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World-Wide Revolution Launch Unneeded

GamesIndustry.biz reports that, in the words of Nintendo President Iwata, a simultaneous global launch for the Nintendo Revolution is not necessary. From the article: "We don't think it's necessary to do the simultaneous worldwide launch simply because others are doing this." He also goes on to mention that they plan to have the DS shortage problem at least partially taken care of by the end of April.

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  1. Worldwide launches by CastrTroy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Worldwide launches are OK if you know you have enough units to make everyone happy, otherwise they aren't. Look at xbox 360. Tons of units sitting on the shelves in Japan, and people can't even find one in the US. Customers get very annoyed when they can't get something that's been released. Retailers get mad when customers leave their store empty handed because they don't have access to the products that the customers want.

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    1. Re:Worldwide launches by AKAImBatman · · Score: 1, Funny

      Look at xbox 360. Tons of units sitting on the shelves in Japan, and people can't even find one in the US.

      You can't? I was under the impression that they were also sitting on the shelves in the States. At least, that's the impression I get from local game stores...

    2. Re:Worldwide launches by engagebot · · Score: 1, Informative

      Agreed. Not much else to say really.

      I just saw my first 360 in a store yesterday. The super walmart had ONE core system. Oh well... Maybe one day MS will give me a reason to want one.

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    3. Re:Worldwide launches by Erwos · · Score: 2, Informative

      It's fairly common to put up a lot of empty boxes in a store front to act as advertising.

      That said, the supply situation, as you alluded to, is getting better. Once that's set, I would expect Microsoft to finally start marketing it heavily (there's been practically nothing going on the past few months).

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    4. Re:Worldwide launches by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

      Well, you can probably find them, now, but when they were released it was quite hard to find them. Many stores had them, but only bundled with crappy games and other stuff you didn't want. Finding the platinum system is still quite hard from what I understand. You can get the core system, but not a lot of people want that either. There was definite supply problems from the beginning. Had they only released in the US to start, they probably wouldn't have had any supply problems.

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    5. Re:Worldwide launches by AcidLacedPenguiN · · Score: 2, Informative

      There's like 30 360's (about half premium) in my town and I'm in a relatively small town (like 80,000 if you count all outlying areas) in Eastern Canada (New Brunswick).

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    6. Re:Worldwide launches by BigCheese · · Score: 1

      They had a whole bin full at Costco here last Saturday.

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    7. Re:Worldwide launches by JFMulder · · Score: 1

      Acutally, last week, from Wednesday to Friday, I've seen the supply of Premium 360s go from in stock (about 70 units) to out of stock twice on futureshop.com (bestbuy in the states). It seems they are getting new units almost everyday now. I simply walked in two stores also, one Futureshop and one local store and both had them in stock. Quite a few I might add.

    8. Re:Worldwide launches by Fr05t · · Score: 1

      Ah another New Brunswicker! I haven't seen any here in Fredericton, but I haven't been looking either :P

    9. Re:Worldwide launches by KDR_11k · · Score: 1

      That's funny because I'm seeing quite large stacks in Braunschweig, too. Must be the name.

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    10. Re:Worldwide launches by poot_rootbeer · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Retailers get mad when customers leave their store empty handed because they don't have access to the products that the customers want.

      Retailers can console (no pun intended) themselves with the knowledge that since consumers can't get the products elsewhere in the market either, it's not a lost sale yet; more likely just a deferred one.

      And if the three out of every ten customers who DO walk out with product in hand can be compelled to take x-hundred dollars' worth of add-on products with them as a condition of purchase, a product shortage isn't too bad for a retailer after all.

    11. Re:Worldwide launches by AuMatar · · Score: 1

      Depends on what you want. The core system has always been pretty readily available- noone wanted it. And judging from the secondary market (ebay), it can't be too hard to get them or the demand is really low- they go for barely above retail.

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    12. Re:Worldwide launches by AcidLacedPenguiN · · Score: 1

      now if we could just get someone from Brunswick, New Jersey to confirm. . .

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    13. Re:Worldwide launches by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I saw two of the ones that contain harddrives in the walmart here in Boone. It is also a college town which I think would be the target place for these.

  2. Good for who by Xiph · · Score: 3, Funny

    While worldwide launches are probably a bad thing for the customers. I think it's a very effective way of creating media hype. Then again Nintendo is more fan-consoles than oooh-they're-trendy-consoles.
    Kudos to them!

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    1. Re:Good for who by rabbitliberationfron · · Score: 1

      Worldwide launches are not bad for consumers. Badly managed worldwide launches are bad for consumers.

      Microsoft clearly did their research and knew how badly the staggered roll-outs are perceived within the markets towards the end of the roll-out. In addition, staggered roll-out was never really going to support the "global community" concept behind Live.

