances are, StepUI borrows more from StepMania than the name. StepMail and StepPhoto are other "innovations" by these Redmondites that use StepUI.

      My guess is that these Redmondites are actually open source guys/girls in disguise, and they'll surprise they're managers with the source of their inspiration with their bosses after their internship is over. Or, if they decide to stay with the beast, they can use this example to show they aren't afraid to steal ideas, and call it their own :)

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  6. How will the /. ers react? by imikem · · Score: 0

    Will we be able to credit the Evil Empire with a bit of humor and imagination? How many knee-jerk bashes will follow? From this longtime ABM'er {Apple, Novell, Linux, Sun}, I say, "Well done, Microsoft."

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  7. Just what the world needs... by sparkydevil · · Score: 1

    Spam to a Eurobeat beat!

    1. Re:Just what the world needs... by cciRRus · · Score: 1

      No, stomp to the Eurobeats, like this. The all time DDR classic!

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  8. DDR Chorded Keyboard by G4from128k · · Score: 1

    With 9 buttons, a DDR pad could provide 72 chorded input combinations -- more than enough for ASCII+Numeric+Controls.

    Although I wouldn't want to write a novel on a DDR pad, it might be a good way to get some exercise during shorter text messaging sessions.

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    1. Re:DDR Chorded Keyboard by jeffmeden · · Score: 1

      9 buttons... You didn't count the center, did you? It would be rather inconvenient to catch your breath and insert a stream of the letter r into the conversation. The typical mat actually has 10 buttons, 4 cardinal directions, 4 subcardinal, and select+start. My math reveals about 100 combinations, because you can include the double-foot possibility in the matrix.

    2. Re:DDR Chorded Keyboard by Maset · · Score: 1

      OK, please explain this one to me. It is a 3x3 button mat right?

    3. Re:DDR Chorded Keyboard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Correct. It goes like this:

      A^B
      <0>
      CVD


      Sometimes with an additional Select and Start on a smaller pad in front. The trick is, the 0 in the middle is dead--it's where you stand if you don't want to be inputting anything. Frequently the back two diagonals (C and D) are dead as well, though not on all pads.

    4. Re:DDR Chorded Keyboard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    5. Re:DDR Chorded Keyboard by Al+Dimond · · Score: 1

      It looks like a 3x3 grid, but the middle button is inactive (in the game you stand in the middle in order to not press anything, which is useful during menu selection). You really wouldn't want to use select and start for normal letters in my opinion as a mediocre DDR player, because they are small and out of the way of your feet.

      Also as a mediocre DDR player, I think that DDR is way too slow to be used as an input device for text. Consider how fast you can move your fingers and then think if you had to play DDR that quickly with every step being a double. This is a problem because most people already think much faster than they type. I have had to type one-handed briefly after having wrist surgery, and I've also tried to fashion my remote (one of those ATi thingies) into a typing device. Both input methods were annoyingly slow, though I did get pretty good at one-handed typing for a while. But if you were going to do it, I'd suggest using a text processor with word completion (OpenOffice 1.1 did this, I haven't used to new version much to see if they still do) and devoting chords to the most common words like "the", "an", etc. Also make the backspace key very easy to press, though it probably could not be just one button as if you only have 8 buttons reserving one for any particular function would result in only 42 remaining combinations. You'd also need to come up with a way to do control keys, which would probably look a lot like sticky keys.

      Meh. Too much effort for not much gain, in my opinion.

    6. Re:DDR Chorded Keyboard by eheimer · · Score: 1
      I believe the correct formula would be ((n^2+n)/2) for figuring the maximum number of unique 1- or 2-button combinations. That would leave a 9-button mat with 45 unique combinations (given only two feet) or a 10-button mat with 55 unique combinations.

      However, your calculation (n^2-n) works if the mat has the ability to detect which foot (left or right) made contact (which may be the case - I don't know) In which case a better formula might be (n^2+n), allowing for a double-foot stomp on a single pad - and you could actually get 90 unique combinations out of a 9-button mat, or 110 on a 10-button.

      Wow, I've put way too much thought into this. I hope someone gets something out of it!

