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Integrating Technology Into a Long Trip?

xsalmon asks: "I am about to undergo a long trip around the continental United States, via hiking/cycling/walking and other self-propelled means of transportation, to raise money toward AIDS/HIV research. What kind of utilities/devices would you bring to increase safety/security? I'll be hauling enough in my backpack as-is, so any suggestions would have to be lightweight and portable enough. Any ideas?"

89 comments

  1. Security? by Noodlenose · · Score: 1
    I don't know what kind of illusions you have which electronic gadget might protect you from a mugging, but common sense dictates a mobile phone to call 911 and an Ipod so you can listen to podcasts until the cops arrive.

    The mugger of course might have already made off with those two.

    1. Re:Security? by ztuni · · Score: 0

      Better yet, try two cell phones, and two ipods.... one set for the robber to steal, and the other for after he takes off

    2. Re:Security? by vertinox · · Score: 1

      I don't know what kind of illusions you have which electronic gadget might protect you from a mugging,

      Well... Its called a 400 volt TASER.

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    3. Re:Security? by nurb432 · · Score: 1

      How about taking along a 9mm? That would help insure your security quite a bit. much more then a cell phone....

      Sure, its illegal in some areas, but would you rather be dead or explaning to a judge? some areas of the country you dont get a second chance out there 'on the street'.

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    4. Re:Security? by Noodlenose · · Score: 1
      These self-defence stunts often go wrong and you and up with an angry and vengeful mugger (and his friend, waiting around the corner).

      Rather give him the gear and save yourself.

    5. Re:Security? by paulius_g · · Score: 1

      Oh no! A moderator's worst nightmare.

      I don't know wether to mod it as Informative or Funny.

      Where are you CmdrTaco when we need you?

    6. Re:Security? by meringuoid · · Score: 1
      The mugger of course might have already made off with those two.

      I have two phones in my pocket right now. An old, battered pay-as-you-go phone in such a state that no mugger would touch it - it's scarcely worth the time it would take to fence - and a new, flashy, expensive contract phone which they'd grab without a doubt.

      This isn't actually done out of paranoia, just because I haven't got around to transferring the number from the old phone to the new yet. Security through laziness, the new paradigm :-)

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    7. Re:Security? by VernonNemitz · · Score: 1

      Suppose you sometimes lock your bicycle with a chain through a wheel, but not actually chained through something (might not be a convenient anchor available). Obviously a potential thief could lift the whole bike into a pickup truck for later sawing-of-chain. But you can make the bike more theft-proof by making it heavier and more unwieldy, by getting a bike trailer for it. I saw one the other day that some mom was using to tote her kid, and she said she got it at Wal-Mart, but you could get something more appropriate for hauling stuff on your trip--and presumably it would have a locking hitch and a locking storage compartment. Of course it is possible to go overboard on the pedal-powered tech gear, as this guy did.

  2. A few links by Marxist+Hacker+42 · · Score: 2, Informative

    I'd take a PocketPC or PalmOS PDA Phone and a Bluetooth GPS and a 4GB Microdrive, combined with some nice Hiking maps. And maybe some nice bright flashing toys from ThinkGeek. For Self-protection, I'd want a Taser. Oh yeah, and a Sidewinder so that I don't have to find a power supply for any of this stuff.

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    1. Re:A few links by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      As popular as they might be for cheap car navigation, PDAs are not a good choice for hiking/biking. Dedicated handheld GPS devices are waterproof, more robust, run longer on a single battery charge and are easier to use, maintain and recharge because they're just one device, not two. And they usually have better outdoor-suitable displays, which is probably a killer argument all by itself. The latest models use the same Sirf III chipset which makes the reception of the bluetooth GPS mice so great.

    2. Re:A few links by Marxist+Hacker+42 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The key here is that you're going to have two devices regardless- having a PDA that doubles as a cell phone, or a GPS unit that doubles as a PDA, is a good thing either way. Of course, you can't play tetris at night in your tent on a GPS unit- remember he said a LONG trip.

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    3. Re:A few links by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you can't play tetris at night in your tent on a GPS unit

      If you made that a priority, you probably could, but you won't. On such a trip, the last thing on your mind is to waste time on addictive computer games. If you have to have a computer-like device for email and web, get the PDA phone, but instead of the Bluetooth GPS mouse, get a self contained GPS device. Otherwise the PDA will be drained powerless from navigating when you want to check mail or it will leave you without directions when you're lost because you did check mail earlier. Actually I'm in favor of clearly separating the phone function as well, because the phone and the GPS are really important, the PDA is just a toy (in the sense that it won't help you complete the trip safely). As someone who's used both, PDA and handheld GPS, I think the handheld GPS wins hands down. You'll quickly regret choosing a PDA when you're in sunshine (because you can't read the display) or rain (because it's not waterproof). You're lucky if you get 4 hours of battery life with a PDA (Bluetooth enabled...), which isn't even half a day on the road. A dedicated GPS device easily runs twice as long, usually much longer, which does cover a day, or several if you don't want a complete tracklog and use the GPS sparingly.

    4. Re:A few links by Marxist+Hacker+42 · · Score: 1

      What the PDA can do that will help you complete the trip safely, is hold more highly detailed maps- by an order of magnitude. And the sidewinder takes care of that pesky battery issue.

