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Sony's PS3 Strategy Brilliant or Insane?

1up's Jeremy Parish has a piece wondering out loud about the sanity of Sony's PS3 strategy. From the article: "The veil of mystery surrounding the PS3 is downright maddening, and a little worrying. Consider that by March 2000, the company had already set the PlayStation 2's October 26th release date in stone. Yet here in March 2006, Sony has only been willing to commit to a 'spring 2006' launch for its latest console. Less than ten days from winter's end and gamers are left scraping together scraps of conflicting information trickling from the company's various divisions to try and get a sense of the bigger picture." We may find out which side of the coin they're on tomorrow; The current rumour is there will be some sort of big announcement about Sony's next-gen console on the 15th.

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  1. I vote for "Non-existant" by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    So far their "strategy" has been about as vague as their hardware. I'll comment when I can actually SEE either.

    -Eric

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  2. Days are Numbered by Nerdfest · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No matter how brilliant they may be, or how badly they screw up, I wouldnt expect this to be the end of the PS. Fanboy support alone should get them near at least a break even point. I think their biggest threat these days would be the hype over the xbox360. If MS can get a major hardware volume release, combined with a couple of good games just before Sony deploys they should be able to slap down the Sony marketing a bit.

    In any case, it should be interesting.

  3. Problem = BluRay by the+computer+guy+nex · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The BR drive is slowly killing the PS3. Sony chose to push their new format rather than do what is good for the gamer.

    This "poor man's blu-ray" will not fit into any market. Home theater enthusiasts will buy a professional HD player and the average gamer could care less.

    What is making this decision so horrible is the fact that these Blu-Ray drives will push the PS3 to around double the price of the 360 even when selling at a considerable loss. The Cell processor, while powerful, in the real world doesn't have much on 3 3.2 ghz processors (besides a lot of $$$). Sony has an advantage over Microsoft in terms of "branding," but Sony has made a ton of poor architectural decisions.

    1. Re:Problem = BluRay by spyrochaete · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Don't underestimate the nationalism of Japan. They've snubbed 2 generations of Xbox now and will gobble up the PS3 even if it's the same price as a computer. PS2 is perhaps the sole reason the DVD platform took off worldwide as the console was the cheapest player on the market at the time. Even if Sony takes a loss per unit on its consoles they can chalk it up as an investment in licensing of their new distribution medium.

      I'm not saying Sony can do no wrong (duh.. rootkits) but I think you're underestimating them. I think they have better than a 50/50 chance vs. Xbox due to their stranglehold on Asia.

    2. Re:Problem = BluRay by Rydia · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And even if you go with the nationalism aspect, you still have a little Japanese called Nintendo. What is absolutely insane is that people are discounting the #2 worldwide company in their strongest market for... why? I can't think of any reason why this should be considered MS v. Sony, despite all the marketing and everyone's dogged insistence that it is because everyone says so.

  4. Neither Brilliant nor Insane by Microlith · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It is simply inevitable.

    All Sony has to do is turn out a powerful console equivalent to the xbox360 and sell it at the same price the xbox360 was at during release (make no mistake, this was on average $800+ after the console plus all the force-bundled crap) and they're set. Sony has 2 generations of backwards compatibility to ride on, games coming out still for the PS2 (see Final Fantasy XII, the be-all and end-all of console moving franchises,) and the fact that Playstation is still a very powerful brand.

    The XBOX360's lead time has proven to be little advantage, as Microsoft seems to have lost in Japan entirely as a result of not having crap for games available, and is having supply issues abroad. 6 months will not make the xbox360 any better unless better games come out for it, and they don't have any console-moving titles coming out save Halo 3, and that won't help them in Japan.

  5. Insanity by thefirelane · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This sums it up nicely, we'll know which it is only after the release

    Bruce Feirstein:
    The distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success.

  6. Article misses the obvious explanation by Andy_R · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sony have known for a long time that the Xbox 360 would be first to market. Rather than watch their potential customers make a huge investment in a competing system they are obviously going to do whatever it takes to make buyers wait for the PS3, which means constantly dangling the carrot of a possible huge announcement in the near future infront of the gaming public... which is exactly what they are doing. Hardly 'brilliant' or 'insane', their strategy strikes me more as 'bleeding obvious'.

