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The Data Accountability and Trust Act (DATA)

An anonymous reader writes "The U.S. House of Representatives will soon be considering the Data Accountability and Trust Act (DATA). If passed it would require all companies to inform customers of security breaches that affect their personal data. The bill requires consumers to be told if their privacy has been violated because of a breach. Under the proposals, if a breach does occur, a company must notify any customers concerned and the FTC, which can then demand an audit."

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  1. Long Overdue by TripMaster+Monkey · · Score: 5, Insightful


    It's about time a law like this was enacted.

    On the average, I tend towards favoring less legislation, rather than more, but the simple fact is since it is not in the companies' best interests to disclose information about security failures, it can't be too much of a shock when they decide not to. This law is necessary to safeguard the information that citizens entrust to these companies, and given how inextricably our society is intertwined with the digital realm in this day and age, it's way overdue.

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    1. Re:Long Overdue by amliebsch · · Score: 2, Insightful
      It should be implied as interpreted through our Constitution, and amendments, etc.

      What? How? You can't just pretend those documents say something they don't. Well, you shouldn't.

      We can't publish sensitive data from a major corporation on the Internet, or we would get sued.

      What makes you think that?That being said, it should be implied, understood, and common practice to prevent big business from doing some of the things that they should be doing in the first place (privacy violations, overcharging, bastardly interest rates, etc).

      What is the advantage to having regulation be "implied, understood, and common practice" as opposed to clearly spelling it out in statute?

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    2. Re:Long Overdue by TubeSteak · · Score: 3, Informative

      This is going to lead to a certain amount of data hysteria once it gets passed.

      Since most people don't know that shit like this happens on a regular basis, once it starts getting reported regularly, the news media is going to pick up and run with it.

      "Your information is unsafe" will become a new media theme, along with "kids shooting up schools", "female teachers sleeping with students" and "pretty white girl goes missing".

      BTW - businesses cannot go around redefining "breach" or "personal information", because the bill defines exactly what those are.

      If you read the text of the bill they've dodged out on specifying some of the trickier parts by using language like "Not later than 270 days after the date of enactment of this Act" to require the definition of certain aspects of the bill. Very poor idea, as it gives the lobbyists something to aim at weakening.

      It's sponsored by a Republican from Florida and co-sponsored by a stack of other R's. Good idea, possibly poor implementation.

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    3. Re:Long Overdue by cayenne8 · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I think a MUCH better law, would be to legislate that one's personal data belongs to THEM, and that any company has to ask permission to house such, and MUST request permission to sell personal data or offer it for sale at all.

      If you could enforce personal data privacy, a great deal of this industry of gathering and selling personal data would dry up...and therefore there would be less personal data spread all over the spectrum with dubious security protecting it.

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    4. Re:Long Overdue by Hrodvitnir · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Since most people don't know that shit like this happens on a regular basis, once it starts getting reported regularly, the news media is going to pick up and run with it.

      Don't worry, after a couple months it will become such a beaten dead horse, everyone will think "Oh, this stuff happens all the time. My chances of having my identity stolen are next to nil." And the notice gets tossed in the trash never to be worried about again.

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    5. Re:Long Overdue by amliebsch · · Score: 3, Interesting
      The same law that prevents me from spying on my neighbor, and collecting information about him

      But what law would that be? I am not aware of laws that prohibit you from logging what your neighbor does, or watching him from your property. You can't trespass on his property of course, or steal his garbage - but what law prevents you from tracking all information he allows to flow onto your property?

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    6. Re:Long Overdue by Philip+K+Dickhead · · Score: 2, Funny

      What is LOOONNnnggg overdue is the use of "GNU"-style recursive names in government.

      How about naming the country USANUS - "the United States Are Not United States"? :-)

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    7. Re:Long Overdue by tezza · · Score: 2, Interesting
      You said: I think a MUCH better law, would be to legislate that one's personal data belongs to THEM,

      Thighter definition is required than what you propose. I admire your sentiment, I really do. But it will never fit into law.

      Look at patent law. The idea of "An Invention" is left undefined in the law. And this leads to a lot of scope creep.

      If the law was defined as you mentioned, where do you draw the boundary of "Personal Data"?

      e.g.:
      Eye Colour
      Retina Pattern
      A fingerprint
      A fingerprint and the finger it comes from
      Your first name
      Your full name

      You can bet your last pence that Direct Marketers would start the scope creep to etch away at what would be considered Personal Data, and you will end up with those fuckwits STILL protected by law and still unaccountable.