      I think it was the right thing for Microsoft to try. It's a pity they didn't get it right. Nintendo, on the other hand, don't need to try this tactic for quite a few reasons.

  3. Shortage problem? by Hamster+Lover · · Score: 1

    He also goes on to mention that they plan to have the DS shortage problem at least partially taken care of by the end of April.

    What shortage problem? I live in Canada and I see lots of them in stores. Is this a problem outside of North America?

    1. Re:Shortage problem? by tuffy · · Score: 1, Informative
      What shortage problem? I live in Canada and I see lots of them in stores. Is this a problem outside of North America?

      It's a problem in Japan where the original DS and DS Lite are in very short supply.

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    2. Re:Shortage problem? by astrokid · · Score: 3, Informative

      There has been a DS shortage over in Japan while manufacturing for the new DS Lite ramped up. It seems that both DS's are now in short supply with used machines being sold for the same price as new PSPs.

      The supply for DS Lites has been slowly increasing though and it's rumored that a big shippment is due within the next few weeks.

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    3. Re:Shortage problem? by Billhead · · Score: 1

      Not that I know of, I don't think I've ever seen them sold out.

    4. Re:Shortage problem? by falcon5768 · · Score: 1

      funny on the east coast I always see them sold out... its the PSP that you can throw a penny and hit 5 here.

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    5. Re:Shortage problem? by Billhead · · Score: 1

      Here on the west coast, I've never seen DS or PSP sold out at Costco, Fry's, Walmart, or anything of the like. I haven't went into a EB or GameStop for a while though so I can't say anything about those places.

    6. Re:Shortage problem? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At the Game Dev Conf last week, Iwata-san indicated that the release of the japanese versions of Brain Age (mental training game based on "Train Your Brain book) has been highly successful. They have sold over 1.8Mil copies of the 3 titles in the 1-6 months they have been out... mostly to people who did not own a DS before. So suddenly there is a whole huge new demand for the DS, already in tight supply gearing up to make the DS-lite (which is pretty nice device - they had lots of em at GDC for us to play)

    7. Re:Shortage problem? by Aranth+Brainfire · · Score: 1

      And, more important, how do you "partially" take care of a shortage problem? Either you have enough units, or you don't, I thought...

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    8. Re:Shortage problem? by ami-in-hamburg · · Score: 1

      I haven't noticed a shortage of any consoles or handhelds in Germany. They seem to be on the shelves in bulk.

      Of course that could be a bi-product of a really shitty economic situation and people just can't afford them.

  4. Poor Europe. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

    This is unlikely to mean delays for America-- with the DS, the American launch was before the Japan launch*, and Nintendo has been vaguely quoted as saying the Revolution launch will be "similar" to the DS one.

    This does, however, mean that Europe will be getting the Revolution probably a few months after the expected November-ish launch for Japan and America...

    * Although Japan's launch had a plethora of games America wouldn't get for another four or five months

    1. Re:Poor Europe. by Fred+Or+Alive · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I'm in the UK and we'll probably get screwed and get it months later (as with just about everything else except the Xbox 360, but that had it's own issues.[1]) Frankly, unless the Revolution's multi-region[2] I'll just get a US system anyway, they generally get the games earlier and cheaper. Especially as Nintendo's phase of releasing games early / first in Europe has gone away again, we seem to be back to several months wait even for "AAA" titles.

      [1] I'll belive Sony when they do it.
      [2] Ditto.

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    2. Re:Poor Europe. by hmccabe · · Score: 1

      Yes, but you'll have to learn English to play the games.

    3. Re:Poor Europe. by Fred+Or+Alive · · Score: 3, Funny

      Goddammit! I knew I should've paid more attention at school, all I learned was United Kingdomish. :-)

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  5. I knew the DS was big in Japan... by Hamster+Lover · · Score: 3, Interesting

    but not that big. Nintendo is making a killing and the new DS Lite and the coming Zelda are just going push things even higher I expect.

    A guy from work is willing to buy my DS for his daughter at a fair price if I want to trade up to the DS Lite. I guess a lot of children are asking their parents for them. My dentist will even loan one to you so that you can play other patients while they clean you teeth, fix a cavity, whatever.

    1. Re:I knew the DS was big in Japan... by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 4, Interesting

      "A guy from work is willing to buy my DS for his daughter at a fair price if I want to trade up to the DS Lite. I guess a lot of children are asking their parents for them."

      It's not just children. My gf isn't a gamer, but she loves Mario Kart. The DS was cheap enough for me to get her her own DS with her own copy of Mario Kart. (When I say 'cheap enough', I mean that if MK was a PSP game, she'd be out of luck.) We play the hell out of that game. She even goes on-line with it. Since then, I've gotten her a couple of other games.

      Nintendo has stated before they're trying to broaden their audience towards non-gamers. From where I sit, they're doing an excellent job. Long live Nintendo.

