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Sun Grid DOS'd
feronti writes "So, it didn't take long... CNET is reporting that Sun's new Grid computing service (reported yesterday) has already been the victim of a DDOS attack. "
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Oh, it was slashdotted.
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The outage, Sun reports, began at around 04:43PM, on Wednesday March 22, as every geek in the world seemingly had nothing else to do at the time.
(Yes, I went there. And yes, that was just unacceptable. I know. hEhE)
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The world's first self-overwhelming computer. Or was that a MS-DOS machine?
Sounds like a programmer at an unnamed competing firm took a half day off.
So, would you say that the Sun Grid should now be considered "off the grid?"
Don't worry, I'll be here all week.
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Sun uses DOS?
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Why do people do this? Sun provided a publicly available text to speech service as a cute little marketing gimmick. Thanks to the efforts of these yahoos, however, Sun has moved the service inside the grid so that it is only available to subscribers. Cool things that could have been done with this free service (Sun suggests making blogs into podcasts) now can only be done by GridEngine subscribers.
And what have these self-righteous "hackers" proved? Abso-fracking-lutely nothing. Sun's Grid was never in danger, and they had no problem moving the service.
So thank you very much for spoiling things for everyone. I hope you "hackers" enjoyed it.
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They're lucky Slashdot didn't linked to the project, otherwise they would've been DDOS'd for the second time.
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Pretty damn cool idea, actually. I'm not sure about their demo application (unless the speech quality was superb), but a cool idea nonetheless. Could especially be nice for cracking passwords on things like RAR archives where you have to use brute force attacks. I imagine opening up old password protected archives could be very valuable to businesses (particulary since businesses tend to repeat passwords, e.g., discover one and you probably discovered a bunch).
Not very useful to the public at large, though.
Now that's sheer brilliance! How come I never thought about running DOS on a cluster of machines? What's that? Wrong DOS you say?
This guy's the limit!
Let's keep things straight - three are enough confusing three letter acronyms.
Denial of Service is still worth writing out. Most wanna-be geeks see the three letters "dos" in any capitalization combination and think of Microsoft Disk Operating system.
Slashdot story submitters should know the difference between DOS and DoS, but due to the stupid l33tsp33k crud, nobody takes capitalization seriously.
I think that outside of security or incident response venues, denial of service should be written in full and not abbreviated.
One guy set up a distributed job to run this:
#!/bin/sh
$0 &
exec $0
So, it didn't take long... CNET is reporting that Sun's new Grid computing service (reported yesterday) has already been the victim of a DDOS attack. "
...As thousands of hackers asked The Grid... What is The Answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything?
....I'm thinking the technical term for this would be "eclipse", right?
Ok, in all seriousness, it isn't so suprising, it was a big target and some people are just going to take the shot -- which it too bad since the DoSers could have used thier time for more important works...like acing GoDaddy severs, or better yet some M$ site."
my $.02
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."
-Gandhi
"Aisling MacRunnels, Sun's senior director of utility computing"
I really like the idea behind this Sun's project (network.com? I'm sure it was not cheap to get that domain). It even makes me wanna install JBuilder or something by the way and program in Java again.
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Proves that 'If you build it, they will come.'
Moderation in All Things... Especially Moderation - gurutc
Slashdot *did* link to the Grid website. Maybe the grid was simply Slashdotted!
- Murphy's Corollary: - It is impossible to make things foolproof because fools are so ingenious.
Sun feels comfortable because they use Paypal as a form of user verification. What could go wrong with that? /sarcasm
Please somehome with good english rewrite this post.
... You Can Join The Grid!.. and theres are lots and lots of grid nodes on universitys around the world. So your scientific app is calculated trough 90 nodes, that where 90 computers around the world, but you only execute a single C app (a C batch app).
Sun, as always, have some very good futuristic ideas. Ideas too good for nowdays, but will work on the future.
You already know Java, and "The network is the computer", and theres is another The Grid.
The Grid is another use of the internet, as The Web is the net of web pages, The Grid is the net of network resources shaped in a way that A Single Execution can run on a virtual giganteous virtual computer. Its not magic, only code written to use this level of paralelism will work, and you need to use some "standard" framework, but is still C, (or perl if you want) code. As I write this, theres some guys migrating applications to the Grid framework.
Actually the need for that giganteouse computational power on a simple C executable is experiemental data generated by particle accelerators like the LHC (aka, from the CERN, the same guys create the World Wide Web). Withouth the Grid you have not enough computational horsepower to analize that much data.
