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Self-Heating Coffee Cans Recalled

Old Man Kensey writes "Apparently those nifty Wolfgang Puck self-heating latte cans, introduced with such fanfare last year, have proven to be buggy -- cans have been reported failing to heat adequately or, more disturbingly, exploding and melting through the packaging. A recall has been announced -- here's hoping the flaws can be 'patched' soon."

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  1. No mention on Wolfgang Puck's site! by Whiney+Mac+Fanboy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I've just had a look at the official How It Works (wmv, bleh) video on Wolfgang Puck's site - and there's no mention in the (surprisingly good) explanation that the cans may explode (funny that).

    Also, check out this guy's dissection of a used can.

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    1. Re:No mention on Wolfgang Puck's site! by Whiney+Mac+Fanboy · · Score: 5, Informative

      Also, check out this guy's dissection of a used can.

      Sorry to reply to myself, but Make Blog has a much better dissection

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    2. Re:No mention on Wolfgang Puck's site! by Tim+C · · Score: 2, Informative

      Mostly yes, although it depends on how it was implemented. Transparent editing (where you can't tell, or can't tell what was changed) would obviously be open to abuse.

      If it was implemented so that rather than chaning the comment, you could add to it, that would be a different matter (imho) - that would let you do things like:

      "Updated at $time: Found a much better explanation - see $someURL"

      or

      "Updated at $time: Oops, missed out a 'not' in that sentence!"

      or even

      "Updated at $time: Forget everything I wrote above, I'm a complete tool. Here's what I *should* have said..."

      That way while you could still probably play games with the mods by changing the meaning of a post after it's been modded up

      a) the original is still viewable (and combined with some sort of history view, you could tell exactly what was modded up)
      b) who cares about karma anyway? It's meaningless for everything other than the automatic comment score modifier and petty bragging rights, as far as I can tell.

  2. Honestly by Monkeys!!! · · Score: 5, Funny

    I've heard of starting the day with a bang but this is rediculous.

  3. Wow, these are still around? by ProppaT · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I remember having a sample of one of these in Target around hurricane season. They were trying to pass them off as a good way to get a hot cup of coffee when and if the power went out. I probabbly would have bought a few, but then they proceeded to give me a sample. This is, by far, the most disgusting "coffee" drink I've ever had, and this come from someone who's been known to suck on plugs of grounds like chewing tobacco when there's no hot water around...

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    1. Re:Wow, these are still around? by Craig+Maloney · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yes, but even the worst Starbucks pollution doesn't include Calcium Oxide in any concentration. And the Double Shots are all aluminum, so if you have community recycling, you can put it there. I don't think there's a way to reclaim the materials in the self-heating coffee.

    2. Re:Wow, these are still around? by Whiney+Mac+Fanboy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yes, but even the worst Starbucks pollution doesn't include Calcium Oxide in any concentration. And the Double Shots are all aluminum, so if you have community recycling, you can put it there. I don't think there's a way to reclaim the materials in the self-heating coffee.

      Calcium oxide is just lime - its not particularly bad for the environment. I thought you were objecting to the large quantities of plastic in the can.

      A more enviornmentally (and wallet) friendly idea is to just buy a thermos and fill it with coffee from home.

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    3. Re:Wow, these are still around? by Zontar_Thing_From_Ve · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This is, by far, the most disgusting "coffee" drink I've ever had, and this come from someone who's been known to suck on plugs of grounds like chewing tobacco when there's no hot water around...

      There's a reason for this. It's called aspartame . I bought a 4 pack of the Wolfgang Puck coffee when it came out last year. I had no problems with any of the cans, they all worked fine. However, it wasn't until I got home with my purchase that I looked at the ingredients list and saw aspartame as an ingredient. I don't know why so many beverage manufacturers refuse to accept the fact that the vast majority of consumers despise the taste of this artificial "sweetener".

      There probably are a few sick individuals who actually like the taste, but I've talked to people who drank diet drinks regularly and almost all of them told me that they didn't like the taste of aspartame, but put up with it to get a reduced calorie beverage. I don't think the beverage industry has ever really understood that
      tolerate != like
      Besides, lattes are not meant to be diet drinks anyway. It seems to me to be contradictory to make a latte and then make it a diet drink.

    4. Re:Wow, these are still around? by Daath · · Score: 2, Informative

      Could be because of the sceptics of sucralose.
      Nah, who am I kidding, just look at the wikipedia article for aspartame...

