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The Failure of Information Security

Noam Eppel writes to share a recent editorial regarding the current state of information security. From the article: "It is time to admit what many security professional already know: We as security professional are drastically failing ourselves, our community and the people we are meant to protect. Too many of our security layers of defense are broken. Security professionals are enjoying a surge in business and growing salaries and that is why we tolerate the dismal situation we are facing. Yet it is our mandate, first and foremost, to protect."

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  1. Failure of security professionals? by Whiney+Mac+Fanboy · · Score: 5, Insightful
    "It is time to admit what many security professional already know: We as security professional are drastically failing ourselves, our community and the people we are meant to protect. Too many of our security layers of defense are broken. Security professionals are enjoying a surge in business and growing salaries and that is why we tolerate the dismal situation we are facing. Yet it is our mandate, first and foremost, to protect."
    Bollocks - this implies that there's more security professionals could do, but they choose not to, to drum up business.

    The sad reality of the matter is the vast majority of the threats they mention - Spyware, phishing, Trojans, viruses, worms, rootkits, spam, web app vulnerabilities & ddos attacks - are enabled by the existence of botnets (to stage attacks from, send spam, provide anonymity, host phishing webservers, etc)

    The source of (the vast majority of) botnets is Microsoft's security failures in the late 90's/early 00s. How are security professionals supposed to combat something that happened in the past in another company?

    Furhtermore, the list of data losses
    Credit Card Breach Exposes 40 Million Accounts
    Bank Of America Loses A Million Customer Records
    Pentagon Hacker Compromises Personal Data
    Online Attack Puts 1.4 Million Records At Risk
    Hacker Faces Extradition Over 'Biggest Military Computer Hack Of All Time'
    Laptop Theft Puts Data Of 98,000 At Risk
    Medical Group: Data On 185,000 People Stolen
    Hackers Grab LexisNexis Info on 32000 People
    ChoicePoint Data Theft Widens To 145,000 People
    PIN Scandal 'Worst Hack Ever'; Citibank Only The Start
    ID Theft Hit 3.6 Million In U.S.
    Georgia Technology Authority Hack Exposes Confidential Information of 570,000 Members
    Scammers Access Data On 35,000 Californians
    Payroll Firm Pulls Web Services Citing Data Leak
    Hacker Steals Air Force Officers' Personal Information
    Undisclosed Number of Verizon Employees at Risk of Identity Theft
    can be blamed on companies who have failed to follow their security team's advice. Not on the security team itself.

    The story makes some good points, but blames the wrong people.
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    1. Re:Failure of security professionals? by BorgDrone · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Furhtermore, the list of data losses (...) can be blamed on companies who have failed to follow their security team's advice. Not on the security team itself.
      Not entirely correct. Yes, users are morons, and yes they often fail to follow the advice of the security team. However, it's the security team's responsibility to get proper behaviour into the users stupid little heads.

      Security is not just the technical part, educating your users is huge part of it and if users fail to follow advice the security team has failed in this part of their job. You can whine how stupid users are, but that doesn't change reality, it's the security team's responsibility to make them less stupid.
    2. Re:Failure of security professionals? by Bacon+Bits · · Score: 5, Insightful
      I don't think that's what he saying. That is, users are not to blame. The decision makers are.

      Let's say, as an IS professional, you explain to managment the need to restrict user accounts with Administrator rights, the need to implement an intrusion detection device, the need to eliminate spam, the need to make the network infrastructure fault tolerant, the need to update the antivirus client to something that can detect modern threats, and the need to educate users on how to operate their systems securely. Management denies budgeting these things on the basis that they are not necessary, and would you please increase maximum mailbox size again?

      If the company is unwilling to do what is necessary to secure the environment, then as an IS professional you are largely helpless.

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    3. Re:Failure of security professionals? by symbolic · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That all depends...many organizations have positions that are characterized by "all of the responsibility but none of the authority". This means that as a security professional, you may be able to recommend certain practices, but unless one has the authority to see to it that these recommendations are implemented, there really isn't a whole lot more that can be done.

    4. Re:Failure of security professionals? by Linker3000 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Bad perspective.

      If you consider the users to be morons and know that they will fail to follow security advice than you plan for this. You can implement training to 'un-moron' them to a degree, but it is not wise to consider that the post-training person will do what they have been told all of the time.

      *ANYONE* in any support or consultancy role that starts to say to themselves (about the users) "You'd think that they would/wouldn't...." (eg: You'd think that they would know not to login as someone else") is totally missing the point about human behaviour and is not approaching the problem or their role in the correct way.