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    5. Re:A few links by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I'm usually game for gadgets and maximum flexibility, so don't think I dismiss the PDA approach because I'm some kind of freak who doesn't want the civilized world to interfere with a beautiful trip back to nature or somesuch. But a 5000 mile trip is serious business and a plastic crank generator isn't. PDAs are built for suit pockets and indoor use, not handlebars in the rain. All I'm saying is, if you're about to go on a cross country cycling tour with cubicle warrior tech, please test your equipment on a shorter trip first.

    6. Re:A few links by Dausha · · Score: 1

      "For Self-protection, I'd want a Taser."

      Taser screams "take this and use it on me." Much better to carry a S&W or Glock. However, in either case (Taser, gun) you won't be able to go into D.C. and other non-gun owner-friendly states.

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    7. Re:A few links by burwaco · · Score: 1

      I'd take a PocketPC or PalmOS PDA Phone [palm.com] and a Bluetooth GPS [socketcom.com] and a 4GB Microdrive [hitachigst.com], combined with some nice Hiking maps [gpsinformation.org]. And maybe some nice bright flashing toys from ThinkGeek. [thinkgeek.com] For Self-protection, I'd want a Taser [taser.com]. Oh yeah, and a Sidewinder [thetravelinsider.info] so that I don't have to find a power supply for any of this stuff. Yeah, and some "second skin" http://www.nevisport.com/catlist-3-catlist1_id-71- catlist2_id-509 for your thumb after recharging all your stuff...

    8. Re:A few links by The+Wooden+Badger · · Score: 1

      Taser says take this and use it on me? The person holding it says take this and use it on me. It doesn't matter if it's a taser, a gun, or a switchblade. If you are holding it and the attacker can read that you aren't going to use it, the attacker has already won and the weapon will be used against you. That being said, I vote taser. It is non-lethal in virtually all circumstances, so people will be more likely to use it when push comes to shove.

      I think taking note of the Asperger's in the sig line would be wise here. Asperger's types tend to analyze things much more than neuro typical people do.

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    9. Re:A few links by Marxist+Hacker+42 · · Score: 1

      Taser says take this and use it on me? The person holding it says take this and use it on me. It doesn't matter if it's a taser, a gun, or a switchblade. If you are holding it and the attacker can read that you aren't going to use it, the attacker has already won and the weapon will be used against you. That being said, I vote taser. It is non-lethal in virtually all circumstances, so people will be more likely to use it when push comes to shove.

      Exactly my point- though there have been a few incidents recently of people high on crack being killed by Tasers (the extra electricity pushes the already strained heart over the edge) most of the time it's an effective deterrant that with a stranger a "sorry" fixes if it was a mistake.

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    10. Re:A few links by Marxist+Hacker+42 · · Score: 1

      Taser screams "take this and use it on me."

      I know the concept of just about any weapon saying that- but here's my argument for the Taser. Unless the guy is high on PCP or Crack, it's non-leathal, thus I have NO ethical qualms whatsoever about "shock first, ask questions later".

      PCP/Crack of course means that their heart is already racing, and the shock will put them over the edge into a heart attack- but then again, they're so pain free at that point you could put a clip of rounds from your Glock or S&W in them and it won't phase them in the slightest- ONLY electrocution or a direct shot into the heart or brain would stop them, and I ain't that good of a shot in an emergency.

      Toss in those little CO2 canisters with the wires, and you can stop a guy with a taser at the same close range that you can accurately aim a Glock or an S&W with- and if the first shock doesn't stop them, you're still connected and can hit them with a second or third shock. Plus, back to the backpacking- we're talking a whole lot lighter than a handgun here.

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    11. Re:A few links by LWATCDR · · Score: 1

      The Sanyo MM-7500 Cellphone has a real GPS built in and high speed data. You can get Navigation applications for it along with Google Local so I put that down as a great device to have.
      The built in camera even has the options to but the GPS data on the photos.
      Some kind of solar charger for it might be useful.
      For security I vote for mace.

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  3. My two suggestions: by harrkev · · Score: 1

    http://www.springfield-armory.com/images/xd-pistol /XD9810Large.jpg
    and
    http://www.garmin.com/products/etrexVenturecx/#
    and
    Cell phone of your choice.

    These should keep you safe and keep you from getting lost. Of course, you will have to manage to keep fresh batteries in the GPS, but if you turn it on occasionally, you should get several days out of one set. Also, a solar panel can help keep the phone topped off.

    Of course, you also have the option of getting a higher-end cell phone with GPS built-in, and then subscribe to service which can provide directions. In that case, you may want to consider dropping the separate GPS.

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    1. Re:My two suggestions: by pvt_medic · · Score: 1

      make sure the springfield is outfitted with Trijicon Night Sights (it will help substantially if you have a nighttime problem) although the one noted above does have rails to get a tactical light mounted below the barrel.

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    2. Re:My two suggestions: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you're suggesting a 9mm why not just throw rocks at your assailent? Crickey. Instead of being a puss get one of these http://www.magnumresearch.com/CustomFinishes.asp. When you're done working your legs all day on your bike, you can use the thing as weight for an upper body workout...

    3. Re:My two suggestions: by Carnildo · · Score: 1

      A cannister of bear spray is more practical. You don't need a permit to carry bear spray, and it's easier to get across the border -- it's the same stuff as regular pepper spray, in a much bigger can, but since it isn't labeled as being for defense against humans, it's not considered a weapon.

