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Fedora Core 5 Available

Jan Slupski writes "New release day today. Fedora Core 5 CD images are now available for download (i386, ppc, x86_64) on the ftp servers or via the torrent page." Linclips also has a short screencast on some of the default functionality.

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  1. bug sorted? by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 5, Informative

    It appears as though FC5 contains a bug which prevents none GPL modules (read nVidia) from being used.
    Has this been fixed in this one yet, or is it worth waiting a few more days for the fix to be rolled out?

    (It was identified too late to be pushed to the mirrors)

    Info about it is here.

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    1. Re:bug sorted? by osvejda · · Score: 5, Informative

      Fixed kernel is here. It's not in official updates yet.

    2. Re:bug sorted? by skogs · · Score: 3, Informative

      I believe you will find that the kernel that is autocompiled beforehand will not accept the binary drivers...just like any other non-custom-built kernel that leaves out that option.

      Rebuild your kernel per directions found on several sites, install the drivers per nvidia's instructions...

      game. xgl. whatever.

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    3. Re:bug sorted? by MSG · · Score: 3, Informative

      Those responsible are "owning up" to the mistake. It's been discussed on the testing list, and corrected packages were made available to the testers. It's a sad fact that a bug was introduced in the kernel very late in the testing process. The first kernel update will correct the problem.

      Don't blow it out of proportion. Fedora Core is a distro for developers and hobbyists (which is why I use it). For that audience, this bug isn't anything more than a minor annoyance.

    4. Re:bug sorted? by MSG · · Score: 4, Informative

      I believe you will find that the kernel that is autocompiled beforehand will not accept the binary drivers

      Normally, they do. The Nvidia drivers are broken because the spinlock macros were accidentally made GPL-only. The first kernel update will fix the problem.

      install the drivers per nvidia's instructions...

      It's probably better if you don't. If you read the Fedora Projects notes on 3rd party drivers, you'll notice that Nvidia and ATI both break X in subtle ways, and may leave GL in an unworkable state, even after uninstalling them.

  2. Re:MP3's? by Nighttime · · Score: 5, Informative

    Short answer is no.

    From http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ForbiddenItems

    MP3 encoding/decoding support is not included in any Fedora application because MP3 is heavily patented in several regions including the United States. The patent holder is unwilling to give an unrestricted patent grant, as required by the GPL. Other platforms might have paid the royalty and/or included proprietary software. Other Linux distributions not based in a region affected by the patent might ship MP3 decoders/encoders or they might have included proprietary software. However, Fedora Core cannot and does not ship MP3 decoders/encoders in order to serve the goal of shipping only free and open source software that is not restricted by software patents.

    Fedora Suggests: If possible, use patent unrestricted formats such as Ogg Vorbis (a lossy audio codec that has better quality than MP3), or FLAC (a lossless audio codec).

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  3. Re:Upgrading by /ASCII · · Score: 5, Informative

    No, all you need to do is get the CDs or DVD and boot from them - you will be presented with the alternatives of overwriting the current install or upgrading it to FC5. It is a very good idea to backup your data just to be sure, but I've never had any problems going from one RedHat/Fedora version to a newer one.

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  4. Re:Redhat Naming by AKAImBatman · · Score: 5, Informative

    I never understood why Redhat chose Fedora.

    Fedora is a hat. You see the "Red Hat" logo? The type of hat the guy is wearing in the logo is called a Fedora. Given that the hat is named after a Frech play, I don't think that anyone is really worried about what it means in Portugese.

  5. FC5 mirror by Yenya · · Score: 3, Informative

    The Fedora Download page, which is according to the announcement message supposed to redirect you to one of the mirrors, does not work - it redirects to ftp://download.fedora.redhat.com which is (of course) busy. So let me allow to advertise my mirror - if you are in Europe, I have still about half a gigabit of bandwidth free at

    ftp://ftp.linux.cz/pub/linux/fedora-core/5/

    -Yenya

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  6. Upgrade via yum is easier by Cosine0 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Just download and install fedora-release.xx.rpm
    Next, "yum upgrade"
    And you don't even have to reboot...

    1. Re:Upgrade via yum is easier by NoExec · · Score: 3, Informative
  7. Re:Fedora Mirrors by Secrity · · Score: 5, Informative

    Playboy.com also mirrors Firefox, Thunderbird, Apache, FreeBSD, and CPAN. Playboy uses FOSS in it's operation and wants to give back to the community by providing mirrors.

  8. Kernel version by jd · · Score: 3, Informative
    Fedora 5 comes with Kernel 2.6.15 with Red Hat patches. The latest official kernel is 2.6.16, which includes some important bugfixes. At the time of writing this, Fedora Core does NOT have 2.6.16 in the development tree, so it may be a few days before this upgrade is available.


    Just as a personal note, I compile my own kernels, using the vanilla kernel patched with Andrew Morton's patches first, then with whatever of Red Hat's will still apply cleanly. Andrew Morton's -mm patches adds a lot of extremely useful functionality, for me, so that's my patchset of choice. (There are some nice real-time patches out there, too, but they're generally not compatible with other patchsets, making them a pain.)

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  9. Bought on DVD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    If like me you don't have broadband, you can get it from budgetlinuxcds.com on DVD for only $5

  10. Re:MP3's? by pyros · · Score: 3, Informative

    The problem isn't distributing a codec, the problem is you can't legally have a GPL implementation in a jurisdiction where the patents on those formats applies (like the US). In the example of MP3, the patent holders grant free license for ditributing a decoding implementation, I believe. But that's not liberal enough to be compatible with the GPL, because the license could be revoked.

  11. Re:MP3's? by Listen+Up · · Score: 3, Informative

    For years I have used The Unofficial Fedora Faq located at http://www.fedorafaq.org/ to install all of the software missing from the Fedora Core downloads.

    I agree with everything on that page, except for Java support. I develop Java and suggest that anybody who wants to develop serious Java applications use the official Java JDK from Sun. Otherwise, everything else is spot-on to help make Fedora a serious Linux desktop distribution.

  12. Re:Zen by Shawn+is+an+Asshole · · Score: 3, Informative

    You currently can't run Windows under Xen as Xen requires the OS to be modified to run under it. Until the new CPUs with virtualization are out you can't use Xen to run Windows.

    Right now, though, there is a good free (beer) alternative: VMWare Player. I've been using it with a Win2k guest and it works great. A bit sluggish on Athlon XP's (2500+) and lower, but it feels almost native on an Athlon 64 (3200+).

    To create a disk, install qemu and use the following command to create the disk:

    qemu-img create -f vmdk disk.vmdk 15G

    To create your *.vmx file use VM Builder (it's a webapp).

    Open the VMX file in VMWare Player and install Windows normally.

    To install VMware Tools, just download an old version (tar.gz, not the rpm) of the Workstation or the betas of the Server. There is a "windows.iso" file in the archive that has everything you need.

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