  9. Combine this with Dog Training School by ReidMaynard · · Score: 0

    The Rusty can have his own email! ..say what are all these USP shipments of dog toys...

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  10. Dumbest ideas of the year contest by InsaneProcessor · · Score: 1, Insightful

    This has to rate as one of the dumbest ideas so far this year.
    br> dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb

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    1. Re:Dumbest ideas of the year contest by m50d · · Score: 1

      I think it's a great idea, if not specific to spam. People scoff at having sounds for desktop events, but I couldn't manage without them - I rely on them to know when things are happening. Likewise I like to be using as many monitors as possible - it just gives more space for outputting information to me. However, I only seem to be able to input information one way at a time - I don't have enough hands to use keyboard and mouse together, and voice recognition isn't good enough as yet for me to rely on my microphone for text input. Using feet as well just means more ways to input data at the same time - even if it was just as simple as being able to move the cursor while typing with both hands.

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    2. Re:Dumbest ideas of the year contest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There WAS a mouse device made for feet.

    3. Re:Dumbest ideas of the year contest by Senzei · · Score: 1
      br> dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb

      Yep, dumb, just like opening tags on html.

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  11. SPAM can not die! by badevlad · · Score: 1

    Always will be some ways to send SPAM... Police can not stop all killers, isn't right? The same thing with a SPAM. But here are some good thing: you always know who order this SPAM. Avery letter contains phone number and/or Internet address.

  12. What if? by kerouacsgp · · Score: 1

    What if spammers are using the same method to send spam?

    1. Re:What if? by Monkeys!!! · · Score: 1

      "What if spammers are using the same method to send spam?"

      Then it becomes a dance to the death!

  13. Re:DDR Dance Pad? by youngerpants · · Score: 1

    Dance Dance Revolution; you know, the dancing game you see in arcades (do arcades still exist?)

  14. Spam? by Poromenos1 · · Score: 1

    Given my inbox, I'd be ready for the '08 Olympics.

    I don't get it. Does everyone except me have that big a problem with spam? SpamAssassin deletes 99% of my domain spam and Gmail catches another 95% or so. I only see one spam message every month. Granted, I don't get many (about 20 a day) total, but I don't see any of those, and I would imagine that people that got 100x that would only see about one or two a day.

    Does anyone have a huge problem with spam getting through the filters?

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    1. Re:Spam? by Vokkyt · · Score: 1
      In certain situations, like offices or campus computer systems, spam e-mails fester pretty well. Because all of my office is able to connect to one mailbox (we are a Career Center, so we get tons of jobs daily), if any spam gets sent to our job e-mail, everyone gets it. On top of that, because of the pretty insecure windows network the campus has, it is incredulously easy for one person to start giving the entire campus tons of spam.

      Now, my Mac back in the room does a nice job of catching all of this junk and puts it where it belongs...in the trash. The Outlook program at my office...well, let's just say that we used to only get ~30 e-mails in the job inbox a day. Now it's up to ~80 with spam that gets through. Situations like this are ripe for spammers.

    2. Re:Spam? by hotwatermusic · · Score: 0

      " SpamAssassin deletes 99% of my domain spam and Gmail catches another 95% "

      hmm..194% of the spam then? ... Minorty Report? Can you see the SPAM before it is sent?

    3. Re:Spam? by Poromenos1 · · Score: 1

      Yes, you are great at math. Or, I have two email addresses.

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    4. Re:Spam? by Kijori · · Score: 1

      This would work anyway (see other comment for why it isn't relevant). Catching 99% and 95% could be done just by putting two filters in series, one catching 99% of all spam and the other 95% of what gets through. This would give you a total efficiency of 99.95%.

    5. Re:Spam? by saltydogdesign · · Score: 1

      I got 133 yesterday that got hooked by my Apple Mail filter, which is a fairly light day -- usually I get around 200. About 20 or 30 make it to my inbox each day, but I'm too lazy to tweak the filter. Every now and then they find a new way through, and I get a spike until I do a little filter training, after which, back to 20 a day.