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    4. Re:My two suggestions: by loraksus · · Score: 1

      You'll have a problem bringing any type of pepper spray into Canada. A 12Ga flare pistol, however, is no problem. /go figure.

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    5. Re:My two suggestions: by Carnildo · · Score: 1

      The local hikers I've talked to say that as long as it's prominently labeled "bear spray", it's usually fine. If it's labeled "mace" or "pepper spray", you're likely to have trouble.

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  4. safety by pvt_medic · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I am one of those who beleives that personal safety starts with a 4 and ends with a 5. Of course this may not be the same sentiments of many here, and due to permit issues may not be practical for you.

    Other items though that I would say are critical would be: some form of flashing (strobe?) beacon if you are in distress that will make it easy for others to find your locaation, portable radio (ham radio 146.52 if you have a license), cell phone, GPS, and a PDA with appropriate maps. (some of these items can easily be combined (phone, gps and pda) if you have the funds. And the other big one is water purification system.

    PS dont forget something for power

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    1. Re:safety by fm6 · · Score: 1
      All other social, moral, and legal issues aside, a heavy caliber handgun seems an impractical thing to carry along on a bike trip. And as for "security": I have to quote Heinlein, who once pointed out that a gun has a nasty way of making you feel safe when not feeling safe has more survival value.

      I don't see the point in a strobe beacon for a bicyclist. If you're lost in the middle of the woods, sure. (Get a whistle too.) But if you're in trouble on a road, being found is the least of your problems.

    2. Re:safety by identity0 · · Score: 1

      Uh, keep in mind he will be starting and ending in Canada and travelling across the U.S., and therefore subject to a bunch of different state and federal laws regarding guns (I assume that's what you meant by the 45?). I doubt bringing a firearm will help him very much. A 45oz, on the other hand...

      Also, he doesn't really make it clear what kinds of places he'll be travelling - out in the woods, or along urban areas, etc. If he keeps to the roads, I doubt he'll ever need a water purification kit.

      I would also recommend a physical map, as opposed to a PDA that could break. Maybe also a address book in paper, so he doesn't lose important contat info when he drops his PDA or runs out of power.

    3. Re:safety by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Isn't it funny how the people who have gone on a cross country bicycle tour and reported on it (i.e. survived it...) pretty much universally don't mention a fireweapon when recounting their equipment? BTW, he's trying to save lives, not take 'em.

  5. First, the obvious by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 2, Interesting

    A good helmet and knee/elbow guards.

    Also, check out this site:

    http://www.kenkifer.com/bikepages/touring/laptop.h tm
    It's entitled "Bicycle Touring with a Solar Laptop".

    1. Re:First, the obvious by artg · · Score: 1

      Is there such a thing as a 'good helmet' ?

      The evidence suggests that a four-leaf clover or other talisman would be more useful (and take less space).

      http://www.cyclehelmets.org/

  6. Seriously... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Not trying to be cruel, just helpful -- if you're planning on raising money through that web page, get someone to proofread the spelling first.

    1. Re:Seriously... by xsalmon · · Score: 1

      Hahah, I understand. If you look at the timestamp on the original article I wrote, it was *very* late. I have since gone back and corrected it. Thank you for your observation though :) -Jeremy

  7. safety/security by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful
    • GPS
    • Cellphone with spare battery and emergency charger
    • Travel First Aid Kit
    • ASP Baton (but only if you're properly trained and prepared to use it). The surprise psychological impact of seeing one of these sliding out to their full size is usually enough to prevent any need to actually use it.


    Plus make sure you also have these:

    • Paracord
    • SOG or Leatherman multi-tool, plus a *Good* knife
    • Tarp or other sheet.
    • Lots of strong plastic rubbish bags.
    1. Re:safety/security by kidcharles · · Score: 1

      The ASP will come in handy if you come across any lawyers working on behalf of Apple Computer, Inc.

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  8. Some stuff by slashflood · · Score: 0

    Tool: Victorinox Swisstool
    Wristwatch Computer: Suunto x9i
    Media Player: iRiver H10
    Cell phone: Sony Ericsson K800/K790
    Notebook...

  9. Suggestions by quokkapox · · Score: 1

    Take acidwarp.exe, zonerings, deoxy.org ? Oh wait...

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  10. HP4700 / Cingular 2125 combo by stuffduff · · Score: 0
    I have a 13 pound laptop that does the job of a demo server. My the time I add an assortment of cables, power supply etc, it's too heavy to carry and ends up on a little wheeled cart. So I suggest that you ditch the laptop alltogether!

    Last Summer we went east for a few days. Shortly before the trip I got an HP4700. Bluetooth, WiFi, email, web browser, well under a pound and can easily fit in a shirt pocket. 640x480 resolution, I stuck a 1GB SD and a 2 GB CF in it. Panera Bread, and Fudruckers offer free WiFi, to name a few. I also carry a Cingular 2125 with a 1 GB mini-sd. So I have a Bluetooth connect to Cingular's Edge network, a small browser for little things and their voice network. Personally I'd kill for a bike generator that had usb ports to supply power to all these portable devices.

