I'm surprised there was no mention of Python. I think Python is a good language to know. It seems to be used a number of places and forces people to write easily readable (and therefore maintainable) code. And I thought it was pretty easy to learn, especially if you have OOP experience.
but you never see mention of it in the "real world," and this article is part of that trend. Why?
I think it depends on where you look in the "real world". I've seen Opera mentioned a lot, just not always when it comes to the desktop. While I use Firefox on my desktop and laptop, I use Opera on my PDA, cell phone, and Wii. Last I checked, IE and Mozilla/Firefox weren't available for any of these devices (at least, with respect to the devices I own).
Also, this article is focusing on the discussion between 2 specific people - one works on Mozilla, one works on IE. If an Opera developer were to become involved, Opera would be part of the discussion.
If you take BSD-licensed source and modify it, you can release your changes under the GPL or whatever license you wish. However, the original source that you started with will still be BSD-licensed. Only your modifications/additions will be under the different license.
However, if you take GPL source and modify it, you HAVE to release your changes/additions under the GPL. You can't release your changes under a different license.
The whole issue at hand is re-licensing. You can't take BSD code, change/add to it, strip the BSD license, and release it under the GPL (or the other way around). You can't remove the original license from the parts of code that aren't yours. Period. No matter what the original license was.
I was able to install it fine and the download page correctly recognized that I had it installed, but when I tried viewing any of the QuickStart examples, there was a "Download Silverlight" button in place of the example previews. If you click it, it takes you to the download page, where it then proceeds to thank you for installing Silverlight. Basically, Flashblock blocks the content and there's no way to view it. You have to turn Flashblock off completely in order to view any Silverlight content.
$3,500+ for an almost 20lb laptop that I still can't upgrade sound and graphics on, when I can build an equilvelant, upgradable desktop for about half that price?
I see your point, but I don't know if you can compare the PS3 to the Wii. I own a Wii and it's hands-down one of my favorite systems ever, but I don't think the PS3 and Wii are aimed at the same types of people. With that steep PS3 price tag, you get a game system that is backwards compatible with almost all previous Sony titles (I know there are some issues, but for the most part you can play a very good majority of PS1 and PS2 titles on a PS3), DVD and Blu-Ray playback, HDTV capability, etc. The Wii is backwards compatible with one Nintendo system, the GameCube (you can download older games via the Virtual Console, but still have to pay for them even if you already own the carts), has no special disc player (as it stands right now, I can't even watch DVDs on it), no HDTV capability, etc. The Wii is a great gaming system, but I think Sony is wanting the PS3 to be more than just a gaming system. However, I paid just over $300 for the Wii, a game, and extra controller. I paid less and got few features. But I also wasn't looking for a lot of those features the PS3 offers.
I think the comparison you made between the XBox360 and PS3 stands as a valid point though.
Cedega users were locked out of their accounts for, what, ~5-6 days, and received 20 days free play time. I've been playing WoW since day 1. Of all the times servers were down and my account was unaccessible/unplayable (which has been way more than 5-6 days), I've received 10 days free play time. What Blizzard did was hardly stingy, IMHO.
The BSD license also makes it nearly impossible to compete against proprietary software, since the proprietary software can always incorporate your improvements, but you can't incorporate its improvements.
Of course, people who licence stuff under the BSDL don't care about that (which is why they do so).
For sure. I mean, look at the Apache projects. The Apache license doesn't require modifications to be released (similar to the BSDL), and look how badly it's doing in competing against proprietary software. Not that they care about that sort of thing.../sarcasm
Perhaps you should enlighten the people over at the Free-, Net-, and OpenBSD projects. You can save them tons of time and effort by letting them know that it's nearly impossible for them to compete with proprietary software, because I'm pretty sure they are unaware of these "facts".
Interesting. I bought my first cell phone at the age of 22, and my parents got one shortly after. Yet strangely, my parents were able to communicate with me just fine for the first 22 years of my life...
Sorry, Blizzard, I loved Starcraft I and II, Diablo I and II, but..
So... you loved their PC games, including one that never existed (perhaps you mean StarCraft: Brood Wars, not Starcraft II?), but you will only buy the game they have yet to announce if they release it on a system that has yet to be released and you have yet to actually play?
Please tell me there is some sort of sarcasm or humor that I'm missing...
In addition, I'd like to see him have all private computer access restricted (can only use a computer in the presence of an adult until he demonstrates he can act like an adult)
That's a good idea. After all, it worked for Zero Cool.
