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Toys 'R' Us Wins Suit Against Amazon

theodp writes "Having prevailed in its bitter lawsuit against Amazon.com, Toys 'R' Us will create a new and independent Web site. A NJ judge found Amazon breached its agreement and ordered the two companies to sever their partnership Thursday. In a 131-page opinion, the judge termed Amazon's attempts to throw out e-mail evidence on the grounds that Internet communications lack reliability 'incomprehensible' and took a dim view of the testimony of some Amazon execs, including CEO Jeff Bezos' candor and 'rather childlike' explanations."

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  1. Re:Amazing! by Jack9 · · Score: 4, Informative

    We would be better off with pretty much any other company replacing them.
    See SCO, see Sony, see Infinium. You're a little bit ignorant to be playing the "I can run a company better" game. Plz suggest an equivalent company rather than making false blanket statements.

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  2. Re:Amazing! by xtracto · · Score: 2, Informative

    Darn, I did not know that amazon was that bad, anyway there are some other options like Barnes and Noble, and in some cases, if you look in google you can buy the book almost directly to the author/publisher.

    Now that you say all that, I remember sometime in the past my brother bought something like 5 CD's from Amazon (we have always bought CD's to them easly), unfortunately none of them arrived and after two months he tried to contact Amazon but of course he did not got any kind of reply, so his $100 were stolen by Amazon.

    After that, we changed to CDUniverse to buy CD's (we continue to preffer having the complete plastic product w/booklet, I personally rip them to OGG-6). Although I have not bought from them in a long looong time (it is sad, as I really want to buy some Cd's but, I find that they are too expensive...).

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  3. The REST of the story... by PoconoPCDoctor · · Score: 5, Informative

    While looking for work a year ago, I attended a job search seminar - one of the persons I met there was a former executive at Toys R Us - he briefly summed up what killed the Toys R Us business model - Walmart.

    Walmart simply sucked away any profit margins the Toys R Us Franchise once had - especially during the biggest toy buying season - Christmas.

    According to him, going online with Amazon was a desparation move to gain some profitability back from Walmart - managed by Toys R Us execs who had not a clue about managing an online store.

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  4. Re:Still up, though by itzmejoey · · Score: 3, Informative

    The dissolution will take months to resolve. No way in hell it's going to be an instantaneous "flip the switch and they're gone" type of thing. The amount that TRU brings in each month online is not pocket change (I deal quite a bit with their web-based transactions), so they're not about to just shut web sales down. They are, however, working on their own site, which should be up sometime this summer. I fully expect the partnership to continue until there's an alternate channel.

  5. Re: credability of internet evidence by larry+bagina · · Score: 4, Informative
    The judge can't just throw out a contract because its a bad deal for one side.

    It certain circumstances, where a contract is unfair, a judge can declare it invalid. However, in this case, the judge didn't "throw it out", he found that Amazon.com breached it.

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  6. Re:Amazing! by Aokubidaikon · · Score: 3, Informative

    I'm from The Netherlands. Once I ordered 4 DVDs from Amazon.com (US Site). When the DVDs failed to arrive I contacted Amazon. They send replacements immediately, no questions asked. Other than that, only good experiences with any Amazon site - and I've used four different ones in total.

  7. Re:Amazing! by freedom_india · · Score: 4, Informative
    I don't agree/believe you.

    My personal experience in ordering from Amazon from 3 continents (Australia/Asia(India)/North America(USA)) has been pretty good in past 6 years.

    I chose expedited shipping even if it costs more. I have ordered Star Trek Calendars from Sydney, Software Architecture books from USA and India, Audio CD's and Movie DVD from USA and each time they have delivered on time and correctly.

    The only time i faced an issue with them was their e-book store when i ordered Star Trek DS9 (post DS9 series) ebooks and i was somehow unable to download one of the three e-books.

    I complained to Amazon and they promptly refunded my credit card with the WHOLE bill amount for all 3 ebooks.

    I trust Amazon far better than Overstock; even though their items are slightly overpriced by 2-10 dollars. You get prompt delivery unlike Overstock.

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  8. End of the super bargains - Screw you Amazon by NXprime · · Score: 2, Informative

    I'm happy for Toys R Us because basically, and I think a lot of other people thought this too, is that I was buying toys from Amazon.com. So at least they get thier brand identity back. It was nice you can return the stuff to any Toys R Us store, though.

    This does suck in a way as it'll be the end of the crazy super bargain deals where Toys R Us has a 33% off each item (3 item minimum) and an Amazon.com coupon for an additional %20 off that amount. It was a killer deal back in September where I got the Star Wars Lego Imperial Star Destroyer (reg price $300) for like 55% off. I'm going to miss those kind of deals. *sniff* *sniff* :).....

    However when my apartment office recieved it and showed it to me I could actually see the lego box a few feet away since the box lid tape was completely torn off. That was a scary moment, but it wasn't damaged. They also sent another large lego set WITHOUT ANY BOX WHATSOEVER! Just slapped a sticker on it and shipped it.

    So you know, I hope to god Toys R Us can ship things better than these bastards. I don't ever want the apartment management seeing what I got. So good riddence to amazon.com. Oh and don't even get me started with how I bought japanese jpop cd bootlegs from their zShops and didn't know about it for 9 months!

    1. Re:End of the super bargains - Screw you Amazon by Aagfed · · Score: 2, Informative

      you can return the stuff to any Toys R Us store Actually, at least here in Ohio, Toys R Us is falling on exceptionally hard times. In a fifty-mile radius there 1 (one) TRU store open anymore, and only 1 (one) Babies R Us left. All of the others, at least the ones located near malls, have closed. Which actually makes me wonder: why is K B Toyz still around?

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  9. Re:Amazing! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    I am one of those evil people that buy used books and used music CD's only and Amazon's used selection blows away 99.997% of all used or bargian book stores in technical books.

    When I can get a book that is 3 months old and normally sells for over $59.95 for $1.99 with $4.99 shipping because the cover is a tad dirty I'm going to do it. Most technical books are horribly overpriced and the publishers know it. Am I hurting the little guy? Maybe. But I would rather buy my 5-10 SQL books for around $100.00 total than spend nearly $500.00 for them.

    Same goes for music. I have not paid more than $3.99 for a CD for over 3 years now because I refuse to buy new. And I get the joy of hurting the RIAA by buying used. :-)

  10. Re:OT: Buying local food by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    This is one of the most profound things Ive read on Slashdot :) I live in San Francisco and this discrepancy of Safeway being more expensive than the mom-and-pop has been bugging me for months. I almost never buy packaged goods, so I was trying to figure out a model why Safeway would be more expensive for everything, but this explanation makes perfect sense.