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  11. "Technology," eh? by mnemonic_ · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm guessing you used that word get your submission accepted, this being slashdot and all. I recommend you bring an LED flashlight, swiss army knife or leatherman and cellphone at the least, as well as a good road atlas and some hiking maps. You don't need a Garmin or other GPS unit... I'm assuming you're sticking to most major roads and can usually ask someone for directions. If no one's around, then use your phone.

    I don't recommend bringing much in the way of gadgets because on a trip like that your essential gear will weigh enough. A PDA is absolute excess. Cycling for the journey alone will require a few pounds of tools, several spare tubes and a pump. Add food, water, clothing, sleeping bag+pad, and medical gear and you'll be carrying a lot. Don't underestimate the dangers of nature either; all it takes is some slick pavement to end your trip with a sprained angle. Even on 2-hour hikes at midday, hikers usually bring a sleeping bag+pad, because shit happens and they end up spending the night in the forest. You've got enough on your hands already, cycling and hiking, focus on the essentials because those help you survive.

  12. Make a device by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 1

    I bet some enterprising guy could make you an internet conctrol unit which in response to commands on the webpage could force you to go faster or slower (by electric shock or other means)
    Speak to the xmas lights guy for technical hints ;)

    As an extra thing to take, you could mount several webcams and a robotic arm onto your bike, then when you rest for the evening we can investigate the surroundings.
    It would be like a cheapo geekified NASA experiment.

    All this will give more people reason to visit your webpage, and as we all know more eyes means more donations/clicks.

    Lastly, take a gps tracker so we know you haven't sloped off to Mexico.

    All the best with your journey :)

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    1. Re:Make a device by EZLeeAmused · · Score: 1

      But God help you if the webpage that gives you an electric shock ever shows up on /.

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  13. Re:Are you serious? by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 0, Troll

    "
    24 hours * 7 days * 8 weeks = 1344 hours
    5062.56 miles / 1344 hours = 3.77 miles/hour
    You honestly think you're gonna average almost 4mph for a full 8 weeks?!"


    You honestly think he's gonna ride his bike for an average of 24 hours a day??!?!?!?

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  14. A pocket .22 by dada21 · · Score: 4, Informative

    and your "HIV/AIDS" T-shirt should both help to scare off muggers.

    Seriously, though, the handheld GPS > the PDA with GPS. My PDA with GPS could never handle the elements.

    When I've done long hikes, I actually carried an old car inflatable tube tire and a mini CO2 canister. You can inflate the tube in an instant (about 12 inflations per 6 pack of CO2 cartridges) and float down the river. I'm lazy.

    The CO2 cartridges also come in handy if you want to cool down, just remove the inflation adapter and am at your chest -- instant cool down.

    I always bring along an extra few pairs of socks, too, they can get pretty grotty if you forget extra sets. And lots of protein and fat packed bacon is my friend on long hikes.

    1. Re:A pocket .22 by loraksus · · Score: 2, Informative

      Instead of a .22, something like a Kel-Tec P3AT can be carried. 6+1 rounds of .380 in a 7.2 oz package that is less than an inch thick and is very, very easily concealable.
      Here's a picture of mine beside my cell phone, pda, etc.
      It also happens to be pretty cheap at ~$200.
      It isn't a revolver (which is nice because it can shoot out of a pocket without jamming up - something like a SW 342PD would be a good choice for a small revolver) but it is tiny.

      If you are going to carry, check out packing.org for information on ccw reciprocity.

      Tasers are... well... the cheap ones are crap. Sure they look scary, but some really don't do all that much. Really, hitting someone with one of the cheap ones will just piss them off.

      Taser does sell a civilian version, but it costs $300 more than the .380, is bigger, weighs more and shoots only once. It is legal in most places though - although it is becoming illegal in some as local governments start banning it. NJ has a ban on it as well.

      Also, a surefire or similar flashlight is a good thing to have. Very bright and you can get their G2 model for cheap ($35ish).

      Rubbing alcohol is great for cooling down. Burns if splashed in someone's eyes too ;)

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    2. Re:A pocket .22 by dada21 · · Score: 1

      Awesome P3AT! I didn't realize it was that small or that cheap (0.341 gold ounces). Definitely something to look into.

    3. Re:A pocket .22 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your cell phone sucks, time to get a new one.

    4. Re:A pocket .22 by austad · · Score: 1

      I agree that it would be a good idea to carry a handgun. Make sure you check what the deal is with conceal and carry permits in each state. If you're gonna carry, make sure you go to some self defense classes and gun safety. Most experts agree that having a gun on you makes it more likely that it will be used against you instead of saving you, however, with the proper training it definitely can help you.

      Note that carrying a weapon is not only for warding off human attackers. If you're trekking across wilderness areas, there are plenty of things out there with big pointy teeth that would like to eat you. I always drop a .45 in my backpack when I go up to the Boundary Waters. I've always been able to scare the bears off by yelling and waving my arms and throwing stuff at them, but that may not always work.

      Rattlesnakes do not scare off easily. If you come in close contact with a rattlesnake and it's coiled, the best thing to do if you're close is to shoot it. Make sure you hit it in the head, because they can still strike if you hit it anywhere else. A shotgun works best on snakes, but I've killed those with a .22. If you get bitten by a rattlesnake in the middle of nowhere, there is a possibility of death. But if you don't die, you will likely lose fingers, toes, a foot. Their venom kills the flesh as it spreads throughout your body, and there is no way to bring that flesh back to life. You might look into travelling with some anti-venom. I've never looked into this so I don't know if it's even possible. It may need refrigeration.

