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Micro-Pump is Cool Idea for Future Computer Chips

core plexus writes to tell us that Engineers at Purdue University have designed a tiny 'micro-pump' cooling device that can be used to circulate coolant through the channels etched on an individual chip. From the article: "The prototype chip contains numerous water-filled micro-channels, grooves about 100 microns wide, or about the width of a human hair. The channels are covered with a series of hundreds of electrodes, electronic devices that receive varying voltage pulses in such a way that a traveling electric field is created in each channel. The traveling field creates ions, or electrically charged atoms and molecules, which are dragged along by the moving field."

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  1. Not exactly one for the modders by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The smallest particle in the coolant would block it.

    1. Re:Not exactly one for the modders by Chr0nik · · Score: 3, Insightful

      True, in fact it's a kind of catch-22. Dirty water is more conductive than clean water. Using an EHD drive to pump the water is ingenious, but if the water's too clean it won't efficiently pump through the channels, if it's even slightly dirty, there will be mineral build up which will block the channels and fry your chip. Perhaps some other electrolytic fluid will work better, but I can't think of any with better thermal conductivity that won't boil at room temperatures. Good idea though. Using a refrigerant and the temperature gradient in the case would probably be a better idea. The problem with that however, is you'd be forced to have your case at a specific orientation in relation to the cooling device. There would have to be different versions for stand up cases, and rack mount or desktop cases.

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  2. Cooling channels allow chip fabrication in 3D! by jlseagull · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Chips fabbed in 3D have numerous advantages - short trace lengths, higher density, etc. However, the problem with all of them is getting the heat out with today's convective cooling technologies. This technology will allow multiple cores in 3D to operate without overheating, and that's a good thing as the number of cores in personal computers and servers continues to increase.

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    1. Re:Cooling channels allow chip fabrication in 3D! by ShakaUVM · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The trouble is that routing on chips isn't done by hand anymore. An algorithm crunches away on a design and spits out what it found to be the most optimal layout for the given parameters. So if you have to start pushing things around by hand in order to make room for cooling channels, it could break your design.

      I'd say the solution to it would be to lay out the cooling channels just like other routes in the die, and set the parameters up somehow in the routes would be relatively well distributed for maximum heat absorption.

  3. Whole new meaning to processor blocking by syousef · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...and what's the term for a blocked CPU? Constipated???

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    1. Re:Whole new meaning to processor blocking by ScrewMaster · · Score: 3, Funny

      No ... constiputed.

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  4. I slightly misunderstood the teaser by Xiph · · Score: 4, Informative
    So for those of you who did the same.
    This system works in multiple ways, it has an ionisation pulse that travels along the water lines
    The pulse ionizes the water the ionized water is dragged by the pulse
    the pulse alters the shape of a small membrane, boosting the pump.
    as for the efficiency
    We have shown that the power input required is in the microwatts, but you can get milliwatts of cooling
    that being said, it's still work in progress, and they (according to the article) haven't solved leakage problems yet.
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  5. From plants by piotru · · Score: 4, Informative

    Simplifying, the plants are thought to use similar idea to transport viscous liquid within their vascular system - phloem. Beautiful!
    Link: http://www.cas.muohio.edu/~meicenrd/ANATOMY/Ch9_Tr ansport/phloem.html>

  6. Re:Channels of coolant, or just heat conductor? by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 3, Informative

    Wouldn't it be easier to do the cooling on the chip and use something that conducts heat very good on the chip?

    A conductor would have to be thick, which would take up a lot of space.

    Moving s liquid with high heat capacity (such as water, which has ENORMOUS heat capacity) means you can move the heat out by transporting the liquid, rather than by conducting the heat THROUGH it. The liquid can then drop off the heat at the heat sink in a leisurely fashion on its way through. Heat only has to move by conduction across distances measured in molecular diameters rather than inches.

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  7. I have a better idea. . . by kimvette · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Why not implement oh, I don't know, say, a Peltier Junction directly into the heat spreader? Since you KNOW there is going to be a heat sink (no warranty if no heatsink is used) then any overheating concerns from running the junction without a heat sink are moot.

    KISS (Keep It Simple, Stupid) -- they're over-complicating the solution. Fluid directly in the chip might be a good idea, but let conduction and natural convection handle the heat transfer to the heat spreader. Don't over-complicate this thing with a pump that can break the second a nanometer particle gets into the system.

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  8. Cooling is not the only problem by thpr · · Score: 5, Informative
    Yes, 3D is a neat application, but cooling is not the only challenge in 3D semiconductor electronics. Another perspective on 3D is available in Business Week's More life for Moore's Law article.

    For example, one of the assumptions that exists on a semiconductor wafer before it is printed is that it is effectively flat (a typical peak to valley range on a modern wafer within the expected field of a chip is on the order of 175 to 200 nm)

    Polishing to that accuracy once structures have been placed on a semiconductor wafer is difficult. Getting a consistent layer of material when you are polishing an uneven surface (uneven due to vias [connections] to the other layers of silicon present) is downright challenging. Another problem with printing transistors on anything but a pure wafer is the issue of reflection. Thin layers of materials on a semiconductor are semi-transparent and not perfectly vertical. Those angled and curved structures produce reflections. Those reflections can cause problems in printing later layers (because of constructive and destructive interference of the light used to expose the photoresist). Those reflections mean that modeling the exposore process of a 3D semiconductor is a VERY challenging task.