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  2. Across corporate America by tropicdog · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I predict that the definition of "breach" is being redefined in boardrooms across the land. If it doesn't meet the new definition, they won't have to report it. Same old song and dance.

  3. wtf by Thaelon · · Score: 2

    How the hell would you know if this law was ever broken if they don't tell anyone?

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  4. Re:So how much is this going to cost? by Theatetus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You work for ChoicePoint or something?

    Why the hell do people bristle so much at corporate regulation? A corporation is chartered by the state; it's not like you have some God-given right to run whatever business organization you want in whatever way you want without somebody watching what you do.

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  5. Exemption... by Olmy's+Jart · · Score: 4, Insightful

    But it's got a gotcha. There's an exemption if they encrypt their data - even if the encryption is lame or broken. If they encrypted their data, they don't have to notify anyone. That's a loophole to drive a world class semi through. And there are fears that it will superceed laws like those in some states, such as California, which have no such exemption.

    1. Re:Exemption... by Billosaur · · Score: 2, Insightful
      But it's got a gotcha. There's an exemption if they encrypt their data - even if the encryption is lame or broken. If they encrypted their data, they don't have to notify anyone. That's a loophole to drive a world class semi through. And there are fears that it will superceed laws like those in some states, such as California, which have no such exemption.

      Even if the encryption isn't lame or broken, it's still data out there on the loose. How long would it take to crack, given all the available information on encryption? There are precious few "uncrackable" encryption schemes and I doubt most major corporations are going to go to those lengths to protect data. From what I've seen behind the scenes, most will use tricks and simple algorithms, figuring it makes the data "mostly" secure.

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    2. Re:Exemption... by amliebsch · · Score: 4, Informative
      There's an exemption if they encrypt their data - even if the encryption is lame or broken.

      It doesn't say that! Stop making stuff up.

      The term `encryption' means the protection of data in electronic form in storage or in transit using an encryption algorithm implemented within a validated cryptographic module that has been approved by the National Institute of Standards and Technology or another comparable standards body recognized by the Commission, rendering such data indecipherable in the absence of associated cryptographic keys necessary to enable decryption of such data. Such encryption must include appropriate management and safeguards of such keys to protect the integrity of the encryption.

      Now perhaps there are encryption algorithms approved by the NIST that you feel are not sufficiently strong - though you haven't given any examples - but to claim that you can use any old encryption algorithm is FUD, pure and simple.

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  6. Re:So how much is this going to cost? by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The problem is, if they're going to have to 'fess up, but then get away with nothing more than a slap on the wrist anyway, then this law is unlikely to do much to improve the security of personal information and the integrity with which it is handled. What they ought to do, IMHO, is enact a law that both requires disclosure and hits the offender with a financial penalty proportionate to the damage caused and the degree to which the offender's negligence caused it.

    If a business carelessly loses 1,000 customers' credit card details but then gets hit with a dent to their bottom line of 1,000 x $AVERAGE_COST_PER_CARD_FRAUD + $COSTS_INCURRED_BY_AUDITORS + $SIGNIFICANT_PENALTY_CHARGE, then maybe it will become enough of a priority on the executive radar to do something about it. Similarly, if identity thefts or other more serious consequences arise, the costs of cleaning those up can be incorporated into the penalty; naturally, this should include compensation for the time spent by the affected individuals and any third parties they had to deal with to fix the problem.

    At the same time, this approach removes the financial burden of conducting after-disaster audits from the taxpayer, and passes it onto the offending party instead.

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  7. Definition is everything by irishxpride · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm curious as to what will be defined as "personal data." Email address? What about MRU lists or cookies? Also what's the definition of "notify." Does it count as notification if the company puts a one line blurb at the bottom of it's website? This legislation may be utilitarian in spirit, but I fear the letter of the law will change little. Business as usual...

  8. Existing medical laws by PIPBoy3000 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    At my organization, we recently passed some policies around the release of medical information. Essentially we're complying with existing laws in Washington, where we have hospitals, so mostly we're being consistent across our organization.

    What it means is that if medical information somehow gets outside of our organization without our permission, we need to notify patients. This can get extremely expensive in cases where large amounts of records get lost or stolen. There's an exception in the law that lets us publish ads in major papers instead of sending out letters. I think the barrier is around a million dollars or so before we switch to ads.

    Is this a good thing? My son's medical information was on some backup tapes stolen from the back of a car from a different healthcare organization. I personally don't care about it and it's unlikely the information gets used for malicious purposes. The cost for sending all the letters was in the hundreds of thousands of dollars most likely. Costs like that would bankrupt small organizations, though in today's healthcare market, it's becoming the price of doing business.