      I've heard wolves at night, but never actually seen any come close. Coyotes are terrified of people, so are fox. Unless they are rabid. If you see a fox walking around during the day or any other animal which normally is nocturnal, there is a very high chance that it is rabid and could become agressive.

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    5. Re:A pocket .22 by loraksus · · Score: 1

      Haha, indeed. Old picture, I got rid of that randomly turning off and not turning on piece of shit a while ago.

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    6. Re:A pocket .22 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      0.341 gold ounces

      Aren't you sick of that schtick yet? It has to be your least successful troll, though I give you points for still trying.

    7. Re:A pocket .22 by dada21 · · Score: 1

      Actually all my dollar figures are converted to gold ounces for me automatically. Check out this GreaseMonkey script at my gold investment site. Very cool stuff.

  15. The best tech is low tech. by AEther141 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If you're even *considering* taking even something as puny as a PDA, you're in for a hell of a shock a few miles down the way. On the Appalachian Trail there's a sweet little racket going for the trailside equipment stores - the guys at the trailhead sell you all sorts of lightly used equipment that you absolutely can't be without at a great price. On discovering that the relatively trivial function of these gizmos isn't worth the immense pain your packweight is causing you, it gets sold for far less than it's worth to the guy in the store a couple of days down the trail (who doesn't have to go far to get a good price for it). I'm guessing this is your first long-distance trip, as the question from people who've done it before is always 'how can I carry less stuff?'. Once the blisters start to appear and your shoulders start chafing, you'll be throwing out anything isn't keeping you alive. Go read about Ray Jardine's methods, it'll save you a lot of time, money and pain.

  16. Solar Power! by raist_online · · Score: 1

    For whatever other people suggest, I can heartily recommend the solio http://solio.com/html/index.html for powering them through thick and thin.

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  17. Re:Are you serious? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    90 miles per day for 56 days straight is very ambitious, if you haven't toured before. Taking the stops he's planning and the usual unplanned events into account, I'd shoot for perhaps 50 miles per day on average.

  18. More info... 9 weeks is not enough by mnemonic_ · · Score: 5, Interesting
    A CNN journalist cycled across America and it took him almost 12 weeks. You're hiking/walking part of a longer route, you'll probably need closer to 16 weeks. Another useful bit on gear:
    Be obsessive about leaving stuff home. You will feel every ounce. Expensive synthetic clothing pays off in light weight, quick cleaning and durability. Footwear is bulky; anything more than one good pair of biking shoes and a pair of sandals to stave off the campground-shower nasties is an indulgence.
    Travel light and don't underestimate the rigors of this journey, especially if you're going by foot part of the way. I'm hoping you'll drastically shorten your route, unless you're extremely well prepared.
  19. Re:Are you serious? by xsalmon · · Score: 1

    Please keep in mind that that estimate is purely an approxmiation. If it takes 9-12 weeks, so be it. Anyhow, if you guys know of anyone who wants to contribute/donate/sponsor in any which way, shape or form - please have them visit my link - it's incredibly important to have the public behind something like this. Thanks, and much 3. Jeremy Noonan

  20. AP, not CNN journalist, solly (NT) by mnemonic_ · · Score: 1

    NT = no text
    . NT = no text
    . . NT = no text

  21. How about... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
    one of these?

    Especially if you're planning on also carrying a small Japanese woman. (Which I might also reccommend.)

  22. Things to improve safety... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Since the trip is for AIDS/HIV "research", I'd bring condoms. Lots and lots of condoms. Some lube too.

  23. Long Trip Safety by billysk8r · · Score: 0

    If you're going to induce a long trip, then maybe a HAL Suit can keep you from falling over while you're high.

  24. Safety. by triso · · Score: 1

    The best protection against the HIV virus is those extra-thick condoms. Good luck in your travels.

  25. Re: 9 weeks is not enough - yes it is by MerlynEmrys67 · · Score: 1
    He was also lollygagging around. Frankly - if you are in shape 100 miles a day on a regular bassis isn't unheard of. Of course a lot of this depends on what you are riding/carrying. Records can be seen at RAAM and for the solo male - the time was 8 days 9 hours and 42 minutes.

    I would be more concerned about the desert in the summer. As a friend of mine that has riden in race across america said - you measure milage in miles per gallon (of water) and the results are in the range of 4-5 miles/gallon.

    --
    I have mod points and I am not afraid to use them
  26. Read some journals by TClevenger · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Check out this site and read some of the online journals. A keyword search might help, as I've read about the devices that some people brought with them and how well the devices worked.

    I would recommend a Pocketmail device. You can compose email and upload it to a toll-free service from practically any phone with the built-in acoustical modem. (Just hold the device up to the handset.) Also, bring a good phone card; payphones can be a bitch, and collect calls are risky.

  27. Tech + Long Trip == Loads of Batteries by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Last summer I hiked the Appalachian Trail and dealt with the same question in my planning. Know what I ended up taking? An LED headlamp (3xAAA).

    Everything else I could've wanted would have been a pain to maintain. Camera? Cellphone? MP3 player? PDA? GPS? The problem comes down to one word: batteries.