      Then there are wierd floods of spam that occur every now and then. Sometimes I'll get like 500 in a few hours, all with almost identical subject lines.

      Granted, I have five email accounts, and one of them is used for sending out a 1600+ subscriber newsletter. (I always get a massive flood of spam after the newsletter -- which is totally a sign-up affair -- goes out.)

      So there's that. My 2 cents.

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    6. Re:Spam? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I don't get it. Does everyone except me have that big a problem with spam? SpamAssassin deletes 99% of my domain spam and Gmail catches another 95% or so. I only see one spam message every month.
      No, you certainly don't get it. Using your own percentages (my spam filtering is more efficient than that) on my incoming spamload, I'd probably receive a hundred spams every day.

      After blacklisting (I've got tens of thousands of spammers blacklisted, as well as the entire Comcast worm farm) I still have many thousands of incoming spams daily. SpamAssassin, Clam, MacAfee, SPF, and a few other tricks pick off most of them. But I still see a couple every single day, because the spammers are evolving their business model at least as fast as spamfighters can counter them, and because I won't use methods that are likely to create false positives.

      Be glad you don't get it!
  15. Turn it into Karaoke Revolution... by lpangelrob · · Score: 1

    While stomping out your spam, you can also chant repeatedly: "Developers! Developers! Developers!" MS Microphone attachment sold separately.

    1. Re:Turn it into Karaoke Revolution... by Jamil+Karim · · Score: 1

      And for your upper body workout, the patented MS Chair (TM) can be yours for a limited time. It comes with a rope for easy retrieval, so that it can be utilized* again and again.

      * Not responsible for damage caused. Certain restrictions apply.

  16. 2 feet macro for... by Brit_in_the_USA · · Score: 1

    ... CTRL+ALT+DEL ?

    My back hurts having to bend over to press the third key with my hand...

    1. Re:2 feet macro for... by lbmouse · · Score: 1

      "... CTRL+ALT+DEL ?"

      I could hit the CTRL and the DEL, but my middle leg isn't long enough to reach the floor.

    2. Re:2 feet macro for... by Senzei · · Score: 1
      My back hurts having to bend over to press the third key with my hand...

      I see a highly inappropriate anti-microsoft joke somewhere in there.

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  17. This is a strategy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    'People really like stomping with two feet to delete spam,' said Kevin Schofield, general manager of strategy

    Someone needs to give MSFT a kick in the ass if this is what they think of as strategy.

  18. A better idea -- Bill G voodoo doll! by JonTurner · · Score: 1

    DDR Pad? Nah. Give me a little voodoo doll of BillG. A poke with a needle deletes spam, a good choking does an anti-spyware sweep and a virus scan, and a healthy stomp reinstalls WinXP.

    Problem solved. The Voodoo Doll Interface(tm). You heard it here first.

  19. in the Slashdot Version... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you can stomp on dupes!

    1. Re:in the Slashdot Version... by DigiShaman · · Score: 1

      DUDE!!! This this is Slashdot. Millions of geeks around the world are out of shape. We can't keep up!

      Ohhh the humanity!

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  20. No, it absolutely is not. by WidescreenFreak · · Score: 1

    Oh, stop it.

    All that you'd need are volunteers inside the company who need a stress reliever. Not only would they be able to work out their frustrations in a physical manner, it would also be good physchological help. Pent up frustrations have been proven to have negative, physical reactions, so this could be a great way for employees to work it off.

    Frustrated by your manager's micromanging? Dance it off (and help to get rid of spam).

    Frustrated by your spouse or family members to the point that it's affecting your ability to work efficiently? Dance it off (and help to get rid of spam).

    Frustrated by your next-door-cubicle-neighbor's incessant use of the speakerphone? Dance it off (and help to get rid of spam).

    Frustrated by people trying desperately to get first post on Slashdot for reasons that no one seems to comprehend? Dance it off (and help to get rid of spam).

    Hell, even just basic aerobic exercise that normal cubicle dwellers would not get would be motivation enough. I know that I wouldn't mind stomping out some spam for about 15 minutes after lunch to burn some of it off. That would be 15 minutes more exercise than I'd normally get and I'd love every minute of it, knowing that I'm thwarting the potential success of those low-life spammers.

