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Live Commercials Will Save TV?

Vitaly Friedman writes "Entrepreneur Mark Cuban doesn't believe that traditional television advertising is dead, it simply needs to be more interesting. And what's more interesting than being live? From the article: 'It's no secret that the traditional 30-second spot has been losing much of its luster with advertisers. With the rise of other media options (videogames, home theater systems, Web surfing) on the one hand and the recent growth of DVRs like TiVo on the other, traditional television advertising has been feeling the squeeze. Broadcasting executives are struggling to figure out the economics of the new digital landscape, and have been willing to try just about any creative idea, such as TiVo's plan to replace old commercials with new ones when watching recorded shows.'"

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  1. Interesting by HunterZ · · Score: 4, Insightful

    One of the most annoying things to me about TV ads is seeing the same ones repeated 3 or 4 (or more) times during a one hour show. Even if the ad itself isn't particularly annoying, it becomes so after I've seen it enough times over a short enough period of time.

    What I'm driving at is that I think live TV commercials *would* be interesting, at least at first. No doubt they would become just as normal and familiar as everything else shown on TV in the past 50+ years, but at least we wouldn't have to see the same thing over and over and over again.

    On the other hand, considering how much money is currently spent on pre-recorded commercials, I somehow doubt that we'd see more than a few live ones, only during prime-time, and only on major networks.

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  2. just make decent commercials by buddyglass · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Most commercials make me want to jab something sharp into my eyesockets. Some, however, are actually funny. Or, if not outright funny, at least visually interesting. Make more of those and I might be persuaded not to switch channels.

  3. Pay for shows with DVD sales by sycomonkey · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Just get rid of advertising, Pay for the show with DVD sales. Why isn't it allready like this?

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  4. Re:oh yes... by lbrandy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    My idea for an ad is a 4 second clip of someone paying with a Visa card, slowed down 8x. That way people fast-forwarding on their TiVo get to see it in real time.

  5. Live isn't interesting by Bogtha · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Really, it isn't. You just get screwed up lines, and pay a hell of a lot extra for it.

    What's interesting is relevance. The average bachelor isn't going to run out and buy tampons because an actress told him how fun it was to go rollerskating on your period, but he might go out and buy exercise equipment because Chuck Norris told him it would improve his roundhouse kicks.

    The problem is getting the information necessary to tailor ads to individual preferences without it being a hassle for the viewer or infringe on privacy. Rather than try and obtain their preferences through positive reinforcement, I suggest there should be a huge red button on every remote that says I never want to see this advert again!

    This way, viewers can get rid of the really annoying adverts and the ones that don't interest them at all, and advertisers can build up an idea of what they do like by seeing what they don't block.

    Obviously, there has to be some safeguard against simply blocking every advert, but that shouldn't be too difficult. For example, only let viweers block x number of adverts, and when they block more than that, start unblocking the least recently blocked ones.

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    1. Re:Live isn't interesting by misleb · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Obviously, there has to be some safeguard against simply blocking every advert, but that shouldn't be too difficult. For example, only let viweers block x number of adverts, and when they block more than that, start unblocking the least recently blocked ones.

      How could that possibly compete with systems that allows you to block ALL ads? Hmm, I could buy this service that only lets me block the most annoying ads and eventually the ads start popping back up anyway... or I could get a system that not only blocks all ads, but does it automatically (MythTV). Hmmm. Decisions....

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  6. Not buying it ... yet. by khasim · · Score: 2, Insightful
    I don't see why they do that, some brainer probably sat there and said "if they see our ad 23 times this hour they gotta buy our anal leakage cream for sure!".
    Seeing it 23 times won't make you go out and buy it ... if you don't need it.

    But when you need it ... you'll remember the brand. Which usually results in more purchases of that brand over other brands.

    So repetition is what the advertisers want.

    The trick is to make the repetition less boring so people don't fast forward through the commercial and you lose that repetition.

    But the writers have enough trouble making a 20 minute show interesting enough just once a week for a season. Asking them to make the commercials interesting ... in 30 seconds ... and to make multiple commercials ... too much!
  7. Its in the shorts by mcrbids · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The Tivo/DVR changes the whole dynamic of television. It used to be mandatory to watch the commercials, or at least wait them out. Now, the DVR makes it trivial to skip them over.

    Ever watch American Idol? Notice the TVs behind Ryan Seacrest displaying Coca Cola logos and bubbles? The ads are becoming part of the show.

    But, along these same lines, ads are starting to get better. Every day, I get video files forwarded to me by E-mail that are frequently... ADS. And they're funny as hell.

    Here's an example: It's funny as hell, and I sure don't mind forwarding this to my friends. So, this leather company not only gets people to look at their ad, they don't even pay the costs of distribution!

    The world is changing. Guess what? It's been doing that since it was created...

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  8. Re:Product Placement by anubi · · Score: 2, Insightful
    I bet you got a strong boost in your feelings about FedEx after watching Castaway.

    I did.

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  9. Make the commercials NOT SUCK!!! by SvnLyrBrto · · Score: 4, Insightful

    For the last few years, my roommates and I, we've had a Superbowl party. None of us really care for football though. What do we do? Use it as an excuse to get together and socialize with friends. And after it's been on long enough, we Tivo through the game, and watch the commercials.

    Yes, marketing types, we watch the Superbowl commercials ON PURPOSE!!!

    I can't remember who won, or even who played in, the Superbowl for the past several years. But I remember the E-Trade monkey, Terry Tate the office linebacker, the pets.com sock puppet, Autobytel, and those Budwiser frogs. Hell, I know the dialogue to the 1984 Macintosh commercial by heart!

    What's the difference? During the Superbowl is about the only time the advertisers put out commercials that DON'T FUCKING SUCK!!! Get that you pinheaded marketing drones?!?!? Make your commercials NOT SUCK... make them entertaining... and I WON'T Tivo past them! No tricks, no stunts, no blipverts, no need to try and rig broadcasts so I CAN'T fast-forward; and don't accuse me of being a thief for getting up to go to the bathroom; just stop making your commercials suck ass!

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    john

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  10. Re:The worst offenders by BakaHoushi · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'd say that's about right for here in America, too. Though, personally, I'd swap the country music albums, as much as I hate them, for car commercials. Usually they look like they're designed by someone who spent too much of their time in college studying post modern art that they forgot they're selling a car, not a 3-D modelling program.

    This is why I refuse to buy almost anything I haven't researched and/or sampled beforehand. I'll be damned if I'm going to be persuaded by some lying ads. (I've known some awesome products to have horrendous ads, and some horrendous products that have had [though rarely] good ads. Better to look into reviews first)

    And I'd like to make a special mention for drug ads. Let me say this: If you have to ask your doctor if you need a drug, you don't need it. If you're so sick that you need medication, your doctor should (in an indeal world) be the one to tell you. I'd like to see pharmaceutical ads off advertisements altogether, before they make this already paranoid generation into hypochondriacs.