    What'll probably happen is that big organizations will bear the cost of this in stride, while smaller organizations will have yet another risk that might shut them down at any moment.

  9. From The Bill: by TubeSteak · · Score: 3, Insightful
    http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c109:H.R.412 7:
    Sec 5. (1) ...The encryption of such data, combined with appropriate safeguards of the keys necessary to enable decryption of such data, shall establish a presumption that no such reasonable basis exists. Any such presumption may be rebutted by facts demonstrating that the method of encryption has been or is likely to be compromised
    That's a great clause, even though it opens the door to conflicting expert opinions. They absolutely have to include a reporting mechanism into the law, so that there is a timely way to get the issue heard and resolved.
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  10. What's more scary for me... by laplandsix · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Is slipshod security practices within a company. Sure security breaches are pretty damn scary, but I've worked with some PRETTY big company who had some pretty lousy security practices, and should know better. I recently worked with a HUGE payroll company to outsource my employer's payroll to them. The task fell to me to export all the data from our existing payroll system, perform some data hygene, and send it to this payroll company in delimeted format.

    They suggested that I simply attach the .tab files to an email and email them on over. I balked a that suggestion. We've got full names, DOB, SSN, address, tax information, bank account numbers, the WORKS! They wanted me to transmit the files in the clear to their email where who knows how long this info will sit in their outlook inbox, and how MANY people will see it. I made some rather more secure suggestions, but in the end we settled on password protected .zip files hosted on a password protected webpage. Pretty feeble security if you ask me, but WORLDS better than what they wanted.

    I guess the point I'm trying to make is most companies don't give a SHIT about your data. They'll play along and act like they do, but implementing proper internal security practices is HARD and EXPENSIVE. This law is a step in the right direction, but it simply isn't enough.

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  11. Re:Recursive Acronym! by amliebsch · · Score: 3, Informative

    I don't think it counts as recursive, because the "Data" that is in the name of the act is NOT referring to the acronym "DATA," it's referring to the actual word "Data." To be recursive, an acronym must be self-referential, but this one is not.

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  12. DATA Breach Timescape by digitaldc · · Score: 5, Funny

    PICARD: What's the problem, Mister Data?

    Data turns to them.

    DATA: I believe I have discovered the cause of the identity theft. There is a hard core data data breach in progress.

    They react. Data indicates the phishing email on the screen. They walk up to it...

    DATA: It is the flashpoint of a privacy invasion. And it is expanding.

    PICARD: Expanding... I thought phishing scams were suspended on this ship?

    DATA: We were incorrect. I have determined that email scams are moving forward at an infinitesimal rate.

    TROI:Why didn't we notice it before?

    DATA: Our initial conclusion was based on our observations of the crew. A data breach moves at a much faster rate. The motion of the email is within my neural detection threshold. Based on its current expansion rate, it will consume the crew's identity in approximately nine hours, seventeen minutes.

    PICARD: Is there any way we can stop it?

    DATA: It is no longer a question of stopping it, sir. The explosion of phishing email has already occurred -- The fact that it is moving slowly changes nothing.

    Picard stares at the screen for a long moment...becoming very thoughtful...

    PICARD: Astonishing... to see our identities stolen like this...

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  13. Coming soon to a workstation near you by PrvtBurrito · · Score: 5, Funny

    Dear PrvtBurrito,

    We recently noticed that your PayPal account was compromised. As required by law we are informing you of this breach. In order to reprocess your new secure account, please log in to PayPal and rectify this situation:

    [Click here to update your account]

    If you choose to ignore our request, you leave us no choise but to temporaly suspend your account. We ask that you allow at least 72 hours for the case to be investigated and we strongly recommend to verify your account in that time.

    Thank you for using PayPal (or whatever service is being spoofed)!

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  14. US Dept of Acronaming UDA by rakerman · · Score: 3, Funny

    Is it just me, or do these legislators spend more time thinking up clever titles that spell out words than on the actual content of the bills?

  15. Re:The gov by bubbasatan · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Apparently, there was a recent security breach relating to a computer housing data from one of the retirement programs in the state of Georgia. Data was stolen, including names, SSNs, banking info, etc, and the state sent a form letter with applications for retrieving credit scores. Although this isn't quite the same as what you are saying, it is a breach that occurred on the government's watch. Do government agencies have the same notification duties as companies under this new legislation? Who holds government accountable when their data security is inadequate and/or fails?

