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Claria Leaves Adware Business

Alex Stern writes "In an attempt to clean up its tarnished name, Claria has hired Deutsche Bank to help them sell off the software tools that were previously supported by their adware. Claria says they are unwilling to sell the software for the GAIN ad network, or the data they have collected from their users. Claria is also holding on to their eWallet software that manages passwords. On July 1, Claria will shutdown the GAIN network and inform their users they can either uninstall their software or pay for it. Claria's new business model is 'a new platform designed to provide consumers with a personalized Internet experience.'"

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  1. Tarnished name. by Poromenos1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't think you can clear a name that has been into spyware. I know I won't trust them for anything else they might do...

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    1. Re:Tarnished name. by the-amazing-blob · · Score: 4, Funny

      Don't immediatly say that. They might have actualy decided to change their evil ways. They could create something extremely useful.

    2. Re:Tarnished name. by Reziac · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I translated the move to mean "our adware product is now so ubiquitously blocked that it's become hard to make money with it, so we're selling it to some other sucker and finding a new area to sleeze in."

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  2. Some assets! by Random+Q.+Hacker · · Score: 5, Funny

    Oh boy, a screen saver. Let me whip out my billion dollars in venture capital for that!

  3. and Charles Manson... by Fhqwhgadss · · Score: 5, Funny

    is now knitting little sweaters for orphaned puppies.

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    1. Re:and Charles Manson... by Afecks · · Score: 3, Funny

      but the sweaters are made from human skin. so it all kind of balances out...

  4. Personalized Internet experience? by QuietLagoon · · Score: 4, Interesting

    In other words, spying on what you do on the 'net....

  5. Personalized Internet experience? by gluecode · · Score: 4, Insightful

    >> Claria's new business model is 'a new platform designed to >> provide consumers with a personalized Internet experience.'" To create a personalized Internet experience, don't they have to collect more intimate user information?

  6. Conditions of the sale crack me up by LiftOp · · Score: 5, Funny
    A condition of any sale of Claria's consumer software applications will be the requirement that any purchaser agrees to adhere to emerging industry standards outlined by TRUSTe and other industry coalitions.

    So what's the going rate for buying a product line and promising not to use it?

  7. AmEx? by Hazy+Memory · · Score: 5, Funny

    The real question is: can I pay with American Express or will they only take visa and mastercard. Don't take my GATOR away!!!

  8. Translation... by AnonymousPrick · · Score: 4, Interesting
    FTFA: At that time, people currently using any GAIN-related software products will be offered the chance to uninstall them, or continue using them through the new purchaser.

    So, some other company is going to continue business as usual? I don't care what sort of agreement the new owners have to abide by, there's always a way around such things. For all we know, the new purchaser could be just another entity that's owned by Claria via several layers of legal entities.

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  9. So.. by Turn-X+Alphonse · · Score: 3, Interesting

    a new platform designed to provide consumers with a personalized Internet experience

    So they'll be releasing a tool bar, which will do all of this again and claim other wise?

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  10. Why... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "Claria says they are unwilling to sell the software for the GAIN ad network, or the data they have collected from their users."

    Uh, why? Did they wake up some morning and magically get some ethics? Or are they afraid of what people will discover?

    They should get (another) name change at the same time. Most people know the relationship Claria == Gator == spyware/adware == scum.

  11. How is Spyware Legal? by SisyphusShrugged · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I have always had trouble understanding how spyware can be legal anyway...

    I mean basically the company is spying on you, its similar to if Walmart hired someone to constantly stalk you and take notes on what kind of shampoo you buy...it just does not seem logical.

    But then who said laws have to be logical, I mean the RIAA/MPAA DMCA CRAP states that for each movie/song one downloads the loss to the companies is the hundreds of thousands of dollars, doesnt really make sense does it...

    1. Re:How is Spyware Legal? by It'sYerMam · · Score: 3, Insightful
      I mean basically the company is spying on you, its similar to if Walmart hired someone to constantly stalk you and take notes on what kind of shampoo you buy...it just does not seem logical.
      I'm assuming you don't own any supermarket loyalty cards.
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    2. Re:How is Spyware Legal? by techno-vampire · · Score: 3, Insightful
      'm assuming you don't own any supermarket loyalty cards.

      There are three differences here. First, you have to specifically request the card and fill out an application. (Most spyware installs itself without telling you.) Second,you are explicitly agreeing to let the market track your purcheses when you get the card. (Spyware doesn't even ask.) Last, you are paid for that by the discounts you get. (Spyware gives back nothing.)

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  12. The criminal is in hideout. by ZoOnI · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I guess this means they won't be liable for any legal actions. I'd like to see a sopena of their records so we can see whom they sold their illegally gotten data. I wonder how many reputable businesses use this kind of info. They have the tools and infrastructure to start another venture on the lawless wild wild web, so we can expect to see them again when the heat is off, if this is more than postering.

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  13. Re:Next story... by Valdrax · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Actually a quote in the article does raise an interesting question about that:

    On July 1, Claria will shutdown the GAIN network and inform their users they can either uninstall their software or pay for it.