Sun, and these guys think this interesting use of technology will grown, and soon guys like Liberty, Visa, Bayer, etc.. will use that horsepower to crunch hugue computational problems, problems that huge that actually looks not feasible. And because The Grid use some sort of "p2p" alike technology
With this setup, Its a non-sense that hackers attack sun. WHY?!!!.. The Grid is a idea a true hacker sould LOVE, not hate or attack. Imagine a world where "hackers" attacking the first web server to shutdown the worldwideweb idea. What lameness...
I am a hacker, and I think these guys hare not more than vandals withouth respect for technology, or withouth pride for scientific effors on IT.
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The way the summary is written, you'd think that actual site was down or something. But the website and grid itself was fine - it was just the free example (running on separate hardware) that got busy. (I dunno how busy - I accessed it yesterday and it was fine at the time).
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I dunno, Slashdot could have reported on something more meaningful - like Sun GPL'ing their latest processor. You can download it here:
http://opensparc-t1.sunsource.net/download_hw.htm
There's a decent write-up here:
http://www.itjungle.com/breaking/bn032106-story01
Manufacturing fab not included...
Sun should use their Grid to DDoS back the attacking machines. After all, Sun has a formidable weapon here now.
"It's the height of ridiculousness to say for those 9 lines you get hundreds of millions."
And the Grid replied: 101010
"It's the height of ridiculousness to say for those 9 lines you get hundreds of millions."
Thanks for the tip.
... pretty neat.
I'd actually been wondering if there was a way to do that for a while
They really need to do something about their voices though. I remember when they brought them out ("Mac-in-talk-pro-english-vic-tor-ia" anyone?) and it seems like they haven't done a bit of work since then.
I've often thought it would be cool if you got a text-to-speech system that was good enough to make a 'poor mans audiobook,' by passing some Project Gutenberg texts into a program and having it spit out MP3s, but I think the voices would drive me crazy in short order. I can't really imagine sitting and listening to Tolstoy from Fred, Agnes, Princess, Junior, or any of the other Apple voices.
"Ladies and gentlemen, my killbot features Lotus Notes and a machine gun. It is the finest available."
The sun grin did NOT GET DOS'ed. The DEMO SERVER got dos'ed, and when they moved such code back into the grid the DOS attack was mitigated. RTFA.
Horns are really just a broken halo.
...for meddling with the mighty memmaker's carefully generated config.sys and autoexec.bat :)
Boo.
But let me let you in on a little secret. Its the kiddies and its a sliding window of 'vulnarability'. Go and get some 1980's OS, and plug it in. It'll be fine! Honestly!
Frakin' posers.
What if it is just turtles all the way down?
They're getting another day in the /. limelight.
They proved that by being a prick, they can get nice things taken away from everyone.
I hope they are proud of themselves, and that we meet up in a dark alley someday.
---- Booth was a patriot ----
Sun also reported...that their grid went down harder and faster than similar offerings from HP and IBM. Once again proving the superiority of the new Niagra based platforms! If you trade in your old DDOS'd equipment, Sun will give you 10% off!
so i paid $1 for 1 CPU hour.
i ran the sample "hostname" job.
Started When: 2006-03-24 00:36:54.0
Finished When: 2006-03-24 00:36:54.0
CPU-Hrs Used: 0.000
CPU-Hrs Billed: 1
Account balance (CPU-Hours): 0
btw, the glorious output: nyc1r214cpn14
MORTAR COMBAT!
I've contracted at Sun a couple times, and I'm continually amazed at their bureaucracy. The amount of pointless paperwork (now done through the web, but still tedious and time-consuming) is just mind-boggling. And I'm actually more patient with it than the regular employees, who vent like a volcano whenever the subject comes up.
Also, I have to point out that any freely available web application with high visibility has to be designed with a potential DDOS attack in mind. It's kind of disappoint that nobody though of this when they created that demo.
In situations like this, it is once again called for that before we can continue to build the next generation of decentralized computing systems, we need a relative trust identity system. This means people can create online identities (real or pseudonymous) and then link to others whom they trust. A trust web is then formed where an individual can compute the relative trust level between themselves and a third party. This would enable in a decentralized world a tool to combat the annoyances of these issues.
More about this to come on my website soon.
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... it claims that the Sun grid was DDOSed. But what the article says is:
The attacks didn't disturb the regular grid, Sun said. "There was no degradation to performance for users inside the Sun Grid," spokesman Brett Smith said.
So they atacked the server hosting text-to-speech translation service, NOT THE SUN GRID!
If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough. (Alan Kay)