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Dealing With an Authoritarian Management Style In IT?

A New Cog asks: "My software development group, including my manager, was moved recently under another bigger group with different style of management. The new objective for the group is to 'speak as one person', meaning that the reasons behind management decisions are well understood and technical information is well communicated. At first, it seemed to be a very good thing to do. In reality, it was just a disguised authoritarian method of imposing information censorship and making sure there is no opposition within. We used to cooperate openly with each other and people from other groups, exchanging opinions and ideas, but after few schooling sessions in front of the bigger group, everyone is now quietly doing what they are told. Now, there is less and less satisfaction from the work I do. Is this just a sign of maturing organization and transitional pain is a necessary side effect in order to have a better future, or is this a sign of things to come. I feel that no true creativity is going to happen in place where motivation and productivity are affected by frustration and threat of loosing one's job? I like my job, but what can I do now in order to keep my satisfaction with it?"

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  1. You need a role model. by paulthomas · · Score: 4, Funny

    Might I suggest the BOFH?

  2. Look at the bright side ... by tomhudson · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I like my job, but what can I do now in order to keep my satisfaction with it?

    At least they haven't stopped you posting on slashdot ... yet.

  3. You're not doomed.. by Dynamoo · · Score: 4, Insightful
    You're not doomed.. for starters, you can always let off steam in private and off-the-record. Have a few drinks with your coworkers (and NOT the boss) once a week just to get it off your chest.

    As a management style, there will be two likely outcomes. One, it will actually succeed and bring positive things to the business - this will be a Good Thing. Probably more likely, your department will make some enormous mistakes because of the supression of internal debate and be reorganised.. in which case you need to make sure that you're out of the frame, or else this will be a very Bad Thing.

    Don't forget the ultimate sanction - if the place sucks, leave.

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    1. Re:You're not doomed.. by tomhudson · · Score: 2, Funny

      Have a few drinks with your coworkers (and NOT the boss) once a week just to get it off your chest.

      Nah, you should bring the boss ... this way, they pay for it! After all, they'll just write it off as a business expense anyway, and after a decade of drinking as part of the job, you can claim disability - work turned you into an alcoholic. Its the Amercian Way - sue your way to a happy retirement!

    2. Re:You're not doomed.. by lukewarmfusion · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This is also a good way of becoming more unhappy. Blowing off steam once in a while isn't necessarily, bad, but it also doesn't solve problems. It just makes it easier to cope with them.

      I suggest you talk to the boss - make sure he understands the atmosphere this is creating. Voice your concerns, but do it calmly and diplomatically. Also be ready to make constructive suggestions for improving the situation.

      If this fails, then you can suck it up, you can endanger your job by going over his head, or you can look for a new job. You're going to spend a good chunk of your life working - you should try to enjoy it.

    3. Re:You're not doomed.. by Aceticon · · Score: 4, Interesting
      I'd add the recomendation that you let it be known in circles outside your own group that:
      • Decisions are wholy taken by one person without participation of the other members of the group. This also means that responsability for screwups due to those decisions fully rests with that one person
      • Several members of the group (give no names) are (becoming) unsatisfied - ie moral is (becoming) low due to them not being in any way part of the decision process


      The point of "spreading the word" is to prepare for the future:
      • If the system being imposed in your group does not negativelly impact your group's productivity and some of the people you talked to still remember your words, then you can admit that your fears where unfounded after all. No harm done, nobody will care.
      • If the system does NOT work and the productivity of your group is lower because of it (especially in comparisson with other groups), then your message will be remembered by others outside your group and quite possibly everybody in that group except the decisionmaker will be in the clear.


      In this world a lot boils down to information control. Countless situations of bad leadership keep going on in perpetuity because the only source of information which those that have the power to stop those situations (higher level managers) have is the person responsible for the problem in the first place (for example, the group's manager/lead).
      When confronted with the problem by someone higher in the hierarchy, the causer of the problem will commonly blame something/somebody else for it if he/she believes they can get away with it.

      Thus the point of this technique is to make sure that, when the shit hits the fan, higher level decision makers get to know exactly how and why the shit got there in the first place.