Sony didn't invent it. It was developed by SunnComm Technologies. Sure, Sony used it, but they didn't have a hand in the development. then they want to change the P2P system to identify file sharers.
From TFA, it says that when you download a file it will show you the username of the person you are getting it from, a comment, and a rating. How is that any different from eMule or LimeWire?
Yes, but I think the legality of the way mplayer does it is questionable since it uses Windows DLLs directly. It sounds like this is going to be completely separate code written by Real.
I'm a long-time Slack user. One of the reasons I love Slack and use it everywhere I can is because of it's versitility. I can have a super stable server and a super stable desktop with the same version of the same OS. As it stands, Slack is quick to install, lean, stable, and it just works. Patrick's whole philosophy is Keep It Simple Stupid. Moving in the direction of enterprise-class servers would not be KISS. Also, the people behind Slack consist of Patrick and... well, pretty much just Patrick. How would one person maintain a distro aimed at the enterprise market? I like the fact that one person is behind the distro. Patrick makes the decisions, and that's it. There's no need to fear a split with the maintainers or delays in releases due to arguments about what should or shouldn't be included. I fully agree that Slackware makes a great server OS, but I would be really sad if Patrick re-focused Slack's direction and made it a pure server OS aimed at the enterprise market.
And as such, this ad is incredibly problematic. Anybody who doesn't recognize at least that is ignoring history itself.
Oh yes, you're right. Perhaps you'd prefer that white people and black people don't appear in commercials together? Yeah, that's it - segregation is the answer!
/sarcasm
Please. Anyone who doesn't recognize this as a metaphor, with a sexual twist, for the available PSP colors is a moron. I'm sorry, but this commercial is only racist if you want it to be.
1up.com had a little more detail on the "other issues" -
New York's District Attorney is looking for information covering a number of issues, including knowledge of company officers and directors regarding the Hot Coffee's development and subsequent failure to remove from the shipped game; the game's submission to the ESRB and any admissions to Hot Coffee (or lack thereof, really); disclosures and presentations of acquisitions, partnering arrangements and earnings results; invoices from, payments to, and termination of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP and retention of Ernst & Young LLP; acquisitions in 2005; certain compensation and human resources documents; and documents concerning the board of directors and committees.
If I'm reading that right, I think the Hot Coffee mod should be the least of their worries. The mod may not be a good thing, but the other stuff looks like it has the potential for worse legal repercussions.
$499 for a PS3 with 1080p support? Get your facts straight. Only the $599 version supports 1080p.
Bzzt. Wrong. Both versions support 1080p. The less expensive version does not support HDMI. Perhaps it is you who needs to get the facts straight. Take a look: http://www.ps3portal.com/sony/article/308.html There aren't even launch titles for the PS3 yet!
Hmm, that's funny... My first generation PS2 (the older big one) still runs like a charm. And yet, I know a couple people who have had Xbox360s for less than 6 months who have had to already get replacements.
You are either completely clueless, or one of the anti-Sony koolaid drinkers. Careful, or the bandwagon might leave without you.
You complained about Theo's name calling by calling him names. That's called being a hypocrite. If you need to used some twisted logic about it being ok for you and not for Theo, then you do that and make yourself feel better. That's far more acceptable than being rude to someone who was being extremely patient.
Please. You have no idea what was said in private emails and such. If you read the mailing list post, you'd see the message posted by the Hifn employee talks about keeping the source code proprietary. That has nothing to do with the issue at hand. Theo doesn't want code, he wants specs. The whole message completely dodges the issues Theo is having. I'd be pretty frustrated too, if I were him.
We all get it. It's pretty obvious from your other 5 posts on this article that you don't like Theo. Good for you. However, some people do admire him and the work that he's done.
I agree. I can meet the devs, play unreleased content, watch costume contests, and see Level 60 Elite Tauren Chieftan play any day of the week. I'd rather pay $85 + airfare + hotel to lug my computer half way across the country to play multiplayer StarCraft and WarCraft with a bunch of other people. I mean, it's not like I can't do that from home via Battle.net or anything.
"Spacious" is a relative term. In terms of a desktop PC, no it's not that big. But seeing as how the Xbox360 has a 20GB HD and the Wii has no HD (although it has a USB storage drive port), I'd say a 60GB HD is spacious for a game console.
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I'm surprised there was no mention of Python. I think Python is a good language to know. It seems to be used a number of places and forces people to write easily readable (and therefore maintainable) code. And I thought it was pretty easy to learn, especially if you have OOP experience.
but you never see mention of it in the "real world," and this article is part of that trend. Why?
