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Giant Rock Growing in Mount St. Helens' Crater

An anonymous reader writes to mention a CNN article about the huge geological formation growing in Mount St. Helens' crater. From the article: "The fin-shaped mass is about 300 feet tall and growing 4 feet to 5 feet a day, said Dan Dzurisin, a geologist at the U.S. Geological Survey. The rock in the crater began growing last November, steadily moving west and pushing rock and other debris out of its way as it goes." Scientists think the mountain will eventually replace the lave dome blown out by the original 1980 eruption.

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  1. Maybe it's not a rock by dotslashdot · · Score: 5, Funny

    Maybe it's just happy to see you.

  2. uh oh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    this one time in geometry class i developed a 'huge formation', and then the teacher called me to work out a problem on the board!

    the girls all laughed at me. hopefully mt. st. helens won't have that problem.

  3. Just when you thought it was safe... by Jhon · · Score: 4, Funny
    The fin-shaped mass is about 300 feet tall and growing 4 feet to 5 feet a day
    It's a Land Shark!
  4. Rebuilding by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I wonder how long it would take for the old dome to be rebuilt? Didn't find it anywhere in that article.

    1. Re:Rebuilding by anagama · · Score: 4, Informative

      The eruption caused a massive debris avalanche, reducing its summit from 9,677 feet (2,950 m) to 8,364 feet (2,550 m) in elevation. Cite. The mountain lost 1313 ft in its 1980 eruption. The article mentions the rock is rising 4-5 ft per day, and is 300 ft tall. It has 1003 ft to go, or about 250 days, assuming it continues at the same rate -- an unlikely assumption however because to replace the cone, it would need to not only rise to its former height, it would have to fill in the mile wide crater as well.

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    2. Re:Rebuilding by anagama · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Looking at the wikipedia article I linked above, it looks like 40-50 years at current rate to replace the dome (look at "2004-present activity" section). One nice thing is that there is a high res picture on wikipedia of the formation as opposed to CNN's thumbnail shots about 2/3 the size of their ads. A picture 3000 pixels wide is way more enjoyable than one 75 or 80 pixels wide -- you'd think CNN could foot the bill for an extra kb or so and post real pictures.

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    3. Re:Rebuilding by pizzaman100 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I was in 4th grade when it blew. We lived about a 100 miles east (Sunnyside, WA). It looked like an atomic mushroom when it erupted. We got an inch of ash. In the middle of the day it was pitch black - pretty freaky. They closed school for a few days. The ash was mostly iron, so you could put a cow magnet in the dust and get all kinds of cool formations. Pretty fun for a kid.

  5. Re:good god, man by geekoid · · Score: 2, Funny

    with any luck, it will go after it's creater!

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  6. Will the volcano have another major eruption? by SeaFox · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "Given the way things are going now, there's no hint of any sort of catastrophic eruptions," USGS geologist Tom Pierson said. "At any time, however, things can change."

    I hate quotes like that in news stories. They amount to "there's nothing happening right now, and I dont know if anything is going to happen, as the situation could change as soon as I finish telling you everything is fine". An eight-year-old could have offered us as much insight.

    1. Re:Will the volcano have another major eruption? by ZSpade · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The fin-shaped mass is about 300 feet tall and growing 4 feet to 5 feet a day

      Just what exactly is your definition of "nothing heppening right now"? Geologically, 5 feet a day is pretty rapid change.

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    2. Re:Will the volcano have another major eruption? by gardyloo · · Score: 2, Funny

      "If you hike up there this afternoon and get your head blown off, don't come crying to me."

          Sweet. If you can get your head blown off and go crying to anyone, I wanna know about it!

    3. Re:Will the volcano have another major eruption? by NMerriam · · Score: 4, Informative

      An eight-year-old could have offered us as much insight.

      Well, the difference is the eight year-old would be guessing.

      The USGS stating that it's stable now but is capable of changing at any moment without warning is useful information, because it makes explicit that if something terrible is to happen they won't be able to see indicators 24-48 hours in advance and thus warn people away. If you want to get away, there is no precursor activity that will tell you when, so you just basically have to go and wait, potentially for a long time.

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  7. I was living in Seattle when St. Helens blew by spun · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It was on a Sunday if I recall (I was all of 9 years old)and I slept right through it. Some people claimed they could hear it, and you could see a funny shaped cloud on the horizon if you squinted real hard. I kept waiting for the predicted ash fall, but it never got as far as Seattle.

    I visited the mountain some years later, and I can't begin to describe how small I felt looking at the devestation. Miles and miles of forests flattened, all the trees lined up in the same direction, following the contours of the hills. Everything coated in a layer of fine ash. Scary, in a "look how freakin' insignificant you are" kinda way.

    If you ever go, be sure to bring a lantern and visit Ape Caves, a 5 mile long lava tube near the base of the mountain. It's an easy hike even if you've never been in a cave before, and unlike most caves the sole improvement is a rickety metal staircase leading down in the middle. You can hike 2.5 miles up and exit out where it collapsed, and/or hike 2.5 miles down and it gets really narrow and stops. (By "up" and "down" I just mean the thing runs down the side of the mountain, so one end is higher than the other, not that it goes straight up and down.)

    As for this latest development, 5 feet per day?! Wow, that's pretty dang fast. I'd heard a new lava dome was growing, but this speed is certainly a new develpment. Still, it will take a long time to get back to its former size. Over 1,000 vertical feet of mountain got blown off the top, and most of one side slid away.