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    5. Re:Wow, these are still around? by Generic+Guy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Every time a new artificial sweetener enters the market there are outcries about public safety. Sucralose ("Splenda") is still much better than others. Yeah, ok so they use Chlorine in making it -- so what? Your basic table salt has chlorine. I use chlorine in my pool. That in and of itself doesn't make me run screaming in terror.

      I'd certainly much rather have Splenda than Aspartame in my products. I think the biggest problem facing Splenda is the (warranted) public distrust of the chemicals industry and any new products associated with "chemicals" face that wall. Sort of like anything attached to the word "nuclear".

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    6. Re:Wow, these are still around? by Daath · · Score: 2, Informative

      You'd much rather have splenda than aspartame. To me, that's like saying you'd rather have skin cancer than lung cancer ;-)
      I avoid artificial sweeteners, all of them. I am not fanatic about it, I can drink an artificially sweetened soft drink if there are no others and I feel like one.
      Check out some of the links returned by googling for sucralose. One of them (possibly more), like this one contain user testimonials (if asked for email just enter webmaster@mercola.com). Interesting stuff. Dr. Mercola has a page on it (link on the same page).

      That stuff just isn't good for you.

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  4. Man, that's gotta hurt by 6Yankee · · Score: 3, Funny

    Your hands would be Pucked!

  5. Japan by CRCulver · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Haven't self-heating cans been used in Japan for years now? Why not just use the same design as there?

    1. Re:Japan by Whiney+Mac+Fanboy · · Score: 4, Informative

      Haven't self-heating cans been used in Japan for years now?

      Yup, and a quick look at this wikipedia article shows that they've been around everywhere for over 100 years

      Why not just use the same design as there?

      The design is pretty old & pretty standard - the problem is almost certainly poor quality control (Brandsource trying to be cheap). Presumably they spent too much money buying the rights to Wolfgang's name to spend money on the production process.

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    2. Re:Japan by silasthehobbit · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yes, and they also have canned drinks machines that are heated, so the can comes out hot - and thus the contents are as well.

      Which was very handy on a cold day in Nikko station. Hot coffee and a hand warmer in one!

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  6. Coffee is too individual to be canned by fhmiv · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I don't like my coffee very sweet, so Wolfgang and Starbuck's pre-packaged coffee beverages, cold or hot, don't appeal to me.
    I did try a few of Puck's self-heating latte beverages when they first came to satisfy my curiosity. One of the pack of four failed to heat, but luckily for me, none of them exploded or meltied their packaging.
    It's spiffy to be able to heat your own coffee in such a small package, but when you seal up pre-mixed coffee in a can or a more complicated contraption like this one, you lose one of coffee's primary advantages as a beverage --- it is an excellent platform for customization.

    I'd rather go without than drink a coffee beverage brewed or mixed to appeal to some marketeer's average consumer taste buds. If I wanted a sweet, pre-mixed beverage, I'd drink a soda.

  7. Expectations by cffrost · · Score: 5, Funny


    From TFA:

    OnTech's launch campaign for the self-heating product is "It Does What?"

    "It takes time to educate the world to what [self-heating] is about," Weisz said.


    It takes time, no doubt in part because the answer is, "it explodes."

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    1. Re:Expectations by Monkeys!!! · · Score: 2, Funny

      "....it takes time, no doubt in part because the answer is, "it explodes."

      Actually that will be one of the quickest educational experiences you will ever have.

  8. Lawsuit Material by Matilda+the+Hun · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now, instead of all the "Contents may be hot" labels, everyone's going to have to start putting "Warning! Contents may detonate" on their coffee cups to avoid lawsuits.

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  9. Self heating can? Bah! by Whiney+Mac+Fanboy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Who wants a self heating can when you can get a self cooling beer!

    (although I'll wait for the non-miller version, as I prefer my beer with flavour thank-you-very-much).

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  10. IT??? by eander315 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    First of all, how is a self-heating coffee can related to IT? I'm not sure I see where the Information part of IT is at in this instance.

    ..."A recall has been announced -- here's hoping the flaws can be 'patched' soon."

    Why? The first time I saw one of these, I thought it was pretty cool. Then I saw how much of the can is comprised of chemicals used to heat the coffee. It looks like half the volume of the can is contained in the chemical pouch, which seems a little excessive. This is not good technology. Until they can find a way to be a little less wasteful to do the same job, I hope they don't patch the problem.

