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British Rail's Flying Saucer

Dynamoo writes "The Register is carrying a story about a patent for a fusion powered spacecraft filed by British Rail in the 1970s. While the concept may seem silly for a public railway, it seems that the British Rail Research Division employed a large number of aircraft engineers who presumably had some spare time between projects such as the Advanced Passenger Train."

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  1. Fluxcapacitor by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Funny

    Unfortunately, the Fluxcapacitor has already been patented (Fig. 1 & 2).

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  2. Other patents... by gowen · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Pedrick bombarded his former employers with legendarily screwball designs in the 60s and 70s - one of which was a catflap fitted with a colour sensor to allow his cat Ginger through, to the exclusion of his neighbour's black moggie.
    Screwball? That's freaking genius!
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    1. Re:Other patents... by PFI_Optix · · Score: 4, Interesting

      What's more interesting is a system I saw years ago that was supposed to recognize whether a cat was carrying something in its mouth (like a mouse) by looking at its profile. No more "presents" left for you to step on when you get out of bed in the morning.

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    2. Re:Other patents... by Zarhan · · Score: 4, Informative

      What's more interesting is a system I saw years ago that was supposed to recognize whether a cat was carrying something in its mouth (like a mouse) by looking at its profile. No more "presents" left for you to step on when you get out of bed in the morning.

      You mean Flo control is patented? (See picture on page 2, ie. click next)

  3. Prior Art! by TripMaster+Monkey · · Score: 4, Funny


    This design was made in 1965.

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  4. British Rail by pubjames · · Score: 5, Interesting


    Is this the same British Rail that can't even keep a train running on time? What chance have they got with a flying saucer?

    "British Rail would like to announce that the 17.34 UFO to Mars has been delayed due to a slight wind and a few leaves blowing in the air..."

    1. Re:British Rail by 91degrees · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Leaning over to take corners at speed is cool unless it throws everyones coffee into the isle

      It didn't do that. The ride was very smooth (when the tilt mechanism worked). Too smooth actually. People got motion sickness from going round a corner without feeling like they were going round a corner.

      You used to be able to see one rotting in the sidings at Crewe railway station.

      It was still there last August.

      Some of the technology made it to other trains. Sadly, not the tilting mechanism .

    2. Re:British Rail by Bazzalisk · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Actualy ...

      The tilting system worked fine, and didn't throw people's coffee around - it was practicly every other experimental system on the train that failed. Virgin trains are now running a tilting train service between London and Birmingham ... which makes me seasick, but everybody else seems to be happy with it.

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    3. Re:British Rail by 91degrees · · Score: 5, Funny

      The BR time dilation effects may be useful for interstellar travel.

  5. Daedalus by Phanatic1a · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "The thermonuclear fusion will take place in a series of pulses, each pulse being triggered by laser energy, and/or energetic particles reflected from a previous pulse. The system will be arranged so that the fusion process will decay after each pulse so that the stability of the system is maintained."

    Pulsed inertial confinement fusion is just a fancy version of Orion, and is what the British Interplanetary Society used in their Daedalus spacecraft concept. Given the 1973 date, the same year as the start of Project Daedalus, I imagine the 'inventor' was a member of the Society.

  6. This solves nothing. by harriet+nyborg · · Score: 4, Funny

    The fusion powered spacecraft is delayed due to a signal failure at Camden Town. Passengers are advided to board the next fusion power spacecraft and change at Saturn.

  7. Little Green Men by digitaldc · · Score: 4, Funny

    "The thermonuclear fusion will take place in a series of pulses, each pulse being triggered by laser energy, and/or energetic particles reflected from a previous pulse. The system will be arranged so that the fusion process will decay after each pulse so that the stability of the system is maintained."

    After using the saucer, you are so full of radiation that you will begin to glow green.
    This is helpful when trying to reproduce all aspects of 'alien' saucer lore, as well as to scare the crap out of your neighbours.

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  8. To be fair, all the goverments were to blaim by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 5, Insightful
    A rail network isn't cheap and it doesn't make money. It is part of the infrastructure however that countries need to others can use them to make money.

    Lets just take a small rail network like the london underground. It is hideously expensive to build and maintain. There are only two ways to operate it.

    See it as a commercial company. Nice idea but doesn't work. Why? Because commercial companies A got to earn their costs, their future investments and a bit extra. But how can you do this when you run a company that has to maintain loss making lines?

    What?

    Well it is simple, it is very easy to make money on the mainlines during peak times. Then the trains are packed and you can easily get your money even with reasonable ticket prices. But how many people would use those mainlines at peak times if there werent any feeder lines at non-peak times?

    Simply put, to get on the mainline I need to take a bus from my house that is half empty. No way that bus makes a profit BUT if it wasn't running I would have no use for the mainline.

    Think of it like this, a supermarket that only sells butter and cheese and jam and peanut butter but NOT bread wouldn't be much use now would it?

    A rail network, or public transport in general will always be spending the money it makes on those non-profit lines. The moment you try to cut money by getting rid of unprofitable lines you gut the service meaning fewer people can use it.

    This practice of cutting unprofitable lines and thereby cutting off whole parts of the country from public transport started long ago. The more it happens the less people can rely on public transport, the less they will use it, the more unprofitable lines you will have, and so on.

    Only in those countries where public transport is seen as an vital part of the infrastructure still have a working system. Spending billions on keeping it all running year in and year out however is very difficult and it is very tempting for a goverment to just cut the budget for a term and hope it will all keep to gether and next term there will be money for the back maintenance. Off course that never happens and so the system is neglected for decades until people die.

    Nothing new, the dutch railnetwork is going through similar problems, our politicians asure us that the we won't have the same problems as the brits and the fact that recently we have had a whole series of accidents is just coincendence.

    Who is to blaim? People that believe in tax cuts. A goverment tax cut is like your landlord saying he will charge you 100 less. Just now you got to pay the elec bill of 200 yourselve. I never seen a tax cut that wasn't offset by an increase somewhere else.

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