    So, does that mean that if you installed ad-supported freeware that uses Claria's spyware to help pay for it, that that's what they're talking about when the say "pay off or shut off?" Does that mean that they're going to trip off whatever mechanism prevents you from using such software after Claria's uninstalled without uninstalling the client software? What about software that uses multiple spyware vendors?

    Okay, well honestly, I don't really care that much about people careless enough to use programs that install spyware, but it does beg an interesting question of liability if they attempt to technologically enforce their suggestion that one should either pay or uninstall.

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  14. Chalk one up for Microsoft by republican+gourd · · Score: 4, Interesting

    At first glance, this move on Claria's part seems nonsensical. They are gutting their business model and walking away from a very lucrative source of revenue, all in the name of (more or less) doing the right thing.

    Well, here's the rub.

    Vista is coming in 2007. Vista is going to have antispyware built directly into the operating system. By 2009, when XP is going to be a minority OS as people's crummy hardware dies (helped along by spyware infestations), there isn't going to be a market for Claria's BS.

    They quite simply have no other choice but to cash out what they can and change their profit model. (Of course, this is assuming that the anti-spyware elements of Vista will work at all... but like it or not, MS *does* have a lot of very bright people, and preventing modifications to critical system files *should* be a bit of a no brainer.)

    Here's hoping that the party is over.

  15. Re:So what by Matilda+the+Hun · · Score: 4, Funny

    But now it comes in 6 new flavors!

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  16. How to disappear...the whole story by i_want_you_to_throw_ · · Score: 3, Funny

    Your inbox is awash in spam, your boss is chuckling over your credit report, and you've got a sneaking suspicion that Uncle Sam counts how many Löwenbräu you chug. Yes, your privacy's shot to hell, and you're tempted to shrug and settle for an open source life. But privacy isn't like virginity, forever lost after the first trespass. With some work, "reprivatization" is possible. Use this three-tiered guide to pick a level of solitude. But be warned: Going all the way off the grid is more Ted Kaczynski than Howard Hughes.

    Going

    Diss credit: Want to be hard to find? Start by dashing off stern opt-out letters to the big database companies and credit bureaus - Experian, Acxiom, Equifax. These folks may make a mint peddling personal info, but they can be cajoled into stopping. First, though, they'll make you jump through hoops - like filling out a 1040-sized form or idling in toll-free hell. Junkbusters (www.junkbusters.com) has a good list of opt-out addresses.

    Anonymize: Ditch your ISP and sign up with a service that lets you surf by proxy, keeping your IP address concealed. Send email via an anonymous remailer like Mixmaster, a digital middleman that scrambles timestamps and message sizes. And if you're going to be advocating the violent overthrow of the government or bragging about your cool new bong, make sure your remailer routes messages through multiple machines.

    Grok the fine print: Boring as it sounds, read the privacy statements that clutter your mailbox around tax time and sever ties with companies that admit, "Our privacy policy may change over time" - industry lingo for "We reserve the right to screw you."

    Going Further

    Ditch the digits:Want to drop out?Start by rustling up a new Social Security number.

    The Social Security Administration doesn't accept paranoia as a criterion for granting a new card, but it recognizes cultural objections and religious pleas. One stratagem: Contend that your credit has been irrevocably damaged by a number-related snafu, or that you live in fear of a stalker who knows your digits. Once you switch your SSN, never use it. Instead, dole out 078-05-1120, an Eisenhower-era card that works 99 percent of the time.

    Call cell-free: Use the humble pay phone. Mobile phones are being outfitted with global positioning satellite chips to comply with an FCC mandate. By 2006, all wireless networks must feature 911-friendly tracking technology. Marketers are cooking up ways to capitalize, like zapping burger coupons to your Nokia as you stroll by a fast-food joint.

    Pay full price: You may relish saving 10 percent on Prell, but deep-six your buyers' club cards. Supermarkets and pharmacies haven't yet perfected the art of data mining, but it won't be long. "If you're having a child custody fight, they could subpoena your frequent-shopper cards and say, 'Look, he's buying too many potato chips, he's hurting the kids,'" says Robert Gellman, a Washington-based privacy consultant.

    Gone

    Move: Want to go completely off the grid? Start by moving - address changes bedevil databasers. But don't buy a home. All those loan apps will blow your cover. Residential hotels smell like cheap cigars and urine, but at least you can register under a pseudonym. Give a fake address: 3500 S. Wacker, Chicago, IL, 60616 - the front door for Comiskey Park.

    Toss your cards:Pay cash for everything, and don't plan on a life of luxury. Any (legal) cash transaction more than $10,000 triggers government reporting regulations, which means you can forget about that Cadillac Escalade you've had your eye on. Settle for the subway or bus, using coins rather than prepaid fare cards, which keep a record of trips.

    Go incognito: Facial-recognition gear will soon be ubiquitous in public spaces. To fool the systems, invest in a pair of bulky aviator sunglasses and a hat. If you fear being tailed, alter your gait every time you hit the street - a pigeon-toed shuffle one day, a bowlegged amble the next. There are also Central American plastic surgery mills, beloved of drug lords, that can alter the loops and whorls on your fingertips. It'll set you back 10 Gs, but then, Costa Rican doctors have been known to accept gold Rolexes in lieu of cash.

  17. What really happens next... by jim_v2000 · · Score: 3, Funny

    March 27, 2006, GAIN becomes self aware......

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