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360 To Be Relaunched In Japan

GamesIndustry.biz reports that Microsoft is planning to relaunch their next-gen console in Japan ... now that there are some games to offer players. The event is scheduled to happen in June, to coincide with that country's launch of Ghost Recon, among other titles. From the article: "It's not yet clear what form the relaunch might take - whether it will see the console's pricing or bundles being changed, or if it will simply be a new marketing campaign focused on the locally relevant software available for the system. Japan was the only territory where the Xbox 360 did not sell out at launch, despite having a smaller allocation than any other market, and in fact the launch underperformed by comparison with the launch of the original Xbox - itself hardly a stellar success story in the region."

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  1. Failure x 2 by xzanthar · · Score: 5, Funny

    Why fail something once, when you can fail it twice at twice the cost?

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    1. Re:Failure x 2 by Rosyna · · Score: 1

      Indeed. Luckily I was there for the first failure. I hope I can be there for the second one as well. OMGWTFBBQ?!

      But I hear Japan is humid as all hell in the summer.

    2. Re:Failure x 2 by antek9 · · Score: 1
      But I hear Japan is humid as all hell in the summer.


      That will just double the fun. Just image: FREE FIREWORKS INCLUDED a.k.a. _that_ power supply! It's fun, it's famous, it's HOT, so go and get one. Just remember to hang it directly in front of the air condition vent should you plan to actually USE the console.

      Enough of that, sorry. I loved the quote from the movie Contact in the GP post, though. That's what a first post should look like, maximum respec'!
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    3. Re:Failure x 2 by elrous0 · · Score: 1
      If you fail..fail, fail again.

      MS needs to stop wasting resources on the Japanses market. Japan is culturally inclined to ALWAYS support their own companies. All the relaunches, hype, advertising in the world isn't going to cause the Japanese to choose an American product over a Japanese one.

      -Eric

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  2. Good idea by Donniedarkness · · Score: 1
    I think this is a good idea.

    I blame the Xbox360's lackluster sales in Japan (and poor reviews in the states) on the fact that the release wasn't very impressive-- the games just weren't there. Now that they're building up a library, I think that more people will pay attention (the lack of games at launch were what kept me from buying a Nintendo DS). While I'm hardly an Xbox fan, I hope this move works for them.

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    1. Re:Good idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I also think it's a good idea - not because I think it'll work, but because it won't work and be a total waste for MS.

      Hopefully they'll abandon the Japan market entirely. It'll free up enough resources in their games division to make another console that doesn't have rushed, unreliable hardware, and also they'll no longer have an excuse for their "shortages" (use Japan as a dumping ground so you can hype up "day one sellouts" elsewhere, then ship the unused boxes back).

    2. Re:Good idea by Egregius · · Score: 1

      "(the lack of games at launch were what kept me from buying a Nintendo DS)"

      I assume you meant to say PSP, since the DS came with the entire Gameboy Advance library at launch, plus 11 DS only games at launch in North America. Eleven is a slightly above average number of launchtitles for a modern day console.

    3. Re:Good idea by Perseid · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's not about the number of games, and it's not even so much about the quality - it's what those games are. Microsoft completely failed to grab the Japanese audience with the original XBox and they swore up and down that they learned from their mistakes and wouldn't repeat them with the 360 in Japan. Lo and behold, they did repeat them.

      From our perspective, the Japanese play some weird-ass games like Shogi, Go, Horse Race Gambling, Mahjongg, and somtimes weird combinations of the 4. Microsoft doesn't seem to get this. The Japanese are fully aware that they don't get this and they find it offensive that this upstart American company expects them to buy a product that they clearly didn't bother to research enough to cater to them.

    4. Re:Good idea by Ed+State · · Score: 0

      "Unreliable hardware..." Wow. I'm surprised this misfo is still being bandied about. I'm not a MS fanboy by any means (gratuitous disclaimer), but I know several handfuls of people who have (and have had, for months) 360s and have had zero problems. Zilch. None. Nunca. And, as the reluctant early-ish adopter, I recently bought one too (luckily) and I gotta say, it's darn stable, very pretty, super user-friendly and (gasp!) darn impressive. Go figure. As for this re-launch. Good. Go. Suwatte Kudosai!

