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Grand Theft Auto IV Unveiled On 360
Despite expectations that this would be the least eventful of the E3 pre-conferences, Microsoft's Peter Moore drops the news that Grand Theft Auto IV will be on Xbox 360. Rockstar and Microsoft have teamed up to do exclusive episodic content in the GTA gameworld for the 360. Slated to release October 16, 2007 in North America, October 19 in Europe. Other details include lots of support for Live Arcade titles (Sonic, Galaga, Street Fighter II), the official unveiling of Shadowrun for the 360 and PC, the airing of the Halo 3 Teaser Trailer (which is already on Xbox Live), and much discussion of 'Live Anywhere'. This last is an expansion of Xbox Live to PC and cell platforms in addition to the Xbox arena.
The game will be released for both the PS3 and the Xbox 360 on October 16th, 2007.
The Xbox version will have "episodic releases" via Xbox Live.
Sounds like the new GTA will actually be for both the 360 and PS3, but extra GTA episodes will be availiable exclusivly through XBox Live. So the original game will be for both but there will be extra content exclusive to the 360. Stay tuned for more details folks, but the MS conferance.... well all I can say is .... WOW!
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way to read the press release you linked to :p
"Grand Theft Auto IV will be simultaneously available for the PlayStation®3 and Xbox 360(TM)"
I think that settles it.
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Uhhh...no. October of 2007...thats 2007 not 2006
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http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/060509/20060509006185.htm
NEW YORK--(BUSINESS WIRE)--May 9, 2006--Rockstar Games, the universally-renowned publishing label of Take-Two Interactive Software, Inc. (NASDAQ: TTWO - News), is proud to announce Grand Theft Auto IV, the next-generation console debut of the genre-defining Grand Theft Auto franchise. Developed by world-class designers Rockstar North, Grand Theft Auto IV will be simultaneously available for the PlayStation®3 and Xbox 360(TM) and is currently planned to be in stores in North America on October 16, 2007 and in Europe on October 19, 2007.
"While the game will be available for both the PS3 and 360, only XBox Live will have access to the 'Throwing Chairs Monkeyboy' mod. Rockstar CTO Paul Walker was quick to go on record that the game will *not* become a single-platformer: 'We would never marginalize our most successful demographic, overweight white suburban kids who wish they were dangerous Negroes.'"
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This is actually pretty cool. It means that the acheivements and gamerscore are coming to Vista. Xbox live support for multiplayer (good bye gamespy) and its cross platform. I know PC gamers will dispise the concept of playing with console kiddies but given the chance I think this will be huge. Friends lists, video and voice chat, gamerscore, acheivements this is all big and welcome news for Vista. The additional connectivity to the windows community will only help the 360. Leave it to microsoft to once agian figure out how to leverage its OS monopoly to help in other markets.
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Even if the game is only exclusive on 360 for a few months and then comes out on other platforms (as is currently the case with ps2 GTA), the majority of the sales happen during the exclusivity period. After that, the hype pretty much dies. I was amazed to see how low the sales numbers were for the GTA games on xbox.
So, whatever is the case with this GTA exclusivity for 360, it's a huge blow against sony. In north america at least.
if anyone wonders, here the original Summary:
Grand Theft Auto IV Unveiled As 360 Exclusive
Posted by Zonk on Tuesday May 09, @04:03PM
from the didn't-expect-that dept.
E3 Microsoft XBox (Games)
Despite expectations that this would be the least eventful of the E3 pre-conferences, Microsoft's Peter
Moore drops the news that Grand Theft Auto IV will be an Xbox 360 exclusive.
Thank you Mr. AC! Folks, please mod the AC up so people can see what a fucking douchebag Zonk is.
Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken - Tyler Durden
As others have commented, it will be released for both PS3 and 360 at the same time.
What no one is mentioning is the PC release. Rockstar tends to wait for a few months after console release before releasing the PC version. They're not being jerks. They're retooling it for the purpose of bringing it over to PC. That's why the GTA series hasn't suffered from consolitis, by and large. I'll be looking forward to GTA IV on the PC, even if I have to wait half a year.
The expectation of GTA lock-out was the one barrier which has kept me from seriously considering the 360.
The X-Box exclusive DOA series is *almost* enough on its own to make me want a 360, and hopes for more HALO games also has me rather jazzed over it. My "wait and see" attitude has mostly been based on a fondness for GTA:III & GTA:VC, which were exclusive to the PS2 for about a year.
If Sony does not have the GTA series locked up in their stable, what is there left to wait and see? BluRay? The Wii controller?
Information wants to be anthropomorphized.
Episodic content is just a way for them to raise the price of the game without raising the price on the pricetag in the stores.
I'm sick of this crap where game companies think they can get $1.00 out of us for what would have been $0.10 of content had it been in an expansion pack, or included in the game to begin with. I'm also pissed at all the stupid moron gamers that buy this crap that 'costs less than a cup of coffee' because they don't understand that they're paying way more money in the long run; thus letting the micropayment mind-games continue.
I wish one of the next-gen consoles didn't have an online component, so they wouldn't be able to pull this crap. I'd buy that console instead of the other ones.
Changing material after the fact destroys any context for comments written to rebut the claims published on slashdot. May I suggest a retraction next time? It's the honest thing to do.
"The Basic PS3 is crippled."
Hardly the Base PS3 has pretty much the same feature set as the top of the line 360. Does the 360 have an external HDMI port? Nope. Both machines can do HDMI with a break out cable via their multi-out connectors. The base PS3 is lacking the ability to do dual HDTV, but is that really an issue for most people, I doubt it.
Let us see what else the base PS3 is lacking.
-WiFi built in, you can add that the same way you can add WiFi to the 360.