    1. Re:IT??? by indifferent+children · · Score: 3, Funny
      First of all, how is a self-heating coffee can related to IT?

      It's a new platform for Java. Though it does sound like they were too aggressive with the overclocking.

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  11. nasty by celardore · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I tried one of those coffees a few weeks back. It wasn't nice at all, I can't imagine when I would need a hot coffee so bad that I would drink one again.

  12. Too much waste, anyway by CortoMaltese · · Score: 4, Insightful
    This was probably discussed at length a year back, but I'm glad this product failed: I just think it produces too much waste per unit sold. I really don't care how handy or revolutional or whatever the product is, if it's difficult to recycle. Even if the coffee tasted good in it. It's not worth it.

    Of course, that's just the opinion of a person who lives in a country where over 95 % of all beverage cans and bottles are recycled. I think realizing how well the system really works positively affects your attitudes towards recycling.

  13. Patching the flaws by Ithika · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm no great Java programmer or anything, but shouldn't the virtual machine prevent serious damage to the rest of the system (hand)?

    It could be argued in this case that the software is not at fault, but the hardware. So no amount of adding in extra parentheses will fix the problem. Tis not just a matter of removing the line that says:

    if ((date.month).contains('r')) {
    igniteCan(SAFE_IGNITION * 50);
    } else {
    igniteCan(SAFE_IGNITION);
    }
    1. Re:Patching the flaws by indifferent+children · · Score: 4, Funny

      The biggest complaints (including mine) seem to be about garbage collection.

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  14. It works by digitaldc · · Score: 5, Funny

    I've heard of starting the day with a bang but this is rediculous.

    Exploding coffee: Guaranteed to wake your ass UP!

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    1. Re:It works by Odin's+Raven · · Score: 4, Funny
      Exploding coffee: Guaranteed to wake your ass UP!

      Personally, I find coffee is more effective when applied to the other end of the gastrointestinal tract, but to each their own. ;-)

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    2. Re:It works by Spokehedz · · Score: 4, Funny

      caffeine can be absorbed through the lower GI tract, as well as Alcohol and other nutrients. It's where the old joke...

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      A patient who was being fed rectally had a birthday when he was in the hospital, and the nurse decided to give him a treat on his birthday. She hooked up some icecream to his feeding tube and left the patient. A couple of minutes later, she heard screaming and groaning coming down the hall. Knowing what it undoubtedly must be, she rushed in and started to apologize profusely.

      "I'm so sorry! Is it too cold?"

      "NO! I HATE RUM RAISIN!"

      ****

      Comes from. Of course, Ice cream cannot be tasted through the rectum--it is merely a joke. But the surface area of the rectum is much greater than that of the stomach, which allows the absorption of said chemicals/liquids to be absorbed MUCH quicker. Much like the vaporized alcohol that's beginning to show up in some yuppie-fied bars as-of-late that you simply inhale and get blitzed for about an hour.

      But the idea of rectal feeding has been pretty much removed with the advent of modern intravenous methods. I've heard that unless your going to be doing some physical work, you can actually get all your required nutrients through an IV. I'm thinking 'heads in jars' are in store for some of us.

    3. Re:It works by ozmanjusri · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Much like the vaporized alcohol that's beginning to show up in some yuppie-fied bars as-of-late that you simply inhale and get blitzed for about an hour.

      It's not a recent thing, though the yuppies may only recently be catching on. Back in the late '80s in the mining towns of Wetstern Australia, we had a drink called a Vapour Lock.

      It was a shot glass of Sambucca which was lit, allowed to burn for about 10 seconds, then extinguished with the palm of your hand or buttocks of your girlfriend. Once the flame was out, you'd insert a straw carefully into the glass and suck up the contents in one large slurp.

      Inevitably you'd also inhale the alcohol fumes generated by the burning Sambucca and get a head rush that'd last for the next ten minutes. Every so often someone would pass out seconds after their Vapour Lock to be promptly painted, shaved or teabagged. Good times...

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  15. We had those in the UK! by jjeffrey · · Score: 2, Interesting

    We had self-heating coffee cans in the UK under the Nescafe brand (Nestle). They were sold at petrol (gas) stations mainly.