      When this is done really well, if indeed the decisionmaker is unqualified and/or a serial offender, it often results in said person being at the very least striped of said responsibilities, sometimes shelved and in some cases (i'm talking really incompetent here) even fired.

      I've used this twice in the past to get rid of really bad managers, so i know for sure it works.

      Also:

      If in the meanwhile you get really frustrated with the way things are going i sugest you start looking internaly (within the company) for another group. If that doesn't work start looking outside the company.
    4. Re:You're not doomed.. by C10H14N2 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      This management style has no "soft skills." Suggestions that it is flawed are invariably met with contempt. It is not the same as someone who has simply become obsessed with micro-managing, who you can take aside and say "hey, let it go." Someone with a KITA attitude is only going to respond to this sort of tactic with, well, a KITA.

      Personally, I'd just leave. I'm getting too old to put up with that crap. However, I've found the best way to ease that pain is just to accept it, deal with it and not take any of it personally--and document the living hell out of everything. If you do your job as you are told and can prove it, these types back down. They're looking for weakness and any excuse to shift blame from themselves to you. ANYTHING in the "soft skills" category with these types will be viewed as a perfect weakness to label you "not a team player" or "does not work well under supervision" or just, "does not work here anymore."

      So, either leave or find a way to play by the rules... and if that means throwing back a scotch after work, so be it.

    5. Re:You're not doomed.. by KDan · · Score: 2, Informative

      That can also be a good way to test whether the boss is a good one. A good boss knows that he/she should invite his/her team out for drinks, buy a couple of rounds, and then excuse him/herself - so that the team can vent whatever they feel like venting.

      Daniel

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    6. Re:You're not doomed.. by j-turkey · · Score: 2, Insightful
      You're not doomed.. for starters, you can always let off steam in private and off-the-record. Have a few drinks with your coworkers (and NOT the boss) once a week just to get it off your chest.

      Actually, I'd recommend against this. If your position carries any kind of senority, complaining in front of your coworkers is pretty unprofessional, and will only serve to tear your group apart and make your new boss' job more difficult.

      If you have real concerns about your group and want to do the professional thing, then you have two options: 1: Bring up your concerns with your new boss or 2: Find another job.

      Anything else is petty, unprofessional, unfair to the new boss, and may create an unfriendly office culture. If you choose to leave, remember that it is never a good idea to burn your bridges behind you. Always leave on good faith, even if you believe that you employer is not acting in good faith or unfairly.

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    7. Re:You're not doomed.. by fdisk3hs · · Score: 3, Insightful

      `We used to cooperate openly with each other and people from other groups, exchanging opinions and ideas, but after few schooling sessions in front of the bigger group, everyone is now quietly doing what they are told.`
       
      If you are unsatisfied, you should continue the discussions that you are used to that were so satisfying. If you get "schooled" in front of the group, you will survive. They will probably get tired of "schooling" you quickly, as in not more than twice. If you don't give in, what can they do? You're not "causing problems", just doing your job in an open way.
       
      This does show signs of serious communication problems, which in relationships or business usually end up with a parting of ways, in my experience. So what? I left a job where I was written up for doing work that had been PRE-APPROVED by management. I took my lumps and had no trouble defending myself, since I had taken care to document everything. But working for folks that do such things is like slamming your hand in the door on purpose. I resigned and went back to school at age 32, and now after two years I have landed a job that I would rather have had all along. You don't HAVE to live the way they want you to, there are choices.
      Peace dude.

    8. Re:You're not doomed.. by edward.virtually@pob · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Bad advice. Letting off steam "in private and off-the-record" just gives your co-workers something to stab you in the back with. I speak from experience. Keep your mouth shut around ANYONE who might be able to use your words against you later.

      Better advice: Be glad you have a high paying, physically easy job. Remember that since you have no power over the Big Choices, you are not responsible for them. As long as you do not alienate any managers, you have no need to fear reorg. It's a fact of life in most companies, just like the stupid PHB management that causes them.

      Lastly, ignore advice to leave a job because you don't like it. It's usual to dislike your job. If it was enjoyable, they wouldn't be paying you to do it. At any rate, NEVER leave a job unless you have another one signed and sealed -- unless you want to live in the street. You don't get unemployment if you quit, so don't.