    5. Re:Good idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Microsoft is never going to get it. They just don't have what it takes, and even worse, they think that they do. They sent that company-killing fool Peter Moore out and he talked about superior cultural dominance during the Japanese 360 launch event, for FUCK'S sake. And now they want do-overs.

      They're finished as far as Japan is concerned. To paraphrase a post I made elsewhere, Microsoft Japan under Maruyama was trying to sell yellow ice to eskimos. Microsoft "fixed" the problem by replacing Maruyama with Sensui, and Sensui thinks a relaunch will do the trick. But the ice is still yellow. Boo.

      And of course, this is all such a non-issue in Japan. Nobody is crying emo tears over there. Nobody cares at all, actually. Revolution is set to WIPE JAPAN OUT, and PS3 is in fair position to take the rest of the world who still aren't sick of same old same old yet.

    6. Re:Good idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Give it a rest marketing clown.

      PS dummy, you're supposed to include the bogus "only 5 percent" figure in your astroturf posts!

    7. Re:Good idea by Ed+State · · Score: 0

      Go try and get laid, angry man. It's just a console.

    8. Re:Good idea by antek9 · · Score: 1

      Suwatte kudasai? As in, please take a seat? Is that what you meant to say, or would you be better off had you consulted a dictionary before hitting 'Submit'....? So many questions.

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    9. Re:Good idea by antek9 · · Score: 1

      You have to admire Nintendo's naming choice for their next console. Everyone and their little brother are waiting for the revolution these days... ;)

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    10. Re:Good idea by Parham · · Score: 1

      I've always thought that if True Fantasy Online was actually finished and released, that the XBox would have done a lot better in Japan and so would have the 360. They don't seem to have any sort of grip there.

    11. Re:Good idea by Ed+State · · Score: 0

      It was a joke... and yes, I did consult my J2A dictionary. Albeit briefly. You caught me ;)

  3. I guess this is what they mean by 500lb gorilla? by Frag-A-Muffin · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I guess this is what mean when they call Microsoft a 500lb gorilla bullying their way into whatever market they feel like dominating? I don't know any company that has deep enough pockets to go through this much effort to gain foothold in a particular region. (Albeit, a very important region). I would really like to know how much money they've spent in the Japanese marketon marketing and development. I heard they really beefed it up for the original 360 launch because of the dismal failure the original xbox was in Japan. Only to see it fail even worse. Hmm .. maybe you can't just through money at 'culture' and expect to win them over after all?

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  4. Some sage consulting wisdom... by bitbucketeer · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "Never time to do it right. Always time to do it twice." Saw this a lot as a consultant. Never rings truer!

    1. Re:Some sage consulting wisdom... by BJH · · Score: 1

      Too true.

  5. Heh by Daetrin · · Score: 2, Funny

    Didn't Nokia try that with the N-Gage?

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  6. Relaunching? by eviloverlordx · · Score: 2, Funny

    Does that mean it will be recrashing, too?

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  7. Which games appeal to Japanese? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What games does the 360 have that appeals to the Japanese market? I know MS must be smart, but this is just stupid. Do they really not get it?

  8. Ghost Recon? by wick3t · · Score: 1

    They're relaunching it to coincide with the launch of Ghost Recon? Again Microsoft show they have made no attempt to research the Japanese market.

    1. Re:Ghost Recon? by bigman2003 · · Score: 4, Funny

      You're right. Instead of the enemy being Mexican, they should have set it in China.

      Or Korea.

      That would have been much better localization.

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    2. Re:Ghost Recon? by identity0 · · Score: 1

      Nah, they should have just set it in Iraq, and involve dragging Japanese soldiers into battle against their will. That would be really popular over there.

      Oh, and their other launch titles should have been "Grand Theft Auto: Jap Car Smashing", "Fable II: The RPG With No Bishies, Schoolgirls or Giant Robots", "Medal of Honor: The Yellow Peril", and "Stomp Baby Puppies To Prove Your Manhood III".

      It might also help if their marketing ran a lot of ads snickering that the PS2 and GC are less fun because "their controllers are smaller".

