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Windows XP on Intel Mac Confirmed

niemassacre writes "According to winxponmac.com, the contest has been won - nearly $14k to narf2006 for submitting a working solution to dual-booting Windows XP and Mac OS X on an Intel-Powered mac. A thread on osx86project.org has confirmations from several testers that the procedure works on the 17" iMac, the Mac mini, and the MacBook Pro. Many sets of pictures and videos (such as this installation video) are floating around (and mentioned in the thread). The solution itself should be posted soon." Poit! Congratulations to narf.

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  1. Wow by 2.7182 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now I can dual boot a good and bad OS. (I am not saying which is which!)

  2. Aaaargh by BeardsmoreA · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Every time there's anything on this the first comments are along these lines. Fine! You don't want to play games or do any Windows devlopment - other people do! And this lets them. The end.

  3. an end to speculation by thelost · · Score: 5, Interesting

    and a amssive congratulation to Narf. This was an exciting contest to watch develop and definately brought out a lot of talent. Now the question in my mind is will this have any affect on the new intel-mac sales; Will people be keen to buy them because they can dual boot windows/mac os x on the same machine? Recently I bought a mac-mini (before the intel ones went live sadly) and I have to say, having used winxp for years after two weeks of my mac-mini on a KVM I'm just about ready to move over. I can't actually imagine many reasons for me wanting a PC any more. I'm not into gaming like I used to be, and mac os x is such a lovely user experience. I admit it, i'm a born again apple fan-boi! What exactly is the situation on driver support for someone booting winxp on a mac? That's what I am interested in, anyone got a clue?

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  4. Obligatory Pink and the Brain Follow Up by Philosinfinity · · Score: 5, Funny

    Brain: Pinky, are you thinking what I'm thinking? Pinky: I think so Brain but where are we going to find rubber pants and sod at this time of night?

  5. soo..... by Trelane · · Score: 5, Interesting

    if you can run Windows on a Mac now, will game developers stop porting games to Mac, since Mac users can run Windows?

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  6. Mirror of the movie by jmke · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here's link to the XP on MAC video from a site which can handle a /. http://youtube.com/watch?v=nzH6OFpXgzI

  7. The Good, the Bad and the Ugly by ocp · · Score: 5, Funny

    If now somebody figures out how to triple boot and add Linux then I will be able to boot a good, a bad and an ugly OS (and I'm not saying either which is which!).

    1. Re:The Good, the Bad and the Ugly by jaiyen · · Score: 5, Funny

      The price of Apple hardware, the security of Windows, the user-friendliness of Linux all on one machine - what's not to like ?

  8. Irony by Fahrvergnuugen · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I find this kind of funny and ironic...

    Apple announces that they are moving to intel. OSX is DRM'd and bound to Macs so that it cannot be run on commodity hardware. Senior execs at Apple also state that they will not do anything to prevent Windows from running on their hardware.

    Intel Macs come out.

    Hackers get OSX86 up and running on Dells with relative ease, despite Apple's best efforts to prevent them from doing so. However, they have such a hard time getting Windows to run on a Mac that a contest is started and 13,000 dollars worth of prize money is offered.

    Oh the irony. :-)

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  9. Re:Why? by slantyyz · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's actually called DarWINE and it's not quite at the level of maturity you see in the Linux world. Codeweavers says they're working on a version of Crossover Office for the Mac, but they haven't posted any news about it recently.

    Crossover Office is pretty good on Linux. I'd rather use something like Wine (provided it worked on 100% of the stuff I need -- wishful thinking) than VMWare. Having said that, I'd rather use VMWare than dual boot.

  10. Re:Can't play the video by 787style · · Score: 5, Funny

    Using the Quick Time player on Windows XP it says required compressor not available (1st time I tried it also said not available on server)... what do I need?

    An Intel Mac, obviously.

  11. Re:Why? by AnonymousPrick · · Score: 5, Funny
    Because you're not a Mac user who lives in the Windows world.

    I'm thinking of writing a book about a Windows guy who disguises himself as a Mac user to see what it's like.

    I call it: "Mac Like Me".

    Sounds cool, huh?

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  12. from macrumors by ClassicComposer · · Score: 5, Informative
    Since it's won now, I guess I can talk. The install requires a Windows XP PC, with which Windows is already installed. From here you use Nero Burning ROM to mix files from your XP SP2 CD, copy them to a new project, and add in some $OEM$ files and folders, and fix some of the files in i386. From here, you use xom.efi (which is the bootloader), and bless it in Terminal. Once it's blessed on startup you get a pretty nice selector, and you choose Windows. From here the CSM layer pauses for 2.5 Minutes while it does whatever its doing. Then you'll get into Windows Setup.

    I should also mention at this time, you cannot reboot Windows. You need to shutdown. If you attempt rebooting it will hang at Windows is Shutting Down screen.
    from mac forums
  13. Re:Why? by Total_Wimp · · Score: 5, Interesting

    1. The first guy to do something gets lots of points

    2. Anybody who does a lot of work so I don't have to gets points

    3. The definition of hard has less to do whith whether the technology looks challenging and more to do with how long it actually takes people to accomplish. This was not instantaneous with a bunch of people piling on working solutions at the same time. This guy stands alone after a significant period of time. That makes this "hard" in a defacto sense of the word and is definately worth some points.

    4. I'm not a Mac user. I'm a Windows user. Of course Mac users love their OS. I don't. After supporting several Mac people and trying to make use of it myself, I've decided I actually dislike it quite a lot (no flames, please, this is just a personal preference). However, I _love_ Mac hardware. I've lusted after the clean, light notebooks and the "cheese grater" G5 desktops are shear design elegance. As a current Mac user, judging this by the fact that you wouldn't want to run Windows is missing the fundimental point that Windows users might like the option of buying great hardware from Apple. From my perspective, this is worth lots of points.

    Add em all up and this guy can redeem his points for several rounds of beer should I ever meet him :-)

    TW

  14. Dell = Biggest Loser? by gurutc · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Rather than talk about what Microsoft and Apple think, I'd love to see the marketing department at Dell today.

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  15. explanation (riposte) by mnemonic_ · · Score: 5, Informative
    Colin has received a solution from narf2006 and is currently testing it. Meanwhile, narf2006 has revealed some details on his method; he patched the Windows XP kernel to get VGA working, and wrote a custom Compatibility Support Module (CSM) to allow booting XP from EFI.

    According to Intel documentation, using a CSM that plugs into the EFI framework should allow for booting BIOS-based operating systems:
    A contemporary implementation of the Framework on a PC includes a CSM for supplying services to operating systems that do not boot using EFI and for supporting legacy option ROMs on add-in cards. For legacy boot the Framework initializes the platform's silicon and executes EFI drivers.
    In the words of Jim Cramer, "booyah."
  16. Re:So where's the meat? by Slashcrap · · Score: 5, Funny

    Where can I get this? I haven't found any details or downloads yet...

    As this is for a Mac, there will be no free download. It will instead be provided as a $25 shareware package - just like every other useful little utility.

  17. Re:Lawsuit? by earthloop · · Score: 5, Funny

    maybe more than 30% of the dual booters will actually pay for a Windows license

    A percent (%) character seems to have slipped in there. ;o)