  4. Boss Style by Stormcrow309 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Usually it is just the sign of the management style of your manager. The recommendations I could make is to first have an upto date resume. Second, every time you send recommendations and analysis to your manager, do it via email. Third, every time your manager talks to you, send him or her an email with a synopsis of what was discussed and thanking them for their time. Fourth, ask yourself if it is worth it. Finally, read Winning, every person who works in a corporate enterprize needs to read this.

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  5. Screw it, I've got karma to burn: by Vengeance · · Score: 4, Funny

    Working for the Bush administration, are we?

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  6. Adios, goodbye and see ya later! by qualico · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Personally, whenever I've been in your situation, I self destruct.
    Adios, goodbye, see ya later, so long and thanks for all the fish.

    Life is too short to work in a job where you have to compromise whatever gives you joy.

    Creativity is your most valuable asset and some company out there is not only going to recognize and encourage it, but reward it.

    I'd have to say it's time for you to look for more fertile ground.

    1. Re:Adios, goodbye and see ya later! by usrbinallen · · Score: 2, Interesting

      We all have to do things at work that seem stupid to us. There are an infinite number of reasons for them. If they are temporary and not unethical, OK.

      I've worked for both good and bad organizations that used the information control approach. The difference is the target.

      If it's to improve something, you can usually see the point and can get around it in particular circumstances, like talking to the group next door or your direct users. You can also have discussions among youselves aimed at getting the boss to buy in and use his political skills to help out.

      If the point is to stifle your voice, speak up and then leave. Go for internal transfers first. There are other groups in the company that don't like this treatment any better than you do. If the "manager" leaves, test the waters to see if you aren't going, too, but be ready to go.

      Companies that don't respect their workers don't deserve our respect. In IT, we are in a far better place than auto workers and airplane mechanics. Thank your lucky stars and take advantage of it.

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  7. I'd note.. by Otter · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't want to give advice about your particular situation without knowing more about it, but -- presenting a single position to the outside and allowing internal debate aren't contradictory. When a decision is made to not do things your way, not publically undercutting the plan is professionalism, not censorship. It's when you can't question things internally that there's something badly broken.

  8. Difficult choices by hrbrmstr · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I really do not know how large organizations in the United States survive in the new global economy where emerging markets have businesses that aren't making themselves in the traditional molds (one might argue they aren't surviving, but I digress).

    Your situation is indicative of most departments in large US organizations. "Don't rock the boat."; "Just do your work."; "We can't give *them* that info, they might look better than *us*." Those are all sentiments that are most likely not spoken, but implied in daily interactions with management. I don't believe it's due to malice. I truly belive it's managers being afraid to look "stupid" in front of others.

    If you try to stand out in the crowd and continue open dialogues, collaboration and information dissemination you'll garner the support and respect of your peers, but you will not advance much beyond your current position. You stand more to lose by not speaking up (the whole department will be outsourced due to lack of productivity) than you do by being a leader (you are unlikely to get axed for attempting to make things better...lawyers would have a field day with your case).

    Sadly, there is little satisfaction in IT jobs in large organizations these days. You'll need to go find a small company or derive work enjoyment from non-employment activities.

    That's probably not what you wanted to hear, but unless there's a "miracle post" in this topic with a real, attainable solution, I suspect you'll get many similar replies.

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    1. Re:Difficult choices by LunaticTippy · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I'd like to second this advice.

      I've put up with a lot in large corporations with their moving cheese and other management fads. Try despair.com for some demotivational support - it helps to laugh about it.

      I'm finally happy at a small plant where I am the IT department. Lower pay, but life is too short to be miserable most of your day. Oddly I have more free cash now than I did making 2x and hating my life.

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    2. Re:Difficult choices by Karl+Cocknozzle · · Score: 2, Informative
      Sadly, there is little satisfaction in IT jobs in large organizations these days. You'll need to go find a small company or derive work enjoyment from non-employment activities.

      Its not all sunshine and roses in the small shops, though. True you definitely get to make a difference in the way things go, but to do so will require achingly long hours at relatively-low pay. In the end, you'll be just as disillusioned because your employer is getting this Class A service from you at bush-league pricing... It will only take a few years of one and two percent salary raises to realize your fortunes lie elsewhere.

