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Spirit Rover Reaches Safety

dylanduck writes "Good news for rover fans - Spirit is safe for the winter. It had been heading for a north-tilting spot to make sure its solar panels got enough sunlight during the imminent winter to survive, when a sand trap appeared. But, despite its busted wheel, it scooted round and is now sitting pretty. From the article: 'We've got a safe rover,' says principal investigator Steve Squyres. 'That's huge news for us.'"

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  1. Tough decisions by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The science team has had to make some tough decisions about which observations to make and which to cut short as the rover hustled across the plains towards a northerly tilting slope. Squyres says Spirit had to leave the circular target dubbed Home Plate earlier than the science team would have liked. But he now says the outcrop at Low Ridge Haven "might be made of the same stuff".

    Yes, its made of rock.

    Now wheres the damn aliens we were promised.

    I know, I know - its really a good thing.
    If it lasts the winter and moves on, dragging a broken wheel around may end up being a blessing in disguise, you never know what it might uncover.

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    1. Re:Tough decisions by tktk · · Score: 4, Funny
      We're right here, you ugly bag of mostly-water.

      Slows what yu know.

      I'm nostly ful of alochol.

  2. Amazing by networkBoy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I really can not believe that the rovers are still running at all.
    NASA did a bang up job on these. Build more and recover the economies of scale!
    -nB

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    1. Re:Amazing by PeelBoy · · Score: 5, Funny

      They sure as hell lasted a lot longer than any radio controlled toy I ever owned

    2. Re:Amazing by sdo1 · · Score: 4, Interesting
      I really can not believe that the rovers are still running at all. NASA did a bang up job on these.

      One might also argue that since they so grossly exceeded their life expectancy then they were overdesigned and cost too much.

      But I agree. Great job.

      Build more and recover the economies of scale!

      Yes! Yes! Yes! I can't understand why they insist on going back to the drawing board every time. I've read about the next generation rovers. They're very different in many ways including the way they'll land on Mars.

      I just don't understand why, with the success that Spirt and Opportunity have had, they don't build these as a platform. Surely if the research was put into new instruments that could be attached to the current design, rather than redesigning from scratch, that would be a better use of the money.

      I'm sure (or hope) NASA has thought this through, right?

      -S

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    3. Re:Amazing by LWATCDR · · Score: 4, Interesting

      "Build more and recover the economies of scale!

      Yes! Yes! Yes! I can't understand why they insist on going back to the drawing board every time. I've read about the next generation rovers. They're very different in many ways including the way they'll land on Mars. "

      Because there aren't any economies of scale to be had.
      The big cost of the rovers isn't the rover but the launch vehicle and the time on the DSN to keep them running. Mainly the launch vehicle. The Rover themselves are pretty cheap in comparison.
      Also after each mission NASA learns more about what works and doesn't and finds new questions to ask and that requires new tools.
      Finally because stuff gets better over time. You know that Moore's law thing?

      In reality trying to get "economies of scale" from the space program is EXACTLY the wrong way to do things. That is what lead to trying to use the Shuttle for everything.
      The space program should be more about trying new ideas than mass production.

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    4. Re: Amazing by shigelojoe · · Score: 5, Funny

      My guess is that NASA mixed up metric days and imperial days when they were making their lifetime estimates.

    5. Re:Amazing by njchick · · Score: 3, Funny

      I guess the dust accumulation rate in your apartment is higher than on Mars.

  3. thank goodness by dotpavan · · Score: 4, Funny
    ..Spirit is safe for the winter..

    I was really getting worried about my winter supply! :P

  4. Just in time! by GillBates0 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now I go get my (well-deserved) Monday evening 6 pack of beer without a twinge of guilt. Way to go Rover.

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  5. I hope it works better than... by sdo1 · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... the windows "hibernate" feature.

    "Ok... wake up"

    "I'm sorry Dave. Everything you were working on is know kaput and I've forgotten about everything that you were doing. By the way, where did that network connection go?"

