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DigiDave writes "A time honored tradition on St Patty's Day is to drink green beer. But some breweries go out of their way to make sure that the brewskies we drink are always green, by using environmentally friendly brewing methods. The makers of Fat Tire, for example, use a cogeneration process that involves anaerobic bacteria turning wastewater into methane gas for power."

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  1. So much for current events... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    St. Paddy's was yesterday.

  2. St Patty's day by mark2003 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    St Patty?

    Maybe someone is still struggling after a few too many beers?

    I'm not sure I would call this a time honoured tradition either - I'd never even heard of green beer until I went to the US. I'd never seen it either in Ireland or any of the Irish (and I mean real Irish pubs in Kilburn owned by Irish landlords full of first generation Irish people or Irish people working temporarily in London) pubs in the UK I've been to on St Patricks day.

    1. Re:St Patty's day by waferhead · · Score: 3, Interesting

      From a second generation Irish/American who spent a few years in Portland, Oregon...

      Try Fat Tire, and DEFINATELY get to a McMennamins and try Terminator Stout.
      (They frequently have a "special" version (can't recall what it was called) that would rip yer head off.)

      Go to Portland if you get a chance, I'tll be sorta like home, only with more guys wearing leather walking their boyfreinds downtown on dog chains.

      Only wetter.

      And I personally suspect Mad Cow, rather than any pork issues.

  3. Pitching in by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 4, Funny

    Each of us should be taking local actions to do our part for the planet. For example, I've been using my own anaerobic process to turn beer into methane gas for many years now.

  4. Fat Tire by Solder+Fumes · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Fat Tire is pretty good. It's not recommended if you ever plan to go back to Bud. Some people don't like a sweet beer, but then some people don't like chocolate either. Ignore those mutants and grab a nice mug if you're in the southern Midwest sometime.

    1. Re:Fat Tire by jbrader · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Why the southern midwest? I live in Tacoma Washington and the Fat Tire flows like water around here.

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    2. Re:Fat Tire by kklein · · Score: 5, Informative

      SOUTHERN MIDWEST???

      I beg your pardon, sir, but the noble brew of which you speak is lovingly manufactured in Fort Collins, Colorado, roughly 30 minutes south of the Wyoming border.

      http://www.newbelgium.com/

      If you're ever in the area, I heartily recommend their free brewery tour. You learn a lot about beer, and at the end you are given a little glass of each of their brews in a fun and chatty atmosphere. It's a great free day date in Fort Collins. Afterwards, you can head back the road into Old Town for great food and a plethora of great bars, all within picturesque walking distance.

      I recommend The Crown Pub (on College) and the Rio Grande (on Mountain) for food/drinks, and Elliot's martini bar (on Linden) for drinks. Finish your drunken evening off at Walrus ice cream (on Mountain, next to the Rio), enjoying their homemade deliciousness.

      Oh, and personally, I prefer New Belgium's Sunshine Wheat to Fat Tire, mostly because hoppy beers like Fat Tire give me terrible acid reflux, although they are tasty.

      Come on, everyone! Let's enjoy Fort Collins!

      This message NOT paid for by the Fort Collins tourism board or chamber of commerce. My Japanese-language historical walking tours of Old Town have also ended, due to the fact that I don't live there anymore.

    3. Re:Fat Tire by paeanblack · · Score: 4, Insightful

      While the mass produced crap deserves it's repuation as being better after urination than before

      I brew my own but also drink that "mass produced crap". I used to be a beer snob, but over the years, I've learn that that "crap" has alot going for it.

      -I can get it anywhere...any country, any state, any town I'm in, and I don't even need to ask. I know they have it.
      -Usually, I'm really just looking for something cold and wet.
      -Usually, the beer is just an accessory to the journey; it's not the destination. I'm more interesting in what's going on around me.
      -It is still booze. After a few drinks, it doesn't matter what you are drinking.

      and most importantly...

      -Mass produced beers don't attract a gaggle of shallow buffoons that judge people by what they drink.

    4. Re:Fat Tire by jthayden · · Score: 3, Insightful
      -I can get it anywhere...any country, any state, any town I'm in, and I don't even need to ask. I know they have it.

      How is this a bonus? Why bother going anywhere if you aren't going to try something new? The first thing I ask for when I go into a bar/pub while traveling is if they have any local brews.

      -Usually, I'm really just looking for something cold and wet.

      Drink water.

      -Usually, the beer is just an accessory to the journey; it's not the destination. I'm more interesting in what's going on around me.

      Drink Water

      -It is still booze. After a few drinks, it doesn't matter what you are drinking.

      This doesn't jive with the your previous point of it's the journey not the destination. If the point is just to get drunk, do a few shots of Everclear and be done with it.

      -Mass produced beers don't attract a gaggle of shallow buffoons that judge people by what they drink.

      That is really your best point and it really isn't that good. The fact is that you can make judgements about people based upon their actions. If you're drinking something like Bud or Miller and that ilk, I can infer that you either are just drinking to get drunk, you have poor taste in beer, or marketing holds too much sway over you. Poor taste in beer is really the kindest choice out of the three and the one I generally attribute to people. I don't make many other judgements beyond that and I'd agree that people that do are annoying. Although quite a few people drinking the mass produced stuff are more than happy to be shallow buffons that judge people by what they aren't drinking too.