    Such items are not of concern today, because the later structures placed on the wafer are generally metal lines or capacitors for DRAMs or lenses for image sensors, etc. These are all large and some level of imprecision is acceptable. While variation can cause differnet RC characteristics in metal lines, the timing models in the library or other models can account for this variation. In fact, Matrix Semiconductor has been producing 3D DRAM since about 2004, which shows that heat isn't necessarily the problem, and DRAMs (and memory in general) are a reasonable application for 3D technologies (likely because the capacitors are generally large in relative terms).

    Transistors, however, are much more sensitive to variation, and the variation in later polishing used today is too rough for the effective printing of transistors. While I don't doubt that there are situations where the density will be valuable, I think 3D processors and custom chips (in consumer electronics, et al.) are as much an economic issue as a cooling/technical one. (in other words, with my understanding of current roadmaps, you will decrease semiconductor yield to such a degree that 3D may not be economically viable, even if the cooling problem is solved.)

    1. Re:Cooling is not the only problem by jlseagull · · Score: 3, Funny

      (mouth moving out of sync with the words, as in a chop-socky flick)

      "Your CMOS-fu is greater than mine! Please say more, so that I might sit and listen!"

      Can you point to some more links on 3D fabrication? Thanks!

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  9. Electric fields strong enough to push particles... by imgod2u · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm no expert in ASIC design but that doesn't sound like the best thing to have in your extremely sensitive high-speed signals. I assume this field will remain constant and won't provide noise for the chip (or at least I hope) but it will introduce an electrical bias that needs to be planned and compensated for during the chip's layout.

  10. So very appropriate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Not only is this literally "cool," but many geeks are used to operating a micro-pump..........

    [crickets...]

  11. Micro is so 1960's by beoswulf · · Score: 2, Funny

    I expect and demand every cool discovery to be prefixed with "nano"

    1. Re:Micro is so 1960's by Bloke+down+the+pub · · Score: 2, Funny
      I expect and demand every cool discovery to be prefixed with "nano"
      LOL, are you still wearing flares or something, d00d? Get with the program, it's all about nantwo-dot-o now.
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  12. Clarification and more information on 3D by thpr · · Score: 2, Informative
    So I did realize after I posted the grandparent comment that there are actually two different technologies at work here. I just recognize '3D' as 3D fabrication: using a single wafer and printing multiple layers of transistors. That is what I was referring to in the grandparent post. However, there is also 3D packaging technology, which has specific names in the industry and therefore I missed an alternate reading of both your original post and the article. The technology from the original article may be more easily integrated into a 3D package (more below).

    Specifically related to the issues I mentioned: If you are interested in some of the challenges around flatness, you can learn more about dummy fill that must be added to metal layers, by looking at the layman's version or a technical description.

    With regard to reflection, you can check out a rather old background article or how anti-reflection layers must be used in modern semiconductor manufacturing to reduce problems.

    More specific articles on 3D fabrication can probably be found in recent journals (most likely not available online), or if you're not concerned about reading patents, by reading patents from the USPTO (for reasons of US law which you're probably familiar with, I'm not going to search that and provide you any links). There may also be more by searching for Matrix Semiconductor (which I didn't realize at the time of my first posting has been acquired by SanDisk).

    Having said that, there is also 3D packaging, which takes various forms. Semiconductor Cubing (as it's apparently called) can stack lots of semiconductor devices, but note that these are originally fabricated as single layer chips and then they are bonded together to form a larger block.

    More recently (and in real production), 3D packaging is being performed through a System in Package (SiP) methodology (you may also see this referred to as a 'chip stack' technology). This is distinct from a multi-chip module (MCM), where the chips are aligned horizontally on the packaging substrate. Today, a SiP is generally a memory module bonded upside down onto a non-memory device (though it can also be used to bond an RF device onto a non-RF device). This form of packaging is receiving attention from SEMATECH as well. Further information from SEMI is also available if you Google for "SEMI Forum: Mapping progress in 3D IC integration".

    Beyond that, it's again hard, due to the password protected nature of conference materials and journals... but hopefully that's a good set of links to explore.

  13. Pointless for desktop PCs by Rob+Simpson · · Score: 2, Interesting
    "Innovative cooling systems will be needed for future computer chips that will generate more heat than current technology"

    Except for supercomputers, servers, and hard-core gamers with air conditioning, who is going to want chips that will generate substantially more heat than current chips? If CPUs alone start using hundreds of watts of power, people are going to take notice, and even the most naive shopper will start taking this into account. Already, Intel has realized that their ridiculous space heaters are a dead end.

  14. Not much new, apparently by Aimak · · Score: 2, Informative

    Although not many details are given, it seems to me this people just adapted an existing analytical technology called Capillary Electrophoresis. The piezo pump is a clever addition to the system to improve the micro-liter per second flows typically obtained in CE technology.

    I wonder where and how they want to hang the liquid reservoir with the cooling solution. The processor may have to come then with an attached infusion bag like those you get at hospitals.

  15. Can it withstand cold temperatures? by DaFrogBoy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "The prototype chip contains numerous water-filled micro-channels, grooves about 100 microns wide, or about the width of a human hair."

    Being that I live in the north, I am a bit skeptical about water being inside of the chip. They didn't mention anything about how it can handle cold temperatures.

    If you were to transport an item with one of these cooling mechanisms in the winter time (perhaps to a repair location) is there the potential that the water in the channels could freeze? Would it be capable of withstanding that amount of expansion when the water becomes ice?