    Make it a volunteer-only project; make the rules clear that if you have a coronary -- well, you volunteered.

    Stamp out spam, get some exercise, lose weight, release negative emotions, tone up, do some good for yourself and the computing community - at the same time. Sounds like a win-win to me.

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    1. Re:No, it absolutely is not. by TripMaster+Monkey · · Score: 0


      Frustrated by your next-door-cubicle-neighbor's incessant dancing?

      Pent up frustrations, indeed.

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    2. Re:No, it absolutely is not. by WidescreenFreak · · Score: 1

      Oh, for crying out loud. You're just being argumentative now for the sake of being argumentative.

      Where is it written that there can't be a special area put aside somewhere for people to go to do this? Companies that have on-site gyms put them in their own room. So, I would expect any company that does a DDR-stress-reliever to do the same thing.

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    3. Re:No, it absolutely is not. by BaudKarma · · Score: 1

      What we have here are two different functions. 1) Dancing or other phsical activity to relieve stress. 2) Deleting spam.

      I just don't see how combining the two adds anything to either activity.

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    4. Re:No, it absolutely is not. by susano_otter · · Score: 1

      It may not add anything to either activity, but it does recover some of the time you'd lose engaging in both activities sequentially rather than in parallel.

      Whenever you can do two different tasks at once, without losing significantly on either one, you gain value in terms of time saved.

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  21. What they really need... by Millennium · · Score: 1

    ...is a Strong Bad-style DELETED! button.

    1. Re:What they really need... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      baleted?

  22. Deutsche Demokratische Republik by TheRealSync · · Score: 1

    I was quite confused there for a moment... An East German Dance Pad?!?

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    1. Re:Deutsche Demokratische Republik by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow... That was so funny

    2. Re:Deutsche Demokratische Republik by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was thinking Dual Data Rate (as in memory) myself until I read the whole thing.

  23. lame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apparently Microsoft researchers are also DDR enthusiasts

    There are some things that one should not openly admit...

  24. Didn't Microsoft promise us an end to SPAM? by dannycim · · Score: 1

    Wasn't it a couple of years ago that Microsoft promised us that the SPAM problem would be fixed by now? This is their solution? {Hmmmm.}

    1. Re:Didn't Microsoft promise us an end to SPAM? by Korgrath · · Score: 1

      {I don't know how to answer that question.}

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  25. lick it and stick it by boojumbadger · · Score: 1

    onto a pile then two foot stomp to crush the spam.

  26. Joyboard by lazarus · · Score: 1

    Sounds like the joyboard that became famous in the Amiga circles. Instead of stomping on it to relive stress Amiga coders would try to sit as motionless as possible on it crosslegged.

    Guru Meditation #00000004.0000AAC0

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    1. Re:Joyboard by somersault · · Score: 1

      Cool, I never knew what that Guru Meditation error was all about til now :D

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  27. Tiresome by Gothmolly · · Score: 1

    I'm beginning to think that Taco is a bot. A few simple rules like "if subject like 'Mac' and subject like 'Intel' then insert.comment=$WOW_BENCHMARKING" and "if subject like 'spam' then insert.comment=$SIZE_OF_INBOX_WHINE" would cover it.

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    1. Re:Tiresome by Jerf · · Score: 1

      Get better or I shall replace you with a small shell script!

  28. Great by lowe0 · · Score: 1

    I can't wait until my upstairs neighbor gets one of these.

  29. This is a great idea! by Cl1mh4224rd · · Score: 1

    Almost as good as the "Jump to Conclusions" mat...

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    1. Re:This is a great idea! by Blind_Io_42 · · Score: 1
      Give it two weeks, it will be /.ed.

      Probably not now that I said that, so check Fark.com, they are not as picky.

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  30. The next great aerobics video... by jrister · · Score: 1

    Badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger, MUSHROOM! MUSHROOM!...

    Do your jumping-jacks/squats with the badgers!