  9. Re:I guess this is what they mean by 500lb gorilla by lovedew · · Score: 2, Funny

    maybe you can't just through money at 'culture' and expect to win them over after all

    Unless you got a Great Artist to culture bomb a city.

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  10. Whoops by Traiklin · · Score: 0

    so they are calling for a do over...Game informer actually got it right in their Game Infarcer joke section...that's sad.

    I wonder if they will call for a third try when the Mistwalker RPG's are released and 99 knights come out.

    Oh wait, Tom Clancy's Ghost recon Advance warfighter is just now getting released in japan? Hell I can understand why they want a do over, That game is really going to push 360's in japan, Everyone knows how well FPS' are recived in japan after all.

    1. Re:Whoops by NeMon'ess · · Score: 1

      From TFA:
      As well as the four titles mentioned above, Microsoft will also be hoping to stimulate interest in the console with the imminent releases of Rumble Roses and Ninety-Nine Nights, both of which are due to arrive in the next month.

      The relaunch is happening _after_ one of those games comes out.

  11. Ghost Recon!? by Sean0michael · · Score: 4, Insightful
    The event is scheduled to happen in June, to coincide with that country's launch of Ghost Recon, among other titles.

    Japan doesn't need or want a FPS game like Ghost Recon. What they want is Brain Training and Nintendogs. They want Final Fantasy and Kingdom Hearts. They want Zelda and Mario.

    If the second launch doesn't include any new genres, then I expect it to succeed as much as the first one. That is to say, not at all.

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    1. Re:Ghost Recon!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >>Japan doesn't need or want a FPS game like Ghost Recon. What they want is Brain Training and Nintendogs. They want Final Fantasy and Kingdom Hearts. They want Zelda and Mario.

      Microsoft wil keep trying until the Japanese market start to love FPS's and below-average-generic-RTS's as much as the American market. You go Microsoft!

      There's a wise saying: quitters never win. Or was it: quit while you're ahead...?

    2. Re:Ghost Recon!? by DrEldarion · · Score: 1

      I think you're looking for the Japanese one - "The nail that sticks out will be struck down."

  12. I might try to pick one up, again... by HaloZero · · Score: 1

    Once GhostRecon comes out. I'm in the States, not Japan, I'd like to point out, but GhostRecon's latest offering seems like a very attractive title. And, of course, now that Oblivion is out...

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    1. Re:I might try to pick one up, again... by Osty · · Score: 1

      Once GhostRecon comes out. I'm in the States, not Japan, I'd like to point out, but GhostRecon's latest offering seems like a very attractive title. And, of course, now that Oblivion is out...

      So you're picking one up, right? Because GRAW has been out for a couple weeks now. Also, the 360 stocking situation has improved significantly, so you have a very good chance of finding one without having to camp.

      I've been enjoying Oblivion on my 360 for the past week. No way would that run on any of my PCs.

    2. Re:I might try to pick one up, again... by elrous0 · · Score: 1
      Also, the 360 stocking situation has improved significantly

      I'm still not seeing this. Are any of the online retailers actually offering them for sale now (outside of ridiculously overpriced "bundles", that is)? I checked just the other day and the premium system was still listed as "out of stock" at every online retailer (nor was it available in any of my local stores). Best Buy actually had it listed as "Coming Soon" as if it hadn't even been *released* yet, lol

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  13. Final Fantasy XI on 360 by TheZorch · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Final Fantasy XI is slated to be released next month on the Xbox 360 along with the release of the Treasures of Aht Urhgan expansion. I've heard rumors that MS plans to ship 360s in Japan with FFXI already installed on the hard drives to boost sales. PS2 and PC users (I use the PC version) will need to get the expansion while the 360 version will already include it.

    FFXI on the 360 looks just like FFXI on a high-end PC with high-res textures and bumpmapping. The overall artwork won't look that different than the PS2 version but it will not be quite as fuzzy and will look better. Its expected that there will a PS3 version since its inconceivable that SquareEnix would abandon their VAST army of current PS2 users.

    FFXI: Treasures of Aht Urhgan for the PC and PS2 is coming out April 30th similtaneously in Japan and the US.

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    1. Re:Final Fantasy XI on 360 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The 360 was already launched with the beta ffxi 360 version, we may probably never know if it helped alot or not however.