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  16. Secure Transactions by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I want that law to define "security breach" to include any disclosure of personal info outside the immediate transaction into which the person delivered their info. To apply copyright protection to personal info, licensed for copying by the recipient solely to complete that immediate transaction. People pay for a huge public infrastructure to protect corporate info, including commercialized copyrights. We should have at least the same strength protection on our own info. Until corporations have that strong financial incentive to protect even one person's data, they will of course take the cheaper/profitable course, which exposes people to damage.

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  17. Re:Unconstitutional and Unnecessary by Ph33r+th3+g(O)at · · Score: 2, Informative
    This is an unnecessary law. If you make a contract to trade with a party, put in the agreement that you want your information to be private and you want them to notify you of any breach of that agreement. If the company won't do business with you, don't buy from them -- if you want a cheap price, you might be willing to forgo this contract feature.

    That's nice in theory, but one of the reasons we have government regulation is to help mitigate the asymmetry of power that prevents individuals from ever negotiating contract terms at all with companies that hold their data, much less terms about privacy. This legislation flows from the same river as the FCRA, FDCPA, and FACTA -- it addresses abuses of individual customers (a.k.a. "consumers" or "cattle") by the industry when the market has failed.

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  18. Re:Unconstitutional and Unnecessary by dada21 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    it addresses abuses of individual customers (a.k.a. "consumers" or "cattle") by the industry when the market has failed.

    I don't believe the market has failed in terms of privacy -- it is the mountain of previous regulations that have given preferential treatment to companies with ties to government. As an entrepreneur myself, I know how bad it is to get into many markets -- it is not competition that scares people off, it is excessive regulations.

    Most of the acronyms you listed have their basis in previous regulations that failed, or previous favoritism ("cronyism") that created a maze that prevented competition from entering the market that you say failed. I have no hope in new laws fixing any problems at all, they'll just make things worse so the door is opened for more laws in the future.

  19. Re:So how much is this going to cost? by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 2, Interesting
    ChoicePoint

    They created an entire new division that ONLY deals with privacy and security issues, have institued a number of new policies, ALL employess now go through extensive background checks (causing my team to have to turn down a couple of otherwise good applicants due to irregularities that they couldn't explain) and a $10 million fine at the end of last year.

    Sure, but were the various security improvements because of bad PR, or because they didn't want another $10M fine?

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  20. Re:why the hell? natural cynicism! by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Alternately you could argue that you don't trust any company, and would want them to undergo expensive and painful audits - and that you'd be happy as a consumer to pay for that...

    You mean there are people out there that actually trust, private companies?!!

    Private companies are the most untrustworthy entities on planet earth. They exist for one reason and one reason only, making money by whatever means necessary. If your "trust" in them stands in the way, they'll gladly walk all over it. Nay, eagerly. At least Mob bosses and pimps have some kind of reputation to keep together. Private companies have no such scruples.

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  21. Bill would be unconstitutional by TonyXL · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Congress has no authority to regulate this. If a particular state wanted to pass such an act, and they were within their constitutional limits to do so, then fine.

    The better option would be for customers to only deal with companies who have a legal agreement to disclose breaches.

  22. Government Databases: BAD by Plugh · · Score: 2, Insightful
    It's nice that consumers would be notified when our ostensibly private data has been spilled by businesses.
    But that's chump change compared to the damage that gets caused when government databases' content is lost, or unprotected.

    Now, given that:

    • Private businesses have a huge motive to avoid losing data -- when they do, customers are free to go elsewhere (and we do!)
    • You're not free to "go elsewhere" when your Government loses your data
    • Governments are likely to have way more sensitive and intrusive data than private businesses
    • You typically know exactly what info, say, the credit card company has about you. You typically have no idea what info the government has about you.
    • No database is 100% secure, no data is 100% safe -- especially not from humans with administrative access and plenty of reasons to leak the data
    • Which do you trust to get IT right: a make-or-break project for a company, or Yet Another Government Project?

    With all the above in mind, surely it makes sense to limit what data the Government collects, and to keep that data compartmentalized in local databases, rather than a nice, juicy, massive, single federal instance? Right!?!?!

    Yet, that's exactly what is happening right now, with the "Real-ID" bill. (Here's what Bruce Schneier has to say on that).

    Every single U.S. State except one has lined up like crack addicts to accept the federal money to implement Real-ID. That one State is New Hampshire, aka the Free State.

    Here's a link to some pretty cool info about how and why the NH House rejected Real-ID:
    http://freestateblogs.net/node/306