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Microsoft Seeking to Patent Automatic Censorship

theodp writes "Microsoft is back at the USPTO, this time seeking a patent for the automatic censorship of audio data for broadcast, a system and method for automatically altering audio to prevent undesired words and phrases from being understandable to a listener as originally uttered."

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  1. If only by Travelsonic · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now if only Slashdot woild only patent all variants of the "First Post" s the ACs would fear lawsuits for posting them.

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  2. That's a ________ idea! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I ____ _____ that Microsoft would _____ ____ customers and _________ something like ______ ________!!!

  3. Good! Maybe nobody will use it since its patented by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    This sounds like a good thing to me. Maybe we can help protect our freedoms by patenting the technologies that try to limit them.

  4. In other news... by DrEldarion · · Score: 2, Funny

    Radios have stopped playing the runaway hit by the Naval Boys, "Ship Funk", as half of the song was now inexplicably silence.

  5. Well, sounds like a good idea by moochfish · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sounds like it will be used primarily for Xbox Live to make sure 9 year olds don't get cussed out by some pissed off gamers. Sounds like it'll be a feature most consumers will welcome.

    This sounds a lot more novel than most of the other patents they get that tend to get highlighted on Slashdot. Is it totally novel? Well, I can't speak for any of the experts out there, but at least it's not blaringly obvious, commoditized technology.

    1. Re:Well, sounds like a good idea by Ian+Action · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Man, on X-Box live those 9 year olds are most likely the ones doing the cussing.

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    2. Re:Well, sounds like a good idea by humungusfungus · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You're probably right about this being welcomed by the masses. Excuse me while I hijack this thread to appeal to anyone who might even consider this a worthy application of such technology:

      Simple argument:

      Fuck, Shit, Piss, Cunt, Motherfucker

      I learned those words years before the Xbox came out.
      Dammit, I learned them years before people started carrying around suitcase-sized cell phones!

      Ask around. You can probably find a few people who learned to swear before the evil internet with it's foul mouthed masses even existed.

      Swearing is, was, and always will be part of language. The trick is to teach your kids**** when it is appropriate/useful/damaging/self-degrading etc.

      Even if you don't they will learn to use it, for better or for worse. ...and don't believe for a second that this Xbox scenario will be the extent of it's application.

      Repeat after me: Censorship is bad.

      **** WARNING: Involves actual parenting!

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  6. Too late by HTTP+Error+403+403.9 · · Score: 4, Funny

    FoxNews already has prior art on that.

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  7. So I guess... by 7macaw · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...no more talking about Linux on the radio, eh?

  8. Too late by criordan · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I think someone already invented this a while back. They're called "highway overpasses."

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  9. Congratulate them.. by Goalie_Ca · · Score: 4, Funny

    For geeks writting OSS this is absolutely harmless... in fact i can see this being a good thing. If they're the only company allowed to use super cookies and have auto-censorship then the world is a better place :D

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  10. Sounds very sick by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What kind of fucked-up parent lets their 9 year old play XBox Live in the first place?

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    1. Re:Sounds very sick by Maestro4k · · Score: 4, Insightful
      What kind of fucked-up parent lets their 9 year old play XBox Live in the first place?

      Let me change that just a bit, make that "play XBox Live unsupervised" and the answer is the same kind of parent who will buy their kid the latest Grand Theft Auto game even though it's rated Mature and the employee at the store points out them it's rated mature and explains what that means then let them play it unsupervised. Then they later discover what they'd already been told is true about the game and they raise hell about their kid being able to play it and blames the store, the game company, some vast conspiracy, aliens, etc. anyone but themselves.

      And yes, I speak from experience, worked for a while at a Wal-mart between IT jobs back around the time GTA Vice City came out. Had plenty of parents that I explained to very politely what a Mature rating meant and what was in the game and had them shrug and say "Well he wants it" and them buy it anyway. The reason I modified that is because I ran into a few (very few sadly) parents who knew what the ratings meant and would take the time to read all the info on the game boxes, all the sub-warnings, etc. and decide whether or not they would buy the game. I saw one Dad look through 4 different games and tell his kid "you can't have this one or this one, but either of these will be fine, we'll play it together". Now if only more parents did that.