  5. Beer? by fred911 · · Score: 3, Funny

    "use a cogeneration process that involves anaerobic bacteria turning wastewater"

    in (state side) domestic beer.

      move on ... nothing new here:-)

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  6. Public Health Warning - Tourist Advisary by Realistic_Dragon · · Score: 4, Funny

    If you are in Boston at this time of year DO NOT respond when people introduce themselves as "Irish-American" with "Nice to meet you, I'm a Saxon-Norman-Viking-Dutch-Englishman". Breaking them out of their fantasy world may result in you spending the night in the gutter looking for your teeth instead of getting personally aquainted with a drunk BU chick who can't tell the difference between a Home Counties and Irish Counties accent.

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  7. Paddy's Day by Hrungnir · · Score: 5, Informative

    Patty is a girls name

    Its spelled St. Paddy's Day if you're gonna abbreviate it.

    Patty is short for Patricia.
    Paddy is short for Patrick because the gaelic name is Padraig.

    Why does everyone insist on calling St. Patrick a woman?

    1. Re:Paddy's Day by AuMatar · · Score: 3, Funny

      Since he was a priest he didn't use it anyway. He may as well have been a woman.

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    2. Re:Paddy's Day by crache · · Score: 3, Informative

      If were getting specific, his name wasn't even patrick. Born Maewyn Succat, and not even in Ireland! His name was later romanized as Patricius, after he became christian.

  8. Green beer!!!!?!? by 91degrees · · Score: 5, Funny

    Seriously, if you tried giving anyone beer than had been dyed green in Ireland, you'd be introduced to that other tradtitional Irish custom of having your head smashed against the bar.

  9. Most breweries do.. by Zenethian · · Score: 4, Informative

    Anheuser-Busch does the same thing with it's BERS program. Takes all its wastewater and manages microbiological reactions in it to produce mostly clean water and CO2 (for bottling) and Methane to power the boilers. In fact they produce almost all of their own power in several breweries. This isn't anything new.

  10. Drink the right beer! by riflemann · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Most people associate beer with cheap piss, generally only drinking it as a social lubricant and really ignoring the true flavours of the beer. That's true for just about any mass-produced beer (VB, Fosters, Bud, Miller, Heineken).

    Go out and trying a real beer for once, and not just Guinness on St Pats (arguably not that great a beer). Some of the world's greatest beers are quite accessible and will blow your socks off with their complexity and flavour.

    Similar to wine coinnoseurs, there are also those who are (mostly self-professed) experts in beer, preferring something good like a trappist beer with their meal to wine, and deservingly so. A properly brewed beer's a lot more interesting to have with a meal than wine, and there's infinitely more variety.

    Heineken is not a good beer. Really. In Holland it's considered mediocre. If you see a beer everywhere, then it's mosty likely crap. Stella's pissy too. Budvar, Pilsener Urquell, Hertog Jan...they're ok for lagers.

    A coding session's a heck of a lot more enjoyable when combined with a decent brew. But be careful, too good a beer will distract! Some of my best output's come after having a good Belgian.

    Seriously. Go down to your nearest large speciality bottle shop/liquor store and find a few bottles of the higher rated beers that you can find. Drink them, out of the proper glassware and at the right temperature then you'll never go back to a macro again. It could get more expensive, but damn it's worth it. A hint - drink light-coloured beers in warmer weather and darker ones in cool weather.

    And then you can have good beer all the time.

  11. Guiness by Anne+Thwacks · · Score: 3, Informative

    Anyone who doesn't drink Guiness on St Guiness' day has only thems elves to blame.

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  12. Fat Tire is a great beer... by ayjay29 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I was in Seattle a while ago, and was advised by all the locals to try the beers from the micro-breweries (after trying Bud-Light i was weary of beers from the other side of the Atlantic).

    After trying a few brands (some OK, some not so OK), i tried Fat Tire, and it was the best beer i've had in a long time.

    (Coming from Yourshire in England, I'm usually a bit weary when it comes to sampling beers not brewed within 50 miles of where I was born...)

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  13. Good beer isn't cheap by toxic666 · · Score: 3, Informative

    And cheap beer isn't good. Ahh, brewing, water and energy -- enough to spark an old geologist's interest; I homebrew from grain and got up early to knock out an ESB.

    Brooklyn and New Belgium are both good breweries in that they use REAL grains (mostly malted barley) instead of the cheap and tasteless adjuncts (rice, corn) that make up 50% of cheap American swill. That alone is worthy of support.

    But seeing them spend more money to be environmentally friendly is truly impressive. It takes a lot of enery to brew -- the grain must soak in 150F water (the mash), then be rinsed with 170F water to wash out the maltose (the lauter) and finally that resultant wort boiled for 60 - 120 minutes. That ain't cheap. Geting rid of the spent grains through farms is not unusual for small breweries -- but it is cheaper than landfill disposal costs. The wastewater treatment is not cheap either, because brewing produces a lot of it -- rich in yeast and sanitizing chemicals. However, most brewers just drop it into the sewer system.

    It's not only admirable, but impressive that these breweries can keep costs in line while going the extra mile in energy and water treatment.

  14. Beer geeks speak out by merc · · Score: 3, Informative

    I get a kick out of St. Patty's day when laymen refer to green beer in the most literal sense.

    In a lager brewing process the post-fermented wort is sometimes referred to as "green beer", which is the beer before a secondary fermentation process commences (conditioning, lagering, etc.)

    As a side note it would be interesting to know how many tech-geeks extend their geektitude into the realm of brewing or zymurgy?

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