I think it depends on where you look in the "real world". I've seen Opera mentioned a lot, just not always when it comes to the desktop. While I use Firefox on my desktop and laptop, I use Opera on my PDA, cell phone, and Wii. Last I checked, IE and Mozilla/Firefox weren't available for any of these devices (at least, with respect to the devices I own).
Also, this article is focusing on the discussion between 2 specific people - one works on Mozilla, one works on IE. If an Opera developer were to become involved, Opera would be part of the discussion.
If you take BSD-licensed source and modify it, you can release your changes under the GPL or whatever license you wish. However, the original source that you started with will still be BSD-licensed. Only your modifications/additions will be under the different license.
However, if you take GPL source and modify it, you HAVE to release your changes/additions under the GPL. You can't release your changes under a different license.
The whole issue at hand is re-licensing. You can't take BSD code, change/add to it, strip the BSD license, and release it under the GPL (or the other way around). You can't remove the original license from the parts of code that aren't yours. Period. No matter what the original license was.
I was able to install it fine and the download page correctly recognized that I had it installed, but when I tried viewing any of the QuickStart examples, there was a "Download Silverlight" button in place of the example previews. If you click it, it takes you to the download page, where it then proceeds to thank you for installing Silverlight. Basically, Flashblock blocks the content and there's no way to view it. You have to turn Flashblock off completely in order to view any Silverlight content.
This has been my experience anyway, YMMV.
FYI, it won't work if you have Flashblock enabled on FF.
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s/equilvelant/equivalent
$3,500+ for an almost 20lb laptop that I still can't upgrade sound and graphics on, when I can build an equilvelant, upgradable desktop for about half that price?
Hah, that's a good one...
I see your point, but I don't know if you can compare the PS3 to the Wii. I own a Wii and it's hands-down one of my favorite systems ever, but I don't think the PS3 and Wii are aimed at the same types of people. With that steep PS3 price tag, you get a game system that is backwards compatible with almost all previous Sony titles (I know there are some issues, but for the most part you can play a very good majority of PS1 and PS2 titles on a PS3), DVD and Blu-Ray playback, HDTV capability, etc. The Wii is backwards compatible with one Nintendo system, the GameCube (you can download older games via the Virtual Console, but still have to pay for them even if you already own the carts), has no special disc player (as it stands right now, I can't even watch DVDs on it), no HDTV capability, etc. The Wii is a great gaming system, but I think Sony is wanting the PS3 to be more than just a gaming system. However, I paid just over $300 for the Wii, a game, and extra controller. I paid less and got few features. But I also wasn't looking for a lot of those features the PS3 offers.
I think the comparison you made between the XBox360 and PS3 stands as a valid point though.
"Maise is a grass, right?"
No, maize is corn.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maize
Cedega users were locked out of their accounts for, what, ~5-6 days, and received 20 days free play time. I've been playing WoW since day 1. Of all the times servers were down and my account was unaccessible/unplayable (which has been way more than 5-6 days), I've received 10 days free play time. What Blizzard did was hardly stingy, IMHO.
The BSD license also makes it nearly impossible to compete against proprietary software, since the proprietary software can always incorporate your improvements, but you can't incorporate its improvements.
Of course, people who licence stuff under the BSDL don't care about that (which is why they do so).
For sure. I mean, look at the Apache projects. The Apache license doesn't require modifications to be released (similar to the BSDL), and look how badly it's doing in competing against proprietary software. Not that they care about that sort of thing...
Perhaps you should enlighten the people over at the Free-, Net-, and OpenBSD projects. You can save them tons of time and effort by letting them know that it's nearly impossible for them to compete with proprietary software, because I'm pretty sure they are unaware of these "facts".
Who really gives a shit anyway? I don't.
Perhaps ISVs do, since they'll want a release that works well enough so they can test their software for compatibility issues.
That's my way of communicating with my kid.
Interesting. I bought my first cell phone at the age of 22, and my parents got one shortly after. Yet strangely, my parents were able to communicate with me just fine for the first 22 years of my life...
Sorry, Blizzard, I loved Starcraft I and II, Diablo I and II, but
So... you loved their PC games, including one that never existed (perhaps you mean StarCraft: Brood Wars, not Starcraft II?), but you will only buy the game they have yet to announce if they release it on a system that has yet to be released and you have yet to actually play?