    2. Re:Sounds very sick by i+kan+reed · · Score: 2, Insightful

      you are aparently one of those people who doesn't know there's such a thing as games rated less than M. If they want to release a game that's rated E, like some kind of racing game, it'd be a nice feature to flip a switch and not have to worry about hearing "you're a gay nigger jew" from every 20th person. I'd further submit that the alogirthms to do this are not intuitive. If you think censorship is bad, make you you make it clear to microsoft that this technology should be able to be turned off.

    3. Re:Sounds very sick by Spacejock · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I bought Fable for the PC, and my daughters saw it and immediately wanted to play it. However, it carries an M rating and when I checked my character stats I saw why: One of the entries says 'number of times had sex'
      The thing is, the game has cutesy graphics and starts out with this innocuous-looking kid like something out of an N64 game. At first glance it DOES look like a childs game, so who are they marketing it to?

    4. Re:Sounds very sick by Aranth+Brainfire · · Score: 4, Insightful

      People who aren't ass-backwards and try keeping any mention of sex five miles from children.

      Seriously, the sex in that game is-

      Spouse: What, aren't you going to come to bed?
      You: (yes | no)
      (insert black screen with ridiculous giggling and spouse saying "ooh")
      (return to game with spouse making some sort of lame joke)

      Twelve-year-olds might get all giggly about it, but it's nothing new. Hell, if you're not loitering around your house for no reason all the time it's not even very likely to happen...

      Nevermind theories about that other stat, your character's sexuality...

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    5. Re:Sounds very sick by elrous0 · · Score: 2, Funny
      It takes actual wit to offend.

      Fuck that. That sounds too much like work.

      -Eric

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  11. New Words by ZachPruckowski · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The rest of the world will do what Battlestar Galactice does: Made up swear words. BSG can't drop the F-bomb much for administrative/ratings reasons, so they use the word "Frak". I could see a lot of new swear words popping up if this happens.

    1. Re:New Words by jbr439 · · Score: 2, Funny

      What the frell are you talking about?

    2. Re:New Words by xixax · · Score: 5, Funny

      Someone ought to Gates those Clippys up the Allchin and kick them in the Balmers for coming up with an idea that's so WinFS.

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    3. Re:New Words by OldManAndTheC++ · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well actually, "frack" was used on the original BSG, along with other made-up words (like the "centon" unit of time). So its use on the new BSG is more of a nod to the earlier show than a way of avoiding censorship.

      But yeah, you're right that this will lead to new swear words to bypass the filters. After a while the old swear words will be passe and no one will use them, and Microsoft will start filtering the new words, and the cycle of swearing and filtering will continue ad infinitum.

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  12. Just a special case of speech recognition by ZOP · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I doubt that the USPTO will bat this down, but there's prior art on all sorts of speech recognition. This one just happens to deal with censorship and adding metadata to the audio stream based on that.

    As you all can see though this patent was filed back in 2004, so it's been around for a while. The idea isn't anything new, nor is the application. What would be interesting is the broadcast industry's response to this thing.

  13. Awesome! by pestilence669 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I forsee a future where you cannot criticize Microsoft in podcasts created and streamed using Windows. "Microsoft Sucks", could be considered offensive.

  14. an idea by filthy_mcnasty · · Score: 2, Insightful

    hey now, if they'll just allow us to define what is worth censoring i'm all for this technology but the choice should be made in the home, not in washington.

    the first thing i'd put on an explicitive list: commercials

  15. I _ _ _'_ believe it! by backslashdot · · Score: 4, Funny

    A few years ago _ _ I was having my dinner, I thought of this very same idea. Instead of c _ _ _inuing to eat, I should have put down my _ _ _ _ and got a sh _ _ _ of paper to write the idea down. Oh well, I _ _ _'_ do anything abou_ _ _ now. I got another great idea but this time my _ _ _ _ _ out of ink. ...