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  7. Come on, Honestly. by casualsax3 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    If I have to read three articles a day about the PS3 until it launches in December or whenever - I'm going to stop reading Slashdot. The fact that there is no news about it means there should be no headlines or articles about it... am I right? Read this submission - it's an story about how we might get an story with substance tomorrow.

    There is an article here practically every day that has a headline basically asking "has Sony lost its mind?"

    Everybody seems to be missing the fact that the PS2 outsold the 360 in January. Sony does not need to rush to market with the PS3 when there are still some KILLER titles coming out this year. I'm not trying to be a troll, honest, but please stop posting these insufferable articles.

  8. Any advertising is good advertising by BecomingLumberg · · Score: 3, Insightful
    The adage is true. Consider this: Despite the fact that nobody outside of sony has even seen a game run, the PS3 gets more headline coverage than Xbox360, which can be bought today. I believe sony has always wanted a release a year later than microsoft, since they have always made PS3 out to be something 'worth waiting for'... its the same reason your parents get you to be good for Christmas.

    My vote is for brilliant. Sony controls the media, so sony controls the market.

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    1. Re:Any advertising is good advertising by adisakp · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Consider this: Despite the fact that nobody outside of sony has even seen a game run, the PS3 gets more headline coverage than Xbox360, which can be bought today.

      I guess nobody went to E3 in May of 2005 and saw the PS3 Unreal demo: http://ps3.ign.com/articles/614/614712p1.html

      When it comes to PS3, You obviously don't know what you're talking about. Plenty of people outside of Sony have seen code running on a PS3. There were hundreds of developers at PS3 devcon a couple months ago and we've had PS3 devkits for months before that as well. Sony will also be showing PS3 demos and tutorials for those people going to GDC in San Jose next week. Go there and see a PS3 in action for yourself. You can still sign up at http://www.gdconf.com/

      The 2005 E3 Demo info, the PS3 devcon, the release of devkits, and the upcoming GDC talks have all been publicly mentioned on a variety of game-related websites. Maybe you should check the facts before you say no one else has seen code run on the PS3.

  9. Is lack of a strategy a strategy? by diabolus_in_america · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I think we are seeing what happens when products try to be all things to all people. The muddled information about the PS3's launch is understandable because everything else about the system is so muddled. How much will it cost? Will it be backwards-compatible? I've not seen answers to those are very simple questions yet.

    And I think the reason we don't know the answers to the simple questions is because Sony hasn't yet answered all the hard questions internally. It just doesn't seem like there is a solid plan or a road map for the PS3 other than being "faster." Why are they using blu-ray? What is the H-D plan for the PS3? Why are they using bluetooth? What are their online plans? I should not have to dig through countless gaming sites to find out these details.

    I think Sony has taken a lot of things for granted with the PS3. It could be that the installed base of the PS2 has clouded their thinking. But Sega proved that a next-gen machine had to have more than just technical superiority to succeed (and they were first to market with the Dreamcast!)

    Sony needs to get the public informed about the PS3, and they need to do it soon. Else, the XBOX 360 may do to the PS3 what the PS2 did to the Dreamcast.

  10. Re:Could be the end of playstation... by jusdisgi · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Between the awesome lead XBox 360 has been able to gain given its earlier release date, this may be the end of Playstation. The next-gen Playstation sounds like it is a potentially superior product. But on one side, there's XBox 360 and the potential release of Halo 3. On the other side, theres Nintendo Revolution and its very unique controller. If Playstation doesn't find something to set it apart from these other two consoles, I believe Playstation's days are numbered.

    Class excercise:

    1)Replace every instance of "xbox 360" with "dreamcast."
    2)Replace every instance of "revolution" with "gamecube."
    3)Replace game references with similar titles available for dreamcast just prior to PS2 launch.
    4)Go searching for the resultant string in the archives of gamer forums and see how many matches you can come up with.

