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Microsoft To Construct iPod/DS/PSP Killer

Karsten writes "According to The Mercury News Microsoft is developing a PSP/DS/GBA/iPod-killer. J. Allard is leading the project." J. Allard is the man behind the Xbox, and from looking at the article it sounds like it's at least a year before this device, if it hits daylight, would be coming.

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  1. killers by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 5, Funny

    Dammit, can't they make a Windows killer?

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    1. Re:killers by /ASCII · · Score: 4, Interesting

      No, Microsoft doesn't make products, they make 'solutions'. Just look at Origami. The pre-announcement hype was about a PSP-killer/iPod-killer/whatever-killer and in the end, it turns out to be a slightly smaller formfactor for tablet PCs, obviously inspired by the Nokia 770. There isn't even a product; the only thing Microsoft will release WRT Origami is yet another stripped version of Windows, to fill the imagined gap between CE and Media center.

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    2. Re:killers by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 5, Funny

      Why can't they just make something that goes around hugging everything ..

      They did. His name was Clippy.

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    3. Re:killers by shotfeel · · Score: 4, Funny

      Dammit, can't they make a Windows killer?

      No need to. On some of my systems, Windows is quite adept at dying all on its own.

  2. Everything is a 'Killer' by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Microsoft To Construct iPod/DS/PSP Killer
    Please! This is supposed to be a happy occasion. Let's not bicker and argue over who killed who ...

    I've said it before and I'll say it again--for the love of god, please stop printing mindless headlines of the form "[insert company name here] is [planning/making] a [insert industry-wide leading product name here] killer."
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    1. Re:Everything is a 'Killer' by cowscows · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Actually, I thought that the PSP was supposed to be the iPod/DS killer. So if MS kills the PSP before it gets a chance to kill the iPod and the DS, then it's just wasting energy, cause it'll have to go kill them itself. It'd be much more efficient and cheaper for MS to wait until Sony finishes killing the iPod and the DS, and then just go whack the PSP. And then wait for Google to release a small electronic device, and then go kill that too.

      I think that the "* killer" tag has pretty much become one of those laughable buzzwords; where when a PR guy says it, you know he's got no idea about what's really going on, and when someone knowledgeable uses it, it's in a sort of sarcastic mocking tone. Basically, any time I see a slashdot headline talking about a "killer", I can be confident that the comments will 95% be people stating lots of reasons why it obviously won't work that way. Let the marketing people have their cute little terms, no one besides themselves is fooled.

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  3. Obligatory by gentimjs · · Score: 4, Funny

    Not to troll but .. I'm sorry, its from Microsoft .. its surely going to have an Intel chip (Mobile EXTREEEEEEEEME Hunger Eddition) and run WindowsCE(meNT) loaded with more DRM than you thought possible from a mobile .. the only thing this is going to "kill" is batteries ...

  4. hmm... no by joe+155 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This won't work, but we should all know that already know that. You can't just stick all the available technology into something and hope it all works out, this will end up being as big as origami with about 2 hours of battery life. I like things to be seperate, which is why I have an MP3 player, and a DS (and a camera and phone and whatever else they'll probably try and throw in it) I like things to be excellent at the one thing that they do, not just "acceptable" at everything under the sun

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    1. Re:hmm... no by cowscows · · Score: 4, Funny

      Pfft, Quiet you naysayer! I don't think they're being ambitious enough! This is Microsoft we're talking about! The greatest of all great companies in the greatest of all great nations! Not only will this device accomplish all that has been listed, but following in the usual Microsoft tradition, incredible new features will likely be added between now and the eventual, ontime release of this device. Don't be surprised if this device solves our fossil fuel dependence problems. It may very well cure AIDS. And then we can give copies of the device to everyone in the middle east, so they'll stop being angry towards the USA.

      Come on, we're not talking about a tiny hardware company like Apple, or a rowdy upstart like Google. We're talking about Microsoft, a hard working bunch of people who have, through sheer innovation and stringent quality standards, created the technological paradise which most of us live in every day. Show a little respect to the company that gave us marvels such as text editors, web browsers, and beautiful graphical interfaces.

      If the Xbox has taught us anything, it's that Microsoft's hardware will be at least as slick as their software, and all of their products share an impressive efficiency in terms of resource usage. The future truly is now, and you're lucky to be alive during these exciting times.

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    2. Re:hmm... no by Covetous+Knight · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Umm, okay. How about the Archos.

      No DRM just like you said - and somehow people aren't flocking to it in droves. Could it be that you really would like a product without DRM, but you're a little out of touch with what the masses want?

  5. Home Depot already have one by Timo_UK · · Score: 5, Funny

    in the tools section. It's called sledgehammer and is guaranteed to kill all of those devices in one shot.

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  6. Time to... by MaestroSartori · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...dust off all your jokes about how big the Xbox is!

    Seriously though, with Xbox and Xbox Live MS has shown that they are capable of doing interesting, cool things with both consoles and gaming generally. I'll be interested to see what they come up with.