    Consider this: anything I take will get used enough that the batteries will lose charge. How will I replace or recharge them? Your cellphone -- and possibly your camera and mp3 player -- will require its own wall-wart charger, which means you need to find a place to plug it in and let it charge for a few hours, once or more each week (depending on how often you use it). Are you going to carry all these devices PLUS their wall-warts? That weight adds up fast.

    The best workaround here is to find small, lightweight digital cameras and flash-based mp3 players that run on AA-sized batteries. And the Lithium AA's will get you that much more battery life. So if you go with one of those, you can carry spare batteries and pick up replacements at any convenience store -- no wall-warts necessary. This is a Good Thing(tm).

    In fact, there are flash-based mp3 players (256/512meg or so) that run on a single AA battery AND provide an FM receiver -- very handy for getting storm warnings and such. THIS MAKES IT A VERY LIGHT, USEFUL SAFETY TOOL. It won't hold a lot of music (and you'll probably get bored with it before long), but it doesn't kill you with battery weight and frustrate you with needing a charge every 4 hours.

    PDA? BlackBerry? GPS? Get versions that run on AA's or leave them at home. You don't need them. Every few days you can spend an hour or two in a public library to access the internet for email and such. Some towns you pass through will have internet cafes as well. Carry good maps and a compass (analog) instead of relying on GPS.

    Here's a tip: with your digital camera, take pics of maps that you won't carry with you. Then you can view them on the LCD and zoom in at need. Just remember to look quickly and turn off the LCD when you don't need it to save battery power. Also, avoid using your flash -- take photos using natural light as often as you can to stretch your batteries that much further.

    Next time, I will take a single-AA mp3-player+FM device. I'll probably take a AA-powered digital camera. But if I'm out for longer than a couple of nights, my cell stays at home.

    Enjoy your trip!

    (Oh, and I looked at your site. 8-9 weeks to travel 5000+ miles?? You're insane. Plan on 3-4 months at minimum, and recognize that if you're serious, this journey could take 8-9 MONTHS, not weeks.)

    1. Re:Tech + Long Trip == Loads of Batteries by belg4mit · · Score: 1

      Batteries?? Rechargables with a solar recharger kit or a windup device. Ideally everything would run off of double-AAs, or you
      get a multi-voltage capable PV system. A windup radio or flashlight
      is probably good for all-weather use.

      --
      Were that I say, pancakes?
  28. What every away team needs by amliebsch · · Score: 1

    Let's see, you'll need a tricorder, of course. A personal communicator will be essential as well. A dermal regenerator will come in handy in case of any scrape-ups. Oh, and a hand phaser to deal with any trouble you might run into.

    --
    If you don't know where you are going, you will wind up somewhere else.
    1. Re:What every away team needs by thempstead · · Score: 1

      .... and whatever you do, don't wear a red sweatshirt. :)

      t

  29. Re: 9 weeks is not enough - yes it is by drix · · Score: 1
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    I think there is a world market for maybe five personal web logs.
  30. MOD PARENT UP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Good info there. As an AT veteran, I'll tell you right now: less is better. You'll be carrying enough as it is.

  31. Re: 9 weeks is not enough - yes it is by xsalmon · · Score: 2, Informative

    The original estimate was a very, very rough approximation. I have since updated it to upwards of 16 weeks. In the end, though? It'll take as long as it takes. If it takes 20 weeks, so be it. But I'm taking it all the way, from start to finish. This is an important cause to me, and it is to many others. Please show your support, if you are able to! Sincerely, Jeremy Noonan

  32. Survival Article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This link is mostly for desert survival, though many interesting points
    One tip is to wear calf high pantyhose under socks to prevent your feet from getting fatigued

    http://www.survival.com/deployment.htm

  33. APRS by Nethead · · Score: 1

    Get you ham license,a Kenwood TH-D7 Dualband HT and a GPS puck. Then anyone can find out where you are at http://findu.com./

    --
    -- I have a private email server in my basement.
  34. One or two short duration Road flares by Perdo · · Score: 1

    Cheap.

    Light.

    Scares away animals. Personally used by me to scare a bear in Alaska pre-bear spray, which by the way is completely ineffective on moose, who seem to be capsaicin resistant, again from personal experience. No, road flares do not cure prostate cancer. No goatse jokes please.

    Can be used for signaling.

    Can be used to start a fire even with wet wood.

    Likely will scare away even a persistent attacker.

    Police WILL stop when they see one.

    Absolutely will not go out when lit, even underwater.

    Will destroy evidence if you need to steal some twinkies at a gas station.

    --

    If voting were effective, it would be illegal by now.

  35. Planning safety by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Try putting some planning into your trip. Plan the best route that not only meets all the goals a bicycle trip should. i.e. distance, energy, etc, but also safety (various law enforcement can provide the data). After all the best way to prevent a problem is to not get into it in the first place (would any of you intentionally go into the worst part of town?)

    1. Re:Planning safety by WebCrapper · · Score: 1

      I hate to agree with an AC, but this is very true. In some areas where you feel something might happen, you can always call the local PD before showing up to alert them you're going to be in the area. May seem like you don't need to or shouldn't but I've seen police escorts for things like this.

  36. What to bring by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Get an Ipaq and/or palmtreo 700w but if you want a good size 12 inch screen laptop get inspiron 700m also get one of those water back pack things so then you have a lot more water to drink rather than a bottle here and there and refill up less.