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  31. Spam problems solved! by ImaLamer · · Score: 1

    Good job, let me congratulate you with a nice e-mail message.

    Just fill in your e-mail here: ____________________

    Don't forget to hyper-link the address!

  32. /.ed by crazed · · Score: 1

    The page was down for me; if you can't see the site, view the Coral Distributed Site.

  33. Utterly pointless by MrNougat · · Score: 1

    Don't bother putting any more effort into things like SenderID, which could work towards a technological solution to the problem of spam.

    Keep working hard on letting us play Whack-A-Mole with our feet instead.

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    1. Re:Utterly pointless by Senzei · · Score: 1

      Dear god, why are you on slashdot? You could be out helping homeless people, or saving the whales, or working on a cure for cancer. Why are we doing anything aside from those things that will benefit the rest of humanity? Oh, yeah, fun. Maybe that is what is going on here. That or PR, probably some of both.

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  34. Darn! by crunchly · · Score: 1

    From the headline, I got excited that I might be able to break out my Rambus rumba to crank out status reports as well!

  35. Sarcastic MS ridicule... by OriginalSpaceMan · · Score: 1

    You and I both know that this is just a stupid, fun project that will never go anywhere with any type of consumer market. Most new ideas we see posted on /. are things that will never make it to a real consumer market. My issue is that if this was an opensource project, or maybe done by a group of MIT students it would be "neat". Since this has been done by Microsoft we immediately flame them etc etc etc. I think the entire /. community needs to look at things with a more open mind and less judgement towards non-community owned projects. It is neat, I don't want one, but it's neat to see new ways to interface with your computer, even if it is to delete spam (LOL).

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    1. Re:Sarcastic MS ridicule... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It may have something to do with the fact that we (the consumers) are paying them (the producers) to dick about with stupid chunks of technology that will never benefit the end-consumer.

      Yes, this is a great bit of fun, but the money to fund this project is coming from Microsoft's research money. Surely this money could be better spent working on new tech for Vista, tightening security or developing intuitive HUIs that work?

      I agree, it's a fun project. If it was opensource, then the wasted produce would simply be volunteers time, energy and money from their own pockets. If it was done by a group of MIT students, then they will probably link it back to a piece of research that will be useful later on to them, wherever they go. That's where this kind of project belongs. Microsoft as a company are being paid to develop primarily business products, and it's business money that's driving it. Surely that's where their research should lie?

      As an IT manager, I look at this article and think, "my company is spending thousands and thousands of pounds on their company. Why are they playing DDR?".

    2. Re:Sarcastic MS ridicule... by belg4mit · · Score: 1

      Yeah, because much of the great research done at PARC--which has benefitted us--was so clearly related to
      making photocopies. There is nothing wrong with research for research's sake, be it private or public. See also
      serendipity, James Burke, and NASA/DOE/DOD (yeah, like this internet thing you're using).

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  36. ITS ON! by twistedsymphony · · Score: 1

    SPAM you just got SERVED!

  37. Use DDR pad for "single-stepping" the debugger by kriegsman · · Score: 1

    1. Attach DDR dance pad to computer.
    2. Remap key codes for debugger commands "Step In", "Step Over", "Step Out."
    3. Actually step through code...

    -Mark

    1. Re:Use DDR pad for "single-stepping" the debugger by biobogonics · · Score: 1

      1. Attach DDR dance pad to computer.
      2. Remap key codes for debugger commands "Step In", "Step Over", "Step Out."
      3. Actually step through code...


      This gives a new meaning to "stamping out the bugs".

      Personally I would rather see something like a large Wacom tablet that would record movement and output dance notation (labanotation). This would actually be an AI application worth doing.

  38. Re:DDR Dance Pad? by Zerbs · · Score: 1

    do arcades still exist?)
    Get thee to a Dave & Busters!!!

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  39. Injuries by Syberghost · · Score: 1

    Foot injuries are more common than hand injuries. I'm talking about short-term injuries.

    I have a possibly-broken toe right now; if it impaired my ability to work, I'd be even more pissed off at that Brazilian kid who bungled the right downward block than I already am.