  7. I can feel the pain by dada21 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm not a MS fanboy, but I do have very good experiences with Microsoft over my lifetime. I've had some terrible problems, too, but nothing that has affected me in a bad way. I believe Microsoft's Windows has been a big reason why PCs are so cheap -- a common operating system that was easy to use has helped to bring more people to computers. I think we'd be in the 80s still if it wasn't for Windows 3.0 -- Apple had no chance given their closed hardware.

    My experience with MS in handhelds is terrible. I've owned about 30 PDAs in my life (I tend to use them for 3-4 months and then sell them to friends or family or give them away). All my Newtons were my favorite (from the original MessagePad through the 2100). I feel terrible that I sold all my Newtons years ago -- I think I'd still be using the beasts today.

    Microsoft doesn't know how to downsize anything. The big complaints about Windows from the geek crowd is more appropriate for Microsoft in the small-PC crowd. I had a Microsoft car radio once -- Worst. Thing. Ever. My current PDA is Microsoft based and it works very well wirelessly -- yet I have to reboot it about 10 times a day to get it to run fast.

    I have no faith in Microsoft in terms of an iPod killer. The X-Box is mostly a fluke to me -- a lot of money spent, very little profit made -- which means the item is NOT a success in terms of market viability. For me, the best products are those that make a profit, giving the manufacturer real reason to keep upgrading and supporting it.

    If the Microsoft 'iPod' killer is another spend-a-ton-and-earn-none fluke, it won't last. Microsoft needs a happy customer, and a happy customer pays a happy profit. Without that incentive, Microsoft will be fighting battles on too many fronts, and we know what happens to the imperialists that have done that in the past.

  8. *YAWN* by Karyyk · · Score: 5, Insightful

    For all intents and purposes, the PSP should have killed the DS from a technical viewpoint. Fortunately, ingenuity in the gaming industry can still make up for somewhat lesser tech. Nintendo has rules the handheld market since 1989, and I don't really see that changing anytime soon. Besides, Microsoft, at best, will come up with a Windows-running, $400 handheld with a 3-hour battery lift. I'll pass.

  9. They can try... by Enselic · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I doubt they will be able to create an iPod killer because that would mean they had to change the behaviour of hundreds of thousands of people.

    A behaviour is exceptionally hard to change, especially if it is based on an already well working service.

  10. MS missing the point of iPod yet again by hcdejong · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't want a brick that's large enough to play video/games on. I want a music player that's small enough to fit in a pocket and be generally unobtrusive.

  11. Early Ad Sneak Preview by Mignon · · Score: 4, Funny
    Great timing. I found this on Google last night:

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3609953966 5548298

  12. Sony already tried by Guppy06 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And about the only thing the PSP seems to be killing is... the PSP.

    If Microsoft wishes to do the same thing as Sony, making a "gaming" handheld that does everything but actually play games, they'll get the same results.

    Granted, they may make a better movie player than the PSP (depending on the specifics), but Microsoft is already losing the format wars with Apple over music formats (much like Sony) and if they aim for squeezing the "latest and greatest" in graphics and sound technology into the gaming function, it certainly isn't going to be as small as the iPod (like Sony). And, finally, like Sony, there'll be little more than "portable" (i. e. watered-down) versions of console games (read "Halo Lite").

  13. And this is why we (had) monopoly control laws by Catbeller · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Monopolies are legal, but they used to be controlled, when the law was actually enforced and "conservative" judges weren't appointed to short-circuit it.

    Monopolies are damaging because they can leverage their overwhelming advantage (=money) into new markets, conquering one product segment after another, erecting barriers to entry to new competitors, and most importantly, monopolies can prevent new technologies from dislodging their old tech by using extortion in all sorts of ways (in the classic case, "put Linux in your boxen, in any way, and say good-bye to your Windows discount, hell, good-bye to your Windows boxen).

    Microsoft is building "killer" after "killer", using their infinite cash from their Office and Windows monopolies to simply underprice their products in new businesses like game machines and portable media players until their competitors, who don't have monopoly cash, fold. Then, classically, they raise their prices in their new monopoly, then use the cash to move into a new monopoly. This is why we busted the trusts after the Guilded Age. Inevitably, one company will own everything. Microsoft wants a media tax worldwide, wants a piece of every media streamed and stored. Then they'll inevitably move into media creation; hell, that's what they're doing in video games. Vertical lock.

  14. ipod killer is easy - free advice by xtal · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I should be a product consultant.

    Make what the mac people are crying for.

    The device must be the same, exact form factor as the current gen ipod.

    Make it out of aluminum or titanium with a matte or beadblasted finish.

    The screen should be the entire front of the device.

    It's only user input; the touchscreen and perhaps a single scroll wheel. NO MORE. Think about inertial input in a second release. MAYBE.

    Put a video and headphone jack on it.

    Put 802.11 on it and stop being a bitch to the media industries.

    Make it with open programmable interface and a real OS.

    The only user interface and application options should be just what the ipod has - a video player, audio player, and basic little apps like the ipod has.

    Let the market fill in the gaps.

    Sell millions. When you do, buy me a ferrari, ok thanks?

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