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  11. Re:Could be the end of playstation... by jusdisgi · · Score: 2, Insightful

    True enough...MS is a lot stronger competitor than Sega was with the DC. And the other reply to you is correct; my primary objective was to point out the foolishness of the GP saying "this looks like the end of the playstation." I mean, the PS2 is still the top-selling console by a huge margin....it seems at the very least a bit counterintuitive to be reading Sony's eulogy.

    But also, I think it is worth noting some of the parallels. The biggest one is failure in Japan....consoles (historically) just flat don't do well when the Japanese don't buy them in large numbers.

    And then of course there's the counterpoint to the ridiculous conclusion drawn by the author of this article. He says:

    But if Sony's really hoping to make Dreamcast 2.0 a reality, now would be a very good time to change tactics. Relying on obfuscation and hype is only likely to work once, especially for gamers who believed tall promises about the PS2 Emotion Engine's ability to present the most impressive game worlds imaginable but actually received a system only moderately more powerful than the Dreamcast.

    This strikes me as completely ass-backwards. After all, it did completely annihilate the DC. Which is to say that a "moderately more powerful" system was plenty. Is this author suggesting that everyone should have just bought the Dreamcast? Or is he suggesting that this time, knowing that the PS2 was only a bit more powerful than the DC, that gamers won't be "fooled again" and will just buy the 360? None of that sounds reasonable to me. It seems to me that a gamer who was looking at history would say to himself, "Well, the last time Sony brought its console out later and said it'd be faster....it was only a bit faster, but the competing product was stone-dead within a couple months. I probably ought to hold out for the Sony console, lest my 360 lose dev support overnight."

    Now, obviously, that's not going to happen; MS was willing to buy game developers left and right to get game support for the first Xbox, so even in the worst case they can do that again. And they aren't likely to have to anyway. But my point is that it seems silly to me to suggest that bringing out a faster, better console later "won't work again" because last time it wasn't faster enough. Right?

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  12. Re:In TFA by drewmca · · Score: 2, Insightful

    what is a decent game in your opinion? People need to calm the f down and to remember the difference between "I don't like a game" and "it's a bad game". As another poster put it, the games have scored consistently high, remarkably so for a launch. Compare these games to Smugglers Run, Timesplitters, and Kessen that came out with the PS2. Oooh, and Summoner too.

    Also, for the poster who said they're all sequels, who cares? You think the PS3 isn't going to have the same issue? Or the Revolution? Any launch is going to have a bunch of sequels because they're proven sellers. There will also be a couple of original games, and usually they aren't much good unless your company's name is Nintendo. But the 360 did have Condemned and Kameo, both of which are new franchises and both of which are pretty darn good games.

    I just don't understand it when people have such an agenda when they write about games and consoles. It feels like the cold war, but more ridiculous.

  13. PS3 - Drowned By Sony's Boat Anchors by Kamalot · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sony has created the Playstation 3 (PS3), not as a game machine, but as a vessel to float the company into new lands. They are burdening the system with a new movie format (BluRay) unheard of levels of digital rights management for music and video, Memory Sticks and more.

    The results are already starting to show. A year ago, Sony promised to launch the PS3 in Spring 2006. Instead, they waited till Spring 2006 to announce that they won't be launching the system until November 2006, in Japan , with other regions perhaps as soon as Spring 2007. Why? Digital Rights Management issues with the upcoming BluRay format.

    The other divisions of Sony are dragging the PS3 down. The Playstation Portable (PSP) suffers from the same illness; too many hands in the basket. The PSP was designed around a slow-loading UMD format for distribution of movies which makes the machine less than ideal for game playing. Compared to ROM cartridges, UMDs are too slow loading and consume too much battery time. They make the machine more fragile and introduce problems with additional moving parts. In short, they are a sacrifice to the movie industry arm of Sony; giving up on the optimal game experience for the opportunity to sell you movies you probably already own on DVD.

    The delays brought about by making compromises to the core functions of the system will put a great strain on Sony. Currently, their ark is full of holes and loaded with baggage. The flood waters rise. How many gamers will wait until this time next year in order to pick up a PS3 when Xbox 360 games are available today and are getting excellent review scores? How many will pass up the Revolution this holiday season when it is affordable and fun? How high will the waters rise before Sony can launch the ark?

    Will it float?

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