    Not to mention the fact that I can work in substantially the same way sitting in my recliner at home with my feet up as I can sitting in my crappy desk chair at work; I don't have to learn a completely different set of muscle movements for working in each location.

    1. Re:Injuries by paeanblack · · Score: 1

      I have a possibly-broken toe right now; if it impaired my ability to work, I'd be even more pissed off at that Brazilian kid who bungled the right downward block than I already am.

      You are whining about a boo-boo you got from trying to kick someone? Grow some balls.

    2. Re:Injuries by Syberghost · · Score: 1

      You are whining about a boo-boo you got from trying to kick someone? Grow some balls.

      I can see why a dork like you would be unable to comprehend a sports injury, but I figured you'd agree with my main point since I'm sure your DDR keypad is worn from constant use.

    3. Re:Injuries by Senzei · · Score: 1
      I can see why a dork like you would be unable to comprehend a sports injury,...

      Hmm, I can think of at least one muscle you apparently aren't working out. Try back when you can come up with a retort that does not involve generalizations and namecalling.

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  40. Read first, then bad talk microsoft by WadeTheWise · · Score: 2, Insightful

    FTFA: "In fact, for those for whom hands are less of an option, as a result of disabilities or injuries, feet might be the optimal solution" So it looks to me like Microsoft is actually trying to do something useful. I for one welcome any attempt at making technology available to a wider audience. But of course, this is slashdot talking about microsoft, of course no one will say anything nice.

    1. Re:Read first, then bad talk microsoft by compro01 · · Score: 1

      i belive that feet are already a commonly used method of computer using among those without usable hands, but granted, this would have a significantly shorter learning curve than learning to use a keyboard with your toes, for those who suddenly lose the use of their hands.

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  41. DDR Dance Pad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "DDR Dance Pad"

    my head asplode

    I can't say "dance" that many times in a sentence.

  42. Great, an interface for the thin by r3m0t · · Score: 1
    You simply don't have the strength...

    OK, I know that they say it's for those with disabilities, but it came to mind.

  43. I can think of how to make this more fun by phorm · · Score: 1

    I could have endless hours of antispam amusement if they shipped my antispam dance pad with one of the bigger spammers tied to the top of it. Stomping away at a spammer would be much more fun than stomping away at spam. Heck, for that I'd probably even invites my friends over, it's more fun than 'twister' :-)

  44. Like "concept cars..." by dpbsmith · · Score: 1

    ...I get so tired of big companies sponsoring genuinely interesting research, but never actually using the results. The research departments seem to be window-dressing or public relations or vanity.

    Remember Xerox PARC?

  45. Nice geek barometer that title by suitepotato · · Score: 1

    If you're a hardware techie, you immediately thought, "how is Microsoft, a software company, using a type of memory to stamp out spam? Is it detecting spam and refusing to store those bits? WTF?"

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  46. The next wave in spam will be... by anandamide · · Score: 1

    Advertisements for quack remedies for fallen arches.

  47. Filters make you fat by SWroclawski · · Score: 1

    Before, I had to say my weight was due to not having to get up in order to admin the box, but now it's due to effective spam fighting techniques.

    1. Re:Filters make you fat by Senzei · · Score: 1
      Before, I had to say my weight was due to not having to get up in order to admin the box, but now it's due to effective spam fighting techniques.

      So that could be a legitimate argument for a correlation between obesity and effectiveness as a system admin?

      I guess that means I could eventually effectively use the term "cheeseburger my way to a bonus" without some lewd connotation* being the first thing on people's minds?

      * Potential disgusting takes on that term are left as an exercise to the reader.

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  48. chair-throwing version? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can't wait until MS releases the "Ballmer Edition", complete with a pad on my wall so I can bust spam by hurling chairs at it!

  49. ...well yeah, we'll badmouth them by Benanov · · Score: 1

    I suspect that they'll probably patent the hell out of it. And that means that a great innovation like this will be locked down to the whims of our favorite convicted monopolist.

  50. Level of difficulty... by omgdanlolwtf · · Score: 1

    So... if I'm reading this right...