      And that isn't always a bad thing. I view my work in this small shop as hard-core education... I've been in this business for eight years now, but I've learned more in two years here than I did in the previous six years elsewhere. In a lot of ways, once you realize that "Mega-Corporate IT" really sucks to work in, and "bush-league" IT is rewarding but pays no money, you'll find yourself motivated to find the crossroads of those two extremes--satisfying work that pays enough that you might one day have a hope of retiring.

      Now, I'm using the skills I'm learning here and the contacts I'm picking up so that in a year or so I can start my own consulting shop. I've already got a few clients on the side that I do things for, and I'm working steadily to build my stable of paying customers. I definitely see where being the service shop is where the real money is at in IT, and consequently, where the really smart people will end up pooling in the next few years/decades, if they aren't already in there.

      My job as network engineer won't be heading to India--it requires too much on-site hands-on stuff, but I'd still like to make more than the assistant manager at McDonald's does, maybe have the opportunity to retire when I reach 65ish, instead of "semi-retiring" which means "I'm still working part-time but I take social security." I see the entreprenuership route as the only valid option to get there from here in IT at this point, aside from getting an MBA, holing up in some corporate IT shop and keeping my head down for the next three decades.
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  9. It can be missunderstood by Total_Wimp · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Some people have claimed that is my style when I'm just trying to avoid whole projects springing up that are taking the wrong direction and doing the wrong thing. "Speaking as one person" helps make sure projects actaully meet the needs of the user community.

    The user community is very sensitive to change. If one of the admins sets up something "special" for an end user, what are some of the things that can go wrong?

    If one of my admins sets up a rogue FTP site "to help a user" then when I find out it's not secure and shut it down, I have to deal with dissatified end user. Then, sometimes, the admin (and the user) will turn around and call me the heavy.

    But let's say I leave it up and make sure that admin secures it. Then a whole culture springs up around this FTP site when the server isn't really suitable for the purpose (no redundency, etc). These people ignore, or maybe are ignorant of our corporate HTTP file transfer site which is purpose built for five 9s of file transfer uptime. When the FTP site goes down, everybody loses. I do, my admins do, and most of all, the end-users do.

    So basically, I can be a hard ass about admins running around doing their own thing. But have the admins bothered to think about why that is? I know it's a fun part of IT to play and be creative. I highly value very creative people on my staff. But at least come to management and make sure your creativity doesn't conflict with another objective. Try to understand the conflict. Use your creativity a little more to make sure your project can avoid the conflict ("hey boss, why don't we just put FTP services on the HTTP file transfer server?"). Then guess what? We're all "speaking as one voice" but you get your creativity too.

    1. Re:It can be missunderstood by renoX · · Score: 2, Insightful

      > If one of my admins sets up a rogue FTP site "to help a user" then when I find out it's not secure and shut it down

      Well, why don't you warn them before that they have made something not acceptable and find a replacement solution before 'shutting it down' (or at least warning them before doing so).
      If you loose say a 1Mi$ contract because you stopped the rogue FTP site without warning, I'd find normal that *you'd* be fired (not the other guys).

      And finding a replacement solution is not necessarily having 10 custom FTP site around. Also you have to ask yourself, if the admin made a rogue FTP site, maybe your IT service is not responsive enough to users needs?

      Note that all this doesn't prevent providing a warning to the admin who did it, that he will be fired next time he does this kind of thing (well if he did this without trying to use the 'normal' way, if he did and your services were too slow to react, well that's your damn fault, don't put the blame on others).

  10. A Couple of Possibilities by richg74 · · Score: 3, Insightful
    There are a couple of possibilities here, in terms of what the management is trying to achieve:

    • Avoid being blindsided by unofficial or ad hoc projects that, while possibly fine in isolation, conflict with some larger goal. (Security policy, which other posters have mentioned, is an example of this.)
    • Control information for PR or propaganda purposes, to allow only "favourable" information to be given outside the group. (Think political "spin doctors".)

    It's hard to tell, from the limited amount you're able to post here, which case applies. It may be productive to suggest a conversation with the group and management to try to clarify this, if you can figure out a non-confrontational way of suggesting that. (Just the reaction to such a suggestion might tell you quite a bit.)