      Also, the expansion comes out worldwide (ok, just Japan, US and Europe as far as i'm aware) on the 18th of April, not the 30th.

  14. Marketing Speak by Headcase88 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What is this "relaunch"? A console can only launch once.

    Are they going to bundle a game with it? Nintendo's done that with the Gamecube like 4 times and they weren't called "relaunches". Are they going to ship more consoles? No... that's not neccessary. Are they going to market it agressively? That's still not a "relaunch", that's a "marketing campaign".

    Maybe it's just a different interpretation of the word "launch". To me it means "the first time you sell your product to the public". Maybe to them the meaning is "the first time the public buys your product".

    Sure, I'm looking too much into this, but a term like "re-launch" peeves me. It's like how the little things got to the Seinfeld gang.

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    1. Re:Marketing Speak by NeMon'ess · · Score: 1

      All I'm seeing is the phrasing "relaunch." Is MS calling it a "launch"? Because they can relaunch the 360 over and over again, just like I can reheat a bowl of soup over and and over again. There is nothing misleading about a "relaunch", only if they call it a second "launch."

    2. Re:Marketing Speak by 2008 · · Score: 1

      You can reheat chicken soup but you can't rekill a chicken.

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    3. Re:Marketing Speak by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      Unless they're...

      ZOMBIE CHICKENS!

      Oh my gods, we're all going to die!!!!

      Ahem... sorry... the goofiness of the day is getting to me.

    4. Re:Marketing Speak by Thing+1 · · Score: 1

      Well, the term "FCS" means "first customer shipment", so, in Japan at least, Microsoft is hoping for their "SCS". ;-)

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    5. Re:Marketing Speak by NeMon'ess · · Score: 1

      Yes I could if I had really small paddles to restart it's heart after I strangled it.

  15. Re:I guess this is what they mean by 500lb gorilla by Keeper · · Score: 1

    Microsoft realizes and understands that the Japaneese market is HUGE; capturing a decent portion of that market brings devs to the table that focus on game genre's American / European developers traditionally avoid.

    They'll never be #1 if they give up on the Japaneese market. Likewise, it would be rediculous to invest all of that money and give up at the first sign of trouble -- a "relaunch" is cheap -- well worth the risk compared to the outcome of "giving up".

  16. FIFA X360 bundle by iridium_ionizer · · Score: 1

    http://www.gamespot.com/news/6146924.html

    The Xbox360 will be bundled with EA's 2006 FIFA World Cup along with face plates that match Japan's national soccer team's colors and some accessories. I can imagine other themed bundles will soon follow.

  17. Re:I guess this is what they mean by 500lb gorilla by happyemoticon · · Score: 1

    500 lbs is too generous with Microsoft. 800-1000 lbs is the more common figure ascribed to them.

  18. Re:I guess this is what they mean by 500lb gorilla by AaronBrethorst · · Score: 1

    i wish i had the points to mod you up...that just made me crack up. :-)

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  19. You can only launch a product once by HalAtWork · · Score: 1

    You can only launch a product once. There's no such thing as a re-launch. After that, you're just making a new campaign. This is just a way of making it seem like the console is going to get a fresh start with new direction. But really, it's just changing the direction of the old campaign and re-focusing attention on the console in hopes that people will forget all of the opinions surrounding the console's launch.

    1. Re:You can only launch a product once by Deifen · · Score: 1

      Since when has Microsoft followed the rules or even commonsense. Actually this is the only way that they can hope to stop the PS3 from having a great launch. At first they said that Halo3 would win some prospective PS3 buyers, but if no one in Japan has a x-box then that won't help.

  20. MS should stick to selling where it's WANTED by elrous0 · · Score: 1
    Listen, MS will *NEVER* win over the Japanese market because the Japanese are a notoriously racist and nationalistic people. They are simply NEVER going to buy into an American company over a Japanese one, period. MS could release nothing BUT Japanese-centric games and Japanese consumers still wouldn't buy a 360.

    I really wish MS would concentrate their efforts on the U.S. and Europe. Why on earth are they wasting their time with this crap when they still don't have enough players to stock American or European retailers?!?! Forget your stupid relaunch Bill! Turn those ships around, and put those players in stores where people actually WANT them.

    -Eric

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