Please tell me there is some sort of sarcasm or humor that I'm missing...
In addition, I'd like to see him have all private computer access restricted (can only use a computer in the presence of an adult until he demonstrates he can act like an adult)
That's a good idea. After all, it worked for Zero Cool.
Sony didn't invent it. It was developed by SunnComm Technologies. Sure, Sony used it, but they didn't have a hand in the development.
then they want to change the P2P system to identify file sharers.
From TFA, it says that when you download a file it will show you the username of the person you are getting it from, a comment, and a rating. How is that any different from eMule or LimeWire?
Yes, but I think the legality of the way mplayer does it is questionable since it uses Windows DLLs directly. It sounds like this is going to be completely separate code written by Real.
I do love mplayer though.
No.
I'm a long-time Slack user. One of the reasons I love Slack and use it everywhere I can is because of it's versitility. I can have a super stable server and a super stable desktop with the same version of the same OS. As it stands, Slack is quick to install, lean, stable, and it just works. Patrick's whole philosophy is Keep It Simple Stupid. Moving in the direction of enterprise-class servers would not be KISS. Also, the people behind Slack consist of Patrick and... well, pretty much just Patrick. How would one person maintain a distro aimed at the enterprise market? I like the fact that one person is behind the distro. Patrick makes the decisions, and that's it. There's no need to fear a split with the maintainers or delays in releases due to arguments about what should or shouldn't be included. I fully agree that Slackware makes a great server OS, but I would be really sad if Patrick re-focused Slack's direction and made it a pure server OS aimed at the enterprise market.
That's my $0.02
Oh yes, you're right. Perhaps you'd prefer that white people and black people don't appear in commercials together? Yeah, that's it - segregation is the answer!
Please. Anyone who doesn't recognize this as a metaphor, with a sexual twist, for the available PSP colors is a moron. I'm sorry, but this commercial is only racist if you want it to be.
If I'm reading that right, I think the Hot Coffee mod should be the least of their worries. The mod may not be a good thing, but the other stuff looks like it has the potential for worse legal repercussions.
$499 for a PS3 with 1080p support? Get your facts straight. Only the $599 version supports 1080p.
Bzzt. Wrong. Both versions support 1080p. The less expensive version does not support HDMI. Perhaps it is you who needs to get the facts straight. Take a look: http://www.ps3portal.com/sony/article/308.html
There aren't even launch titles for the PS3 yet!
The PS2, OTOH, is notoriously unreliable
Hmm, that's funny... My first generation PS2 (the older big one) still runs like a charm. And yet, I know a couple people who have had Xbox360s for less than 6 months who have had to already get replacements.
You are either completely clueless, or one of the anti-Sony koolaid drinkers. Careful, or the bandwagon might leave without you.
On my system...
/etc/rc.d/rc.M. That will pretty much give you an exact idea of what order the scripts are called in.
Hmmm, does lpr launch from rc.net1, rc.net2, or something else?
Something else. rc.M
When does nfs start relative to ssh?
After. Both in rc.inet2, lines 101 and 82 respectively.
grep is your friend - Learn it. Use it. Love it.
BSD-style scripts really aren't hard to figure out. For Slackware, check out - http://www.slackware.org/config/init.php
Read through
You complained about Theo's name calling by calling him names. That's called being a hypocrite. If you need to used some twisted logic about it being ok for you and not for Theo, then you do that and make yourself feel better.
That's far more acceptable than being rude to someone who was being extremely patient.
Please. You have no idea what was said in private emails and such. If you read the mailing list post, you'd see the message posted by the Hifn employee talks about keeping the source code proprietary. That has nothing to do with the issue at hand. Theo doesn't want code, he wants specs. The whole message completely dodges the issues Theo is having. I'd be pretty frustrated too, if I were him.
We all get it. It's pretty obvious from your other 5 posts on this article that you don't like Theo. Good for you. However, some people do admire him and the work that he's done.
I agree. I can meet the devs, play unreleased content, watch costume contests, and see Level 60 Elite Tauren Chieftan play any day of the week. I'd rather pay $85 + airfare + hotel to lug my computer half way across the country to play multiplayer StarCraft and WarCraft with a bunch of other people. I mean, it's not like I can't do that from home via Battle.net or anything.
"Spacious" is a relative term. In terms of a desktop PC, no it's not that big. But seeing as how the Xbox360 has a 20GB HD and the Wii has no HD (although it has a USB storage drive port), I'd say a 60GB HD is spacious for a game console.