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  6. Never play the odds! by MudButt · · Score: 4, Funny

    AHH! Damn rover cost me 20G's! My bookie's gunna break my legs...

    Las Vegas Releases Odds For Mars Probe Trifecta-of-Failure

    1. Re:Never play the odds! by ptomblin · · Score: 4, Funny

      He's already broken one of Spirit's.

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  7. Just like the Voyager Probes! by dakirw · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Another good example of NASA's success in the unmanned exploration program, which contrasts nicely with the current issues with the Space Shuttle program and its potential successors. Wonder if any of the administrators in charge of the space probe programs can help implement changes in the manned space program.

  8. Martian Golfers? by ToxikFetus · · Score: 4, Funny

    So NASA drove Spirit into a sand trap? The last time I drove a golf cart into a sand trap, I got my ass banned from the local links.

  9. This just in by Timesprout · · Score: 4, Funny

    The busted wheel has been confirmed as a design flaw, and the manufacturers sub contracted by NASA, Martian Rovers R' Us have issued an immediate recall of all rovers. DHL are expected to pick Spirit up tomorrow for refurbishment.

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  10. Re:Well now, by east+coast · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Once again we see the advantages of an unmanned space program over our manned one.

    I'm sorry but I don't see it. Care to elaborate on this point?

    While I do think the rovers are a great success I can't help but think that if we would make the proper moves to getting people to the moon we could make space exploration cheaper. Also consider that it's taken the rovers over a year to do what a manned exploration could have completed in a week.

    Aside from the durability of the crafts there is little to be amazed by here.

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  11. Re:Well now, by masklinn · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They have way more success on their unmanned programs

    Not really, space is not your local highway and a dozen dead astronauts over twice as many years is not that high of a price. They're aware of the risks involved (as any pilot is), the NASA is aware of them too, only the public ever cries bloody murder, but that's because the public is idiotic.

    Many more lives will be lost during the conquest of space, it's part of the game, and the number of lives taken by the whole space conquest is still lower than the daily death toll of car accidents across the US.

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  12. Re:Well now, by ScottLindner · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "and the number of lives taken by the whole space conquest is still lower than the daily death toll of car accidents across the US."

    No doubt.

    Another point about manned and unmanned. The unmanned is great for simple things like this. It can go on and on doing very simple tasks and won't get tired of doing it. The manned flights are for sophisticated situations, but there's another less obvious point. PUshing to get people out there, will develop new technologies in life support that can be used for many other industries both in space, and here at home. Even if we develop great technologies to live in a colony on the moon, or on Mars, we can use those same technologies to extend our stay here on this planet. Since we're doing a good job of burning this one up that cannot support the numbers of people we have.

    I know you are not protesting the manned space flight. I just wanted to comment that there are many great reasons for manned space flight that are less obvious than the per mission benefits of the manned flight itself. It would be very unwise to try to send a man to another galaxy on the first shot, if we never figured out how to do it locally first.

    Cheers,
    Scott

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  13. Tag this one awesome! by jouvart · · Score: 3, Insightful

    We've already had plenty of "lame" tags on the stupid articles. It's time we started tagging stuff "awesome". If anything, the rovers most definitely deserve it for their progress.

  14. Re:I've seen this one before by MikTheUser · · Score: 3, Funny

    There was a young man from the East
    Who unwillingly served as a feast,
    For his ship, it did fall
    To the planet of Trall
    Near a ravenous bug-blatter beast.

    (Oh yes, I wrote this all on my own!)

  15. Wouldn't it be nice.... by p51d007 · · Score: 4, Funny

    if ALL of NASA worked as well as the Mars rovers?

  16. See what the rovers & drivers see by HoneyBeeSpace · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It is a shame that Maestro appears to have stopped updating their data.

    Still, it is excellent software, and fun to use even if you don't get where Spirit is today. With Maestro you can see what the rovers see, and what the rover operators and instruments see... Actual software used in mission control.