    The first objective is a reasonable one; perhaps it's just the approach or implementation that's ham-fisted. If you think that's the case, then perhaps you and your co-workers can come up with some ideas that will help toward the objective.

    On the other hand, if this is a classic "information is power" political strategy, then you basically have to evaluate whether the good points of staying with the group you like outweigh the bad points of working for a jerk. (Do keep in mind, though, that jerks sometimes don't last -- keep your head down.)

  11. What bright side? by BrokenHalo · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Is this just a sign of maturing organization and transitional pain is a necessary side effect in order to have a better future, or is this a sign of things to come.

    It's a sign of things to come. Start putting feelers out for another job already. Take it from someone who has learned this the hard way...

  12. Re:Shape up or Ship out! by sionki · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Managers do set the tone of a company but good managers listen to their employees and are willing to discuss how things are done. I've been working for a large state agency in the US for the past nine years and for four of those years, we had a CIO who only wanted "Yes" men around him.. I bucked enough from it to not be included in that group and gained the rep of a rebel. Then we got a new CIO in who had a completely different approach and I get along great with him. He sees the value of listening to new ideas, incorporating the ones that are viable and the IT Department has been more productive because of that.

    Sometimes dedication to a job means sticking with it even when you don't like what is going on. Sometimes it even turns out for the beter.

  13. "make. people. stop. calling." by dpilot · · Score: 2, Interesting

    When did William Shatner do a stint in the ISP business?

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  14. What To Do by ajs318 · · Score: 2, Funny
    1. Join a trade union.
    2. Wait statutory 24 hours.
    3. Order your "Strike In a Box" pack. This contains everything you need to organise an effective industrial dispute:
      • 200 blank ballot forms seeking approval for industrial action
      • 200 pre-crossed ballot forms approving industrial action
      • 20 assorted placards
      • 2 loud-hailers
      • CD of protest chants, songs and slogans (incl. "Maggie Thatcher Has One, Ian McGregor Is One" and "Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells, Jingle All the Way, I'd Sooner Be a Picket Than a Scab on Christmas Day")
      • 200 matching song sheets
      • 1 Easy-Light Brazier
      • 500m. "Official Picket Line - Do Not Cross" tape
      • 1 Order form for additional items incl. extra ballot forms, flying pickets (available by the coachload) &c.
      • 1 voucher for support from local Socialist Worker
    4. Go on strike
    5. Claim strike pay
    NB. You must become a member of a Trade Union at least 24 hours in advance of any industrial action. You will not be eligible for strike pay unless a ballot has been conducted and voted in favour of action. A picket line is not official unless a brazier is kept alight at all times.
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  15. Re:moving cheese and other management fads by LunaticTippy · · Score: 2, Insightful
    You're correct. I think it is an annoying and obvious book full of puffed-up advice, aimed at people with a 4th-grade education. I'd have no problem with it if it hadn't become so trendy. I had a job I liked that got bought by an evil tulsa-based corporation. The new management kept trying to convince me that my job hadn't become far less enjoyable, they had simply moved my cheese and I had better get used to it.

    I am fine at adjusting to change. I think it is crucial to be honest about change. If change makes things worse, it is imperative to recognize and express it. Stupid cheese book doesn't mean things aren't going down the drain.

    At the denver library they bought a copy for every single employee and had special "cheese moving" parties. Complete with actual cheese. To introduce draconian budget cuts. Morons.

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  16. Google? by otis+wildflower · · Score: 2, Informative

    Sounds like the start of the slippery slope that most small companies transitioning up tend to do.. It's a symptom of insecure (and thus poor) management.

    There _is_ a hard balance between 'too much information' interfering with a group's concentration, vs. the kind of open communication that is constructive and can lead to 'your chocolate is in my peanut butter' serendipity moments.

    Good, confident management will define expectations for work within and outside the group. It has the confidence of the group to be the point of contact for official communications with other groups. It has the confidence to not worry about informal communications outside the group. It has the confidence to know when it's wrong (for changing circumstances, mistaken assumptions, etc) and change course, and give credit where credit is due. A great manager has great people who do great things, and gets credit by giving it appropriately.

    If a company undercuts that, that company is ultimately fucked, unless it has a monopoly.