-The card reader, humm the 360 doesn't have one at all. If the PS3 is as multimedia based as Sony claims you probavbly will be able to connect a standard USB card reader to it, if you want to transfer photos and the like that way.
So the ONLY things you will give up with the base PS3 are a built in card reader and WiFi (both of which can be added later), and an external HDMI port for dual HDTV support. Guess what these are exactly the same features missing from the 360.
There are enough good reasons to think Sony has made an error with the PS3, that you don't need to go making up reasons.
And your comments about CPU utilization are wrong. The multiple cores on the 360 don't do much without being programmed for. IIRC, Microsoft has said that none of the current crop of games take much, if any, advantage of the extra cores.
Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken - Tyler Durden
AFAIK, VC and SA is based on the GTA3 engine. GTA4 is a new engine, hence the new name.
Uh, ok...
Let's compare features of the high-end packages:
HDMI support
PS3 - included
Xbox360 - N/A
802.11
PS3 - included
Xbox360 - Add-on available for $100
60gb HD
PS3 - included
Xbox360 - N/A, only 20GB HD available
Motion-sensitive controllers
PS3 - included
Xbox360 - N/A
Blu-ray
PS3 - included
Xbox360 - N/A, HD-DVD available (someday) for additional cost
etc... Hell, the Wii is going to include motion-sensitve controllers and wifi. I'd rather drop $600 up front to have those features included, instead of $400 then piecing the damn thing together when/if components come together. Say you spend $400 for an Xbox360, then add wifi. That makes it $500. Now add HD-DVD which will be at least $100, now you're up to $600. That's the cost of a high-end PS3 and you still don't have all the features it includes. But hey, to each his own.
Sony is messing up big time in the gaming world, the PS3 is just the latest bastard creation where they didn't listen to the market or the players.
As for games, they can't even hold developers to the PS3 platform because of the lack of developer support and CRAP development tools for it.
They have a great Cell processor technology and even Sony doesn't seem to understand the best ways to get the most out of it, let alone provide developers with tools to do so.
Can you give ANY proof to back up those claims?
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Untrue. The PSP didn't ship with a camera or a GPS, and yet, here they come. I direct your attention to the USB ports - they work pretty much like the ones on your PC. Unless of course, Sony has suddenly decided that it doesn't like to make add-on peripherals for their toys, like they have forever.
WiFi can be added, cardreaders can be added, HD is removable. HDMI can NOT be added, but you don't get HDMI at all with X360/Wii so I consider that moot.
So which company is actually trying to make the unit affordable and yet not lock the user into a model they have to trade in or pitch when they decide they want the upper end unit?
Answer is all three. MS wants you to buy crap on Live, Sony wants you to buy crap on whatever their Live is as well as more hardware (PSP connectivity), Nintendo wants you to buy add-on parts for the Wii remote and old skool games online. Don't be naive.
Sony has so lost their minds, and not only with the PS3. The whole Blu-Ray catastrophy,
Stop right there. The BluRay camp has 4 of the 5 big studios on board, and Sony is about to flood the market by trojaning BluRay into what will certainly be (at least initially) a big console release - and they will do it for less than the $1k that either a HD-DVD or BluRay standalone player goes for today. There is no catastrophe other than your fricking ignorant post.
As for games, they can't even hold developers to the PS3 platform because of the lack of developer support and CRAP development tools for it.
Really. Cite something.
In comparison to XBox360, developers can use OpenGL and DirectX (XNA) technologies and still get the most out of the multiprocessor system without being specialists in multi-cpu game design. Let alone the fact that one development process can produce a PC and XBox title without having to port the title or develop textures and meshes at lower levels between the platforms to get the games to work.
Ahhh, now I see where you are coming from. Please elucidate for us why this advantage does not translate to the Wii and PS3 as well, since they also employ OpenGL?
You can have your PS3, just make sure you buy the more expensive one, so you don't have to chuck the 'basic' model later on when you find you want to watch HD movies...
I will have to chuck my X360 if I want to watch HD movies since it has no HDMI port.
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It's too bad that Nintendo generally (and Miyamoto specifically) hate GTA. A Nintendo-style sendup of GTA starring Mario would be pretty cool. He could go into business selling mushrooms on the street, aggressively taking territory from Bowzer's gang [of Haitians].
but why would PC gamers pay to play on Live when they can play on free servers elsewhere?
Nearly every single Live Player has a voice communication mike. You don't have to deal with cheaters on live (I have never encountered a cheater on live, and I am not aware of any cheating software - the only kind of cheating I am aware of is sometimes player intentionaly lower their bandwidth to cause themselves to lag... but there is no software they lets people see through walls or aimbots or whatever like on the PC)... every player has an ID tied to their credit card, so people are less likely to engage in racist/stupid behavior, and when they do I can permanently ban them from my games. I can maintain an integrated list of all the players I like, send them an invitation to play directly from the game, I can see what games they are playing directly from the game.
It is definitly worth the $60 a year for the service they offer.
Rockstar has said that the current GTA Series are all part of the "GTA3" universe. That is, Grand Theft Auto: 3, Grand Theft Auto: Vice City, Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories, Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas and Grand Theft Auto: Electric Boogaloo are all "GTA3" in a sense. Rockstar has said that after San Andreas they want to take a long hard look at the series, and retool it so that GTA4 is going to be a leap like the one you saw from the second to the third.
I don't know if this is still the case but I remember them making a big deal about it between the release of Vice City and San Andreas.
Small potatoes make the steak look bigger.
You forgot:
Rumble controllers:
PS3: N/A
XBox 360: Included
Being able to play a game for less than $500
PS3: N/A
XBox 360: Included
XNA Framework:
PS3: N/A
XBox 360: Included
You can say anything you want by carefully tailoring what you claim to be "Features"