    Problem was not many people bought them. The coffee was nothing special, and because the cans were mostly filled with heater mechaism there wasn't even that much of it. They were expensive too.

    I haven't seen any for a couple of years now. Instead a lot of petrol stations just have a coffee machine, or cans of coffee that are kept in a heater.

  16. In other news by technoextreme · · Score: 3, Funny

    Wolfgang Puck's coffe cups were renamed Emril's Coffe cups.

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  17. Boom! by 6Yankee · · Score: 4, Funny

    From TFA: it overheated and then blew up, sending her to the hospital.

    It blew her that far? Now that's an explosion!

  18. Hot Coffee by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 4, Funny

    Wow, the Hot Coffee mod just gets EVERYONE in trouble, doesn't it?

  19. MRE's by rlp · · Score: 2, Informative

    I was looking at some packs of civilian MRE's (for camping). You can apparently get them either with or without heating packs. The heating packs appear to take a small quantity of water and produce some sort of chemical exothermic reaction (wouldn't be surprised if they also use Calcium Oxide). Anyway the US military's been using them for many, many years.

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  20. Benefits far outweigh the risks by dpbsmith · · Score: 4, Funny

    Stop all the snivelling, cavilling, whining, Nervous Nellyism. No Progress can be made without taking risks. Did a few minor scalds and burns stop Chuck Yeager?

    Would you like to go back to the dark ages, before antibiotics, the flush toilet, and self-heating coffee cans? When women were barred from advancement, trapped in a lifetime of relentless toil over hot coffeepots? When people routinely perished from exposure walking miles through blizzards attempting to reach the nearest Starbucks? When greedy vending barons forced workers to dig into their pockets for their last few coins, then laughed sadistically as their machines tauntingly dispensed chicken bouillion instead of coffee?

    I say, who wouldn't gladly risk a few small explosions in order to be able to enjoy a hot can of gourmet rich expresso lattee--say, what's in this stuff, anyway? Ingredients: Water, Coffee (Ingredients (Water, Coffee (Ingredients (Water, Coffee (Ingredients (Water, Coffee (Ingredients (Water, Coffee (Ingredients (Water, Coffee (Ingredients (Water, Coffee (Ingredients (Water, Coffee (Ingredients (Water, Coffee segmentation fault: core dumped

  21. Re:They suck by Provocateur · · Score: 2, Funny

    or having a worrying chemical aftertaste

    Dude, you're supposed to drink it from the top.
     

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  22. In Soviet Russia... by atheist666 · · Score: 2, Funny

    self-heating coffee can heats YOU!

  23. 1940s self-heating coffee... by dpbsmith · · Score: 2, Informative

    I just added some material to the Wikipedia article on self-heating cans.

    In 1941 a ''New York Times'' food column reported:

    Yesterday, we had our first cup of coffee, our first baked beans and our first spaghetti out of the amazing self-heating cans now being introduced by a department store in Manhattan... There's a fifteen-minute wait while the canned food, enclosed in an outer tin, heats without benefit of gas, electricity, or flame of any sort. This trick is accomplished by a chemical inside the first container, and the action is started when four holes are punched in the bottom. The whole mysterious apparatus is turned upside down for the stipulated number of minutes, then righted, and presto! there is your steaming coffee, or food, all ready to serve.

    Holt, Jane (1941) "News of Food: War Emphasizes Benefit of Prune Vitamins--Hammering Opens Oysters," ''The New York Times,'' March 26, 1941, p. 19

    In 1947, the same column reported "Food in Self-Heating Cans Reappears" (their having been reserved for the military during the war). Referring to the cans as "Hotcans," the columnist noted that "Chocolate is made with milk and is delicious (65 to 72 cents). Four hamburgers in tomato sauce with mushrooms are small but good, and the sauce is ample (89 to 98 cents). Coffee tastes something like the instantly brewed type, leaving something to be desired (49 cents)." (49 cents in 1947 is approximately equivalent to $4.64 in 2005).

    Nickerson, Jane (1947), "News of Food: Food in Self-Heating Cans Reappears Here; Recommended for Motorists and Campers," ''The New York Times,'' November 26, 1947, p. 28

    I have to wonder why the technology never took off. Of course, the Wikipedia article links to a 2001 article touting the "world's first" self-heating coffee, and it does say that the calcium oxide reaction is "nowhere near as straightforward as chemistry text books suggest and that the thermal design was critical to the efficient operation of the device."