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    2. Re:I knew the DS was big in Japan... by KDR_11k · · Score: 3, Funny

      What game does your dentist provide, Trauma Center?

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    3. Re:I knew the DS was big in Japan... by Detritus · · Score: 2, Funny

      Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney :-)

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    4. Re:I knew the DS was big in Japan... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      She even goes on-line with it.


      ok, watchout, cause next she is going to meet some guy online and end up cheating on you, and then give you some VD.

    5. Re:I knew the DS was big in Japan... by earthbound+kid · · Score: 1

      Just wait until your dentist get the toothbrushing game for Revolution! :-D

  6. Next time.... by fistfullast33l · · Score: 1

    Buy em up, sell them on Ebay! And whatever you do, don't post it to /.

  7. Re:And yet... by porcupine8 · · Score: 2, Insightful
    To me this just says that they are trying to avoid another Xbox 360 launch scenario.

    You say that like it's a bad thing.

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  8. Re:And yet... by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

    "You say that like it's a bad thing."

    I don't think that's what he meant. I think he expected people to go apeshit over the possibility that some will have to wait longer than others for the Rev. If you put his reply into that context, it sounds more like he's saying "relax, a non-worldwide launch isn't necessarily a bad thing. Just look at what happened to the 360."

    I hope I'm not putting words into his mouth, but that's how I interpreted it.

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  9. Headlines...damn those headlines by killmenow · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Am I the only person who thinks Iwata is being quoted out of context? Perhaps he's saying they have other reasons for attempting a global launch and couldn't give two shits about what Microsoft and Sony are trying to do. It's like saying, "I don't think it's necessary to post comments on slashdot simply because others are doing this." Maybe I think it's necessary to post comments on slashdot because every post contains a link to my web site and I'm trying to bump up my page rank on google. But you could quote me as saying, "killmenow doesn't think posting on slashdot is necessary..." and add your stupid bit of guesswork that perhaps I'll stop.

    Perhaps...

  10. According to plan by Kulilin · · Score: 3, Informative

    Nintendo never said Revolution would launch worldwide exactly on the same date. Jim Merrick, Nintendo of Europe's Senior Director of Marketing, stated they hoped to launch Revolution globally within 14 weeks.

    1. Re:According to plan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That would beat the 360, which launched "globally" at the end of November and in Australia at the end of March (2 days ago).

  11. Re:And yet... by porcupine8 · · Score: 1

    Re-reading it, you're probably right. On the first reading, it sounded kind of like "Oh, they're trying to cover their asses because they know they can't deliver."

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  12. we don't think by angrymilkman · · Score: 0

    "We don't think it's necessary to do the simultaneous worldwide launch simply because others are doing this." Interesting line of reasoning: "We don't think it's necessary to become the market leader in console market simply because others are doing this." "We don't think it's necessary to breath simply because others are doing this." why didn't I think of this? These CEO's are really brilliant!

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    1. Re:we don't think by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      wow what a perfect analogy.

  13. No reason for Nintendo to consider it anyway by rabbitliberationfron · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I don't think it's particularly relevant for Nintendo to have considered it anyway. Consider the 360, the context was totally different:
    a) There were no direct competitors at launch. Other "competitors" were previous generation and the likely early adopters targeted at launch would most likely own at least one console from that generation.
    b) If it had worked, it would have been a hailed as a brilliant consumer friendly idea. Consumers in territories that receive the consoles last in the roll-out always feel left out. Microsoft wants everyone to feel "wanted". Remember, it is currently in second place.
    c) Microsoft could afford / were prepared to throw money at the logistics problem to (try to) solve it.
    d) The concept behind Live is of a global community, which does work better if everyone has access to consoles at the same time.

    Notice now, that Microsoft have upped the stakes too. They had a moderately low risk launch (so what if we're a few consoles short, there's nothing else to buy) in which they could try this out. Sony, on the other hand, now has to match that and better it. It's far from easy to manage. Although it would be a poke in the eye if they do.

    Nintendo, on the other hand, aren't even pitching at the same market as Microsoft / Sony. The (initial) audience for the Revolution will inevitably be smaller, just due to momentum from this generation of consoles. So why even introduce the pain? Far better to have a smoothly managed and *efficient* roll-out, than a painful and expensive one. If the Revolution is successful, it will achieve it through word of mouth, not big marketing budgets.

    BB

  14. No need for a world wide launch. by kyle+(in+stereo) · · Score: 1

    Microsoft did it simply to get a foothold in this gens "war". Sony is going to attempt it because they screwed up their Japanese launch. Note I said attempt. The fact that they are still showing fish and duck demos and there is sitll no finalized hardware or controller. Nintendo, on the other hand, dont need to do it. They arnt worried about hype, they arnt worried about media recognition, and they arnt worried about the MTV generation. Ill be upset if I dont see the system this year, but thats just how things go.

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