  16. Censorship by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Let us take a fine example from the wonderful lore of Douglas Adams and simply replace every one of our cuss words with the galaxy's worst word: Belgium.

    Belgium to those Belgiuming Belgiumers who censor our every Belgiuming word!

  17. Cingular, Sprint, Verizon... by cyfer2000 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Cingular, Sprint, Verizon are in trouble if MS get the patent, and if MS think the wireless phonce call is "broadcast".

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  18. f--- that! by raider_red · · Score: 3, Funny

    Why should I need that? I should be able to say whatever f---ing s--- I want too. Any A--hole who says otherwise can suck my d---.

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  19. Musing on the subj by mapkinase · · Score: 3, Insightful

    As some of the posters rightfully noted, this won't solve the problem. One of the symptoms of not solving would be "invented" cursive words. The problem lies deeper.

    Think for a minute, why do we curse? We curse to express our emotions. Instead of using words that describe the emotion exactly, like: "I am very angry right now", we spit expletives. We do that to alleviate the anger (for example) caused by this situation. Emotiones expressed in this way help quickly release the pain caused by the anger. But.

    But they do not remove the cause of the anger. Bad driver manners will continue, and there is little you could do about that whether with anger or without it.

    So what would be a healthier reaction? Right. Anger management. You will train yourself not to react angrily, by channelling anger into correct actions, not emotions.

    This is what we have to teach our kids spending on that much more effort than protecting them from hearing infamous seven words.

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  20. won't someone think of the children by soupforare · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it."

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  21. Most. Trollish. Slashdot. Article. Ever. by Mr.Bananas · · Score: 5, Funny

    Wow, I didn't think it would be possible to bring together so many things that Slashdot readers love to hate into one single post, but this article has almost done it:

    - Microsoft
    - Software Patents
    - Censorship

    Now, if only Microsoft could extend or apply this patent to automatically censor the topics "evolution" and "open source" ...

  22. Excellent! by siddesu · · Score: 2, Funny

    If that means that noone else will be able to implement automated censoring without paying a license fee -- I am all for it ;)

  23. Re:"undesired words and phrases " by MiKM · · Score: 2, Informative

    The Bill of Rights does NOT protect against censorship by non-government entities. If you are using some Microsoft service, Microsoft has every right to censor whatever you say.

  24. Tinfoil hats off please, this is for Speech & by TheNetAvenger · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Tinfoil hats off please, this is for Speech and Media Encorder Services...

    So an employee or customer using realtime voice services could use an automated service and the company using MS Speech Server technologies could tell the system to not let them broadcast 4 letter words through the service for example.

    Imagine a phone system service that allowed a customer to send messages to friends or family, and lets say the company was Apple using the product, they could use the MS technology to ensure the customer didn't tell everyone the service targeted to go get F**ked...

    Another example would be a live broadcast that is encoding to Windows Media going out over the FCC air or the Internet, this could keep a bad caller on 'radio' show (for example) from violating FCC rules in realtime.

    It could also be used for parents to censor TV or Audio off the Internet or Via a TV Box so they could limit certain words from their kids.

    Get it?

    As for 'censorship', come on lets pretend the easter bunny is trying to take over the world with toxic chocolate eggs or something more exciting.

  25. Louie Louie by craXORjack · · Score: 2, Funny

    Now if only someone would invent a way to do exactly the opposite so we could find out what the lyrics really are to Louie Louie!

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  26. this is good by penguin-collective · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm all for bad patents on bad ideas, because it will make it harder for other people to actually use the bad idea.

    Of course, maybe the EFF should take notice and preemptively patent some of the f*cked up, obvious things people are going to misapply technology to over the next years.

  27. This is Universal by giafly · · Score: 2, Funny

    Everyone has two "methods for automatically altering audio to prevent undesired words and phrases from being understandable to a listener as originally uttered."

    They're called "Getting Old" and "Getting Married".

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