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    1. Re:I was living in Seattle when St. Helens blew by value_added · · Score: 2, Funny

      It was on a Sunday if I recall (I was all of 9 years old)and I slept right through it...

      It was Tuesday. In time it came to be known as Mount St. Helens Tuesday.

      That was one day before Wednesday.

      Which came to be known as ...

      wait for it ...

      Ash Wednesday.

  8. 3d info - fly throughs by drDugan · · Score: 3, Interesting

    it seems that 3d virtual environments are getting pretty good. lots of people playing WOW and 2nd life, simms...

    When I see an article like this - I want a 3D environment. I want to download the "map -o- the crater" and be able to fly around and see what it's really like there.

    it wouldn't need to be that detailed, or be a replacement for pictures. it's just that I can't seem to get a sense for the size or the scope of what we're talking about.

    3D standards litter the last 10 years like dead bodies in war zones - but it still is nice to dream.

  9. Re:Is that a rock in your pocket.... by peacefinder · · Score: 4, Interesting
    "Or maybe it's that sexy mountain next door."

    Maybe so.
    "Northwest Indians told early explorers about the fiery Mount St. Helens. In fact, an Indian name for the mountain, Louwala-Clough, means "smoking mountain". According to one legend, the mountain was once a beautiful maiden, "Loowit". When two sons of the Great Spirit "Sahale" fell in love with her, she could not choose between them. The two braves, Wyeast and Klickitat fought over her, burying villages and forests in the process. Sahale was furious. He smote the three lovers and erected a mighty mountain peak where each fell. Because Loowit was beautiful, her mountain (Mount St. Helens) was a beautiful, symmetrical cone of dazzling white. Wyeast (Mount Hood) lifts his head in pride, but Klickitat (Mount Adams) wept to see the beautiful maiden wrapped in snow, so he bends his head as he gazes on St. Helens.

    -- Excerpt from: U.S. Department of Agriculture, Gifford Pinchot National Forest "Mount St. Helens" Brochure, 1980
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  10. volcano cam by drDugan · · Score: 4, Interesting

    TFA links to a "volcano cam"

    http://www.fs.fed.us/gpnf/volcanocams/msh/

  11. Nanotech Spaceship? by billstewart · · Score: 2, Funny

    It's how the dolphins are planning to get off the planet.

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  12. Re:Just reassuring locals by anubi · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Yeh, it makes me think of the physics behind Old Faithful.

    Except we get lava, not hot water.

    I think we all know how a "relaxation oscillator" works, and Mt. St. Helens sure looks like the physical implementation of one to me.

    The difference is the volcano has the phase change difference of the liquid lava forming a dense rock upon cooling which introduces a significant chaotic factor into the dwell time, so no one knows just when its gonna cycle.

    Not the thing for a good night's sleep.

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  13. -- I was camping near the blast zone by kefler · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I was pretty young.. but I sort of remember..

    It was a Sunday (for the first bigger eruption in 1980). We were supposedly in the 'safe zone', but we all know how that went. We had just gotten up out of the tents when the ground shook continuously for minutes like an earthquake.. Then we could see a grey cloud rising up near the horizon.

    Very quickly, the cloud appeared to go so high that it was over us. There was lightning at the edge of the cloud. Rain began to fall immediately, I remember it was warm and black.. Looking closely at a drop you could see the individual ash particles.

    By that time, we had pulled up the tent with everything in side it and threw it in the back of the truck in a single motion.

    The ride back to Yakima, WA was slow, and the visibility was just about zero. It was hard to breath and the roads were jammed with panic'd people.. We later found out that the campground we were at was covered in a large amount of burning hot mud.

    When we got home there was ash everywhere, and it stayed dark for what seemed like days. I remember wearing a mask for weeks afterwards to go outside.

  14. That's why we need by evronm · · Score: 4, Funny

    Giant paper.

  15. Shark! Shark! by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 2, Funny

    Everybody out of the lava right now!

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  16. this is normal by buldir · · Score: 2, Informative

    This latest activity is normal for a volcano that typically erupts more silicic lava. The magma at depth is generally more viscous and after an eruption the momentum of the magma migration slows, but still continues to rise up through the vent due to residual pressure beneath the volcano. This type of thing occurs quite a bit at another volcano in Kamchatka, Russia, called Bezymianny. The dome builds up, then collapses, then rebuilds, etc. The USGS should no doubt be concerned with the growth of the dome at MSH, as a major collapse can easily cause a pyroclastic flow...nasty stuff. Questions remain, however, how much more magma is beneath the volcano and what is the rate of replenishment?

  17. You know what we need?... by deadphoenix · · Score: 2, Funny

    .. giant paper and giant scissors.

  18. Old News by trigggl · · Score: 2, Informative
    This news is so old, the fin has already fallen over. The fin was reaching heights as high as part of the lowest parts of the crater rim, but has now fallen over. I didn't bother to read the article because I've been following this since the mountain became active again. It's errupting about a truckload of lava/rock a second. If memory serves, at the current rate, it will rebuild in something like 20 years.

    I was in Eugene, Oregon when it blew in the 80's. I heard and felt a double blow all the way from there. All the Windows in the neighborhood were rattling. The news may keep saying it blew the top off, but that's wrong. Most of the mountain came down in a landslide. Once the landslide started, the pressure blew up and in the direction of the slide. It's the biggest landslide in recorded history. Watch out because when Rainier slides, it will be bigger. Scientists believe it's overdue. There are deposits from a previous slide in Seattle.

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  19. My mistake, this is a second fin by trigggl · · Score: 2, Informative

    I guess I should have RTFA.

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