    Using Hotmail means the same thing as playing a 10-footer on Heavy?

  51. My idea for an excersice machine with incentive... by kadathseeker · · Score: 1

    was one of those bike machine things that would be rigged so that if you stopped pedaling you'd lose power to your PC. That'd give new meaning to Warcrack 'marathons'. Hehe.

    Only someone that still has a spam problem would dumb enough to but this. I spent 5 minutes setting up Gmail (with no other software) and get no spam, which gives me more time for kickboxing.

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  52. Microsoft's Origami Project by PhYrE2k2 · · Score: 1

    I see this linked to Microsoft's Origami Project. The iPod/cell phone/video player/messenging and all the other speculation may be getting some sort of e-mail.

    I really see people in the streets jumping in order to delete their mail, snapping to open it, touching their finger to their nose to create a new message...

    oh and tossing their Microsoft Origami across the room :)

    -M

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  53. I had no idea it was real by tenzig_112 · · Score: 1

    I saw this on /. and could not stop laughing. I put this pic together for a dumb Vista parody last night and had no idea it was actually real-

    http://www.ridiculopathy.com/news_detail.php?id=15 25

  54. ERrrrr maybe by billcopc · · Score: 1

    While the concept of DDR spam filtering is a load of McGriddle-induced dementia, the use of feet to control computers is not a new idea. Usually people type with both hands, so why not use the feet to do non-textual tasks ? Perhaps even mousing, with a little practice. A decent-sized touch sensor at your feet could allow you to work faster and more comfortably.

    I recall many years back someone had prototyped a "kick box" that laid beneath the desk and housed several pressure switches along its sides. It was demonstrated using a diminutive flight simulator. Gentle tap the left side and your craft does a barrel-roll, kick the top and you perform a wheelstand. One of the main issues was strength: feet are strong and clumsy, and it's quite easy to damage the input device by kicking too hard, or even injure oneself, and what about people with short legs ?

    I would see the combination of a touchpad-type sensor, pedals and/or rollers, and these kick sensors assuming they can be ridigly built. Mouse around with your feet, kick left/right to move back/forward in your browser, kick up for home. Use the pedals in Photoshop to affect brush size and pressure. Use rollers to scroll around. All this without moving your hands away from the keyboard.

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  55. JoyToKey by goathens · · Score: 1

    jopytokey or joy2key, I forget. when used in conjunction to any 10-20$ ps2-usb adapter, this utility converts the action buttons and directional keys to any mouse movement or key press you want. It also works for standard pc gamepads and joysticks.

    As a matter of fact, I already use this system for flipping through images, managing video players/editors, even webbrowsing on a ps2 controller. its alot easier on the arms and wrists than reaching for the mouse and having to keep the proper arm position when browsing. I could just as easily plug in a dance mat and perform alot of the same functions.

    of course, i think it is windows only.

  56. Don't bother with SenderID, it's patent-encumbered by Medievalist · · Score: 1

    SenderID is an attempt by Microsoft to hijack a working open standard called SPF. At this point it is effectively dead because of Microsoft's cynical manipulation of Meng Wong's altruistic attempt to help everyone.

    You will note I'm not normally a MS-basher, but in this case it's well deserved. SPF was ramping up into a system that would make email forgery impractical for spammers and virii, but Microsoft (with help from Yahoo and AOL, I guess) muddied the waters to the point where the anti-forgery community couldn't get a clear message out. Now SPF is still going, but very slowly, which is a shame since it is a practical thing you can do today that makes a real difference. If comcast (for one example) took the five freakin' minutes that would be required to publish SPF in their DNS, the world would be a better place for it.

    Implement SPF. Laugh at the rotting corpse of SenderID.

  57. Wow! The much vaunted MS Research team.... by WhiteWolf666 · · Score: 1

    does it again!

    Everyone always discusses the amazing stuff that comes out of MS Research. Why am I never, ever impressed?

    Perhaps they can design a "reclining throne-type waste receptacle that determines whether to delete or quarantine viruses based upon the volume of flatulence."

    MS Research produced vaporware, buzzwords, and toys. No interesting development, no pure-science research.