  37. From a Tour Cyclist by cgenman · · Score: 1

    A: Bring an Ace Bandage. Ok, so it doesn't really count as technology, but you can fix everything from broken bike racks to ripping bags to actual (gasp!) cuts and bruises with an Ace bandage. More useful than Duct Tape, and easier to work with.

    B: A cheap candybar cellphone. It should be relatively new, so that it has good battery life, but it should be cheap because these days cheap=durable in a phone. Be sure to switch to a nationwide plan before leaving.

    C: Spare LED blinkers. Never run out of night-riding LED blinkers. However, forgo headlights on the bike. They just destroy your night vision while adding a ton of weight. Use more LED blinkers if necessary. Bring a spare set of AA's, and expect to replenish on the road.

    D: Platapus bag. Don't leave home without a silly, expensive hydration system that happens to work really well. Bring purifying tablets if you can't find a reasonable water source, but don't be that guy who assumes anything less than bottled water is toxic. I recommend two additional water bottles for backup.

    E: An old PDA, like a Sony Clie N360. Even though the batteries are wearing out, they should still get about 20 days to a charge. Plus they're dirt cheap.

    F: Anything that charges will be the bane of your existence. I tend to lean against a lot of GPS systems for that reason. However, if you do carry a few charging things, try having a rest at every starbucks you see. The food is overpriced, but they've got outlets that anyone can use. College Campus food courts also tend to have outlets. Otherwise, expect to spend a lot on motels.

    G: A bar of soap, a second set of clothes, the heaviest-duty sunblock you can find, a toothbrush / paste, a sleeping bag... and that's about it. Don't bring anything you can live without, and expect to get really dirty. I recommend a tent as a luxury. I always feel the need to find an enclosed space when I travel without a tent. Oh, and lots of Vitamins, Powdered Gatoraid, Tiger's Milk bars, and Ramen (bulky but light!), for those times when you just can't find food. Eat raw... no cooking. No pots / pans.

    H: For your bike, take two saddle-bags and NOTHING MORE. No stove, no fire, no pads, nothing. If it can't be strapped to the back of the bike, it ain't coming. Use puncture-resistant tires with Puncture-resistant tubes and puncture-resistant tire liners. Stuff will get through that too, but at least it will be less stuff. Go with 25mm tires. Your bike will be laden with junk anyway, so the handling difference will be minimal for a lot more comfort. Bring about one to two spare tubes for every day between bike shops. You shouldn't need that many, but every now and then you get into a bad patch that eats through four tubes. These should be the normal, lighter kind, and buy more as you go. "Tire Slime" is useless and should be avoided at all costs. Beyond that, bring two patch kits, a slimline pump, a chain wrench, a spoke wrench for your size spokes, pliers, a set of torque wrenches, a good phillips head, a pocket knife, a spare brake cable, a spare shift cable, tin shears, a solid cable lock that can weave between your frame, both wheels, and the seat. Also, a split saddle. A comfortable saddle on a long trip is worth more than all of the rest of your gear combined. Take aerobars of some sort so that you can change to a few different random seating positions as you go.

    I: Quick on / off should be a priority for your bags and packing, because you will be doing this A LOT.

    J: A hidden Money Belt. I recommend a few hundred in emergency money, plus all of the contact / account info you can write down and stuff in there.

    K: Pen, paper, your thoughts.

    1. Re:From a Tour Cyclist by mejesster · · Score: 1

      I did some camping/touring by bike in Maine, Massachussetts, Washington/Vancouver and the Netherlands (separate trips) and while those are nowhere near the several thousand miles you intend to go through, the stuff listed in parent is the most accurate. Serious weaponry should not be a consideration, assuming you don't run into any bears. Bring more than 2 sets of clothes, especially socks and underwear. Consider buying bike shorts despite their lack of style and crotch breathing room. Dr. Bronner's soap is great for washing yourself and your clothes. But back to the topic of technology, a cell phone and a GPS unit would probably be the most important items, and your key consideration should be battery life. A nice windproof lighter and a pocket knife (leatherman or swiss army) can come in handy for all kinds of uses and should not be considered optional. I suppose you could look into higher tech clothing like good rain gear or wicking/thermal properties of clothing.

      --
      MacroHard - Boning you in a big way! (TM)
  38. Amateur Radio (HF / VHF / UHF) comms gear by ivi · · Score: 1


      In a tiny box of electronics, with removable front panel for the dash
      (eg, ICOM IC-706 Mk.IIG, Kenwood TS-2000 or Yaesu FT-897D or similar) is: ...for the unlicenced:

      - monitor various VHF/UHF stations (emerg. services, etc.)