    IBM does loads of hard science.
    Apple has mastered product development.

    Why does MS, with a far, far larger budget, and arguable (or at one time) the brightest in the industry, research or produce nothing of any interest whatsoever. The only "innovation" I see coming out of MS is repackaged of other SUCCESFUL products that have already been brought to market; hell, they don't even repackage stuff that has failed for reasons of insufficent marketing.

    Snore.

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  58. That's a bad thing? by Firehed · · Score: 1
    So let me get this straight - in exchange for forcing me to exercise, I can sue Microsoft, the spammers, and the DDR manufacturers? Then I can go back to sitting down and my one-fingered approach, significantly richer? What's not to love?

    Oh yeah, I suppose that wouldn't work for me. I don't get spam. Ah well, back to reading only things I care about in my inboxes.

    Now if you had to input some DDR code to *send* spam, I'd love this. Nothing would entertain me more than blocking out spam because the once-entrepreneur can't dance. Translating MD5 checksums from dance patterns, while an incredible waste of processor time, would totally make my day.

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  59. Re:DDR Dance Pad? by SYSS+Mouse · · Score: 1

    Arcades will reappear when DDR SuperNOVA come out.

  60. John Titor by ModernGeek · · Score: 1

    According to time travelor john titor, there won't be a 2008 Olympics. You might as well give up now.

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  61. Re:Don't bother with SenderID, it's patent-encumbe by MrNougat · · Score: 1

    Fair enough, and I didn't know any of that.

    In any event, there's still legitimate work to be done, which is only mocked by implemeting what I shall now call "Whack-A-Spam" or "Spam Spam Revolution."

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  62. This idea is missing one crucial element. by OmgTEHMATRICKS · · Score: 1

    A program that takes the steps from DDR songs and turns the step notes that appear on screen and make each one turn into spam mail. Then you'll be 'stomping to the beat' and deleting spam with each note hit. Of course, you might accidentally delete good e-mail, but hey, you just make sure that trusted e-mail addresses aren't on there.

    Before you know it, Spam Spam Revolution is a worldwide sensation. I can see the newspaper classifieds now..

    Need talented DDR player to stomp out huge amounts of spam mail. Will pay for services.

  63. Fun with Joy2Mouse by benow · · Score: 1

    I did something similar a while back by running a ps2 ddr pad through a pc joystick converter. Set up joy2mouse joystick to mouse mapping with X then could use up/down/left/right to move the mouse. I mapped the bottom right and left corners to right and left click, so could move to select then double stamp. It worked well, with the only problem being that the chair legs got in the way. With a fixed mount chair and a slit in the pad, it would be another quite natural input method. Could be really useful in games or other vr immersion applications.

  64. I want a punch controller by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What I want is a punch controller so that I can beat the cr*p out of spam.

  65. All I need to know... by ectal · · Score: 1

    Will this thing work with my LapBoard?

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  66. Spam Stamping? by DaveJay · · Score: 1

    "Spam Stamping"? Isn't that the AOL/Yahoo! email initiative?

  67. The dumbest research ever... by bergeron76 · · Score: 1

    This has to be up there as one of the dumbest research projects ever.

    When will they get it? People are LAZY. They don't want to move their limbs to use software. It's the reason that "PowerGlove" interfaces failed, and it's the same reason this technology won't prevail.

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  68. Wrong Icon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If any story called for the "foot" icon, this one did!

  69. Did that 15 yeas ago by Scarabaeus · · Score: 1

    Back in 1991, ponton european media art lab. Piazza Virtuale. I used a Nintendo 4 X 4 pad, a "brick" interface from the nintendo connector to Apple's ADB on a Mac IIfx, and then a MacroMedia Director script to send serial commands to a telephone interface, which would drop (or "censor") callers to a TV show. Was whole lot of fun to jump around in that studio and literally "kick" out annoying callers.

  70. Good idea! by juanfgs · · Score: 1

    This is the first good Microsoft idea. :)

  71. Forget DDR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Michael Flatley - Lord of the Spam: The latest task force in spam management.