      - Shortwave receiver

      - AM [ & FM ] broadcast receiver ...if you become a licensed Amateur (a.k.a. Ham) Radio operator:

      - VHF/UHF comms with repeaters all over the country/world - US, Canada & beyond
          (each provides a way to meet-the-Locals, as you pass through / by each place)

      - Internet-link repeaters (if you'r within range of one, you can "dial-up" others
          - eg, in places you're headed for (even in different states & countries -or-
          maintain comms with folks back home, ie, if they have licenses & gear that can
          access a nearby IRLP-repeater)

      - "hunt" for satellites passing overhead (cf HeavensAbove.com's Amateur satellite
          page for times & freq's to watch, no matter where you are) - a great time[sink
          for the kids ;-)

          If you find one, use it as a repeater (for voice) or digipeater (for eMail)

      - with the right antenna & tuner, "hunt" on HF for other Hams around the world
          (like an open-ended Skype search, & chat in voice-mode)

      - even if you can't always talk with all the stations you'll hear, enjoy listening!
          (eg, new/unfamiliar accents, languages, local ideas, "on-air" tips for radio &
          lots of other issues)

      - [Kenwood TS-2000 only] connect a notebook (or smaller) computer to use Packet-
          Radio & possibly APRS (to get weathe or to locate other nearby stations - both
          home or mobile); contact satellites passing overhead or use them to store-and-
          forward your eMail, when there's no Internet cafe nearby

      - lots more... too many to list... Google is your friend here. ;-)

      Oh, it's gotten VERY EASY to get a first (Foundation Class) Amateur/Ham License

      In USA: http://arrl.org/

      In SE: http://www.ssa.se/

      In AU: http://www.wia.org.au/

      Enjoy the warmth of friendly, local voices... ready to offer travel tips...
      generally without wanting to fleece you as you pass through their town/city

  39. Are you serious?-Speeding. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I should point out that on a mountain bike I could do about 15 mph. Someone on a 10-speed could do about 5-7 mph greater.

  40. How about this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There's this new software called Ceedo which lets you install a whole bunch of apps on a disk-on-key or pocket hard drive. I can think of a lot of uses for this sort of thing on the road...

    Check it out: http://www.ceedo.com/

  41. Traditionalist's approach by OhHellWithIt · · Score: 1

    A flint, steel, and a knife.

    --
    "Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past." -- George Orwell
  42. technology to make you safer!? by mzs · · Score: 2, Informative
    Ditch the tech, bring two more people. Seriously I looked at your route map, it is very wrong. You should shoot for going west through Colorado or Wyoming for the least resistance. Do you honestly plan to cross desert and two mountain ranges alone and ON YOUR FIRST trip of this sort?

    Every gram matters when hiking, you will be able to spread the load better with three hikers. Plus should anything go wrong you will not be alone, not to mention how useful the company will be. The best measure of your hiking pace is to be able to walk and hold a conversation simultaneously, you'll look schitzo talking to yourself.

    Also I hate to be blunt about it but your site is pretty poor if you plan to use it for fund raising. Look at this example for ideas (about the site and about the trip itself).

  43. Basics by Phreakiture · · Score: 1

    In the interest of not getting too complex, I suggest the following:

    • Cell phone with looooooong-life battery
    • Radio with AM, FM, and weather
    • Means to charge the batteries in the above two items

    Other things you might consider:

    • GPS receiver
    • If (and only if) you have a ham radio licence, a small 2m/440 HT and roll-up antenna.

    If you do bring a GPS receiver, don't let it become a crutch. You should know how to read a map and how to dead-reckon, or you shouldn't be out wandering.

    --
    www.wavefront-av.com
  44. acid trip? by juan2074 · · Score: 1

    Lots of kids play the latest video games while on long acid trips.
    Same thing goes for 'shrooms.

  45. Low-tech by jevring · · Score: 2, Informative

    What's wrong with some bike tools, a map and a compass?
    You WILL be travelling ON the roads I hope?
    Regarding safety, my best recommendation would be to bring a friend. Not only are you less likely to get mugged if there are two of you, but any medical situations that might arise are probably more easily taken care of if there are two of you.
    It's not like you're going to be able to stave off a band of highway bandits with a 9mm anyway...

    You do NOT need a laptop on a cross-country bike ride. The goal of which is to ride a bike, not to check your email. I'm sure you'll pass atleast oen internet café on the way somewhere.

    The most high-tech thing I'd bring on such a journey is a cellphone and/or some kind of emergency radio.

    I'm going to assume that you know something about cycling already, since you're attempting this, but if you don't, you need to know to keep everything LIGHT.
    You do not want to pack any more weight on your bike, or yourself, than is absolutely necessary.

    So stick to the low-tech stuff, and don't be affraid to stop and ask for assistance.

    Ohh, and socks, don't forget extra socks.

    --
    Move sig!
  46. depends on where you are going to be by NateTech · · Score: 1

    If you're walking in Camden, New Jersey, bring a firearm and know how to use it. :-)

    Screw the PDA's and high-tech gadgets.

    How the HELL did this make it into a Slashdot story?

    News for idiots, people who don't know how to travel? Stuff that doesn't matter, especially if you don't care where this guy goes "walkabout" to.

    --
    +++OK ATH
  47. From a casual, but well-informed hiker: by cavemanf16 · · Score: 1
    Smartwool socks - I would pay $50 a pair for these socks, they are THAT good. Go for the Trekking style instead of the lighter-weight ones. I promise you you're feet won't get hot and sweaty enough to ever be uncomfortable with them on. (I hiked with a pair of Trekking socks on, with full leather hiking boots in the middle of 95+ degree, HUMID weather in Columbus, OH for about 2 miles downtown and back up to the OSU campus area once and didn't so much as get hot spots on my toes. These things are incredible!

    Inova Microlight LED flashlight or a similar device is a great accessory. Keep it small and lightweight. I highly recommend red LED's as they illuminate the best in pitch black conditions.