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    5. Re:Failure of security professionals? by kfg · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Your users are so stupid they DVDs in their CDROMs, then complain that the drive wont play their movie.

      Your users are so stupid they tryed to plug their new phone into a ethernet port.


      This is ignorance, not stupidity. The people who wrote the jokes were too stupid to know the difference.

      I like LBJ's line about stupidity:

      They couldn't pour piss out of a boot if the instructions were written on the heel."

      KFG

    6. Re:Failure of security professionals? by scoove · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The story makes some good points, but blames the wrong people.

      Exactly. Senior management (aka the "C level positions" like CFO, COO, CEO) just refuse to integrate information assurance, integrity and control into their practices. It is no different than rejecting GAAP and instead using creative accounting ala Worldcom and Enron. Yea, this stuff is hard and complex. But so is the world of finance, and yet we are required to figure it out there.

      I work for a firm that consults to smaller financial institutions for their IT audits, security and risk management areas. These smaller organizations lack a lot in resources but the senior managers are usually committed to improvement (it helps that they're regulated to do so).

      But regulation doesn't always help. I just turned down a job offer for the senior information security position for a large insurance company in our area after going through several interviews. I discovered that they wanted someone to sit in an office, use a proprietary security suite to generate reports to make sure they were in the file when the regulators come, and otherwise leave things alone. Zero access to C people. They were shocked (and the headhunter pissed since he thought he was getting a commission out of this one) but I refuse to be the certified auditor who signs off on a broken system with unaccountable senior managers.

      I asked the Senior VP of Operations what he thought information security was, and as expected, I got a technical answer - "managing firewalls, IDS, making sure people are using good passwords, staying on top of the directory services, etc." Not a single comment about the administrative area, let alone risk issues. If we security professionals are remiss, it is in accepting a paycheck from firms that refuse to operate ethically in this area.

    7. Re:Failure of security professionals? by SonOfThor · · Score: 3, Insightful
      That all depends...many organizations have positions that are characterized by "all of the responsibility but none of the authority". This means that as a security professional, you may be able to recommend certain practices, but unless one has the authority to see to it that these recommendations are implemented, there really isn't a whole lot more that can be done.


      This is one of the reasons I refuse to ever work as anything less thant Chief Information Security Officer - I have seen SO many directors, administrators, etc.. that are "responsible" for information security, but have little or no authority to implement the changes that they feel are required to achieve their security goals. I prefer to work as a consultant - often on the side of those with limited authority but maximum responsiblity, to give credibility and support to their cause. It seems to me that Management is more willing to listen to a highly-paid 3rd party's recommendations, even when their own guys may have been screaming the same thing for years!
  2. Sounds a bit harsh to me by giorgiofr · · Score: 5, Interesting

    We as security professional are drastically failing ourselves, our community and the people we are meant to protect.

    This is quite harsh. While it is true that more could be done, it also true that it is thanks to security professionals that things are not as bad as they could be. Yeah, Norton and McAfee are doing their best to scare consumers into buying software that provides ridiculous security. But this is not what we mean by "professionals".
    Also, I am not a "security professional" but I have done my fair share of configuring and securing other people's computers; sometimes thay might have been compromised anyway, but if I had done nothing, many more systems would have been at danger.
    The article lists a long series of threats that endanger our systems everyday - but I fail to see how they are related to security professionals not doing their job. I'd rather blame the criminals.

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  3. A real failure! by VincenzoRomano · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Information security is failing also because information needs to be managed and addressed by non technical people! Also known as "normal people".
    Techniques like phishing or social engineering, as well as a good dose of stupidity and ignorance, can make security technologies useless!
    Like writing down on leaflets PINs and passwords or communicating them via email.

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    Maybe Computers will never be as intelligent as Humans.
    For sure they won't ever become so stupid. [VR-1988]
  4. Interesting but... by datafr0g · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I've read the article and while it's a very informative collection of statistics, I don't believe that Security Professionals are responsible for many of the "Security Failures" listed, nor can they fix the problems. Security Consultants already know most of this stuff and can say what they like to a business, but they do not make the final decision. The holes are in the OS's and the platforms businesses choose and generally the priority isn't security - it's usability, ROI, cost, etc.

    Another point: What are we comparing this to anyway. What I mean is, "bad security" compared to what? How many millions of attempts at compromising security are foiled vs those that get through? The times when businesses actually follow what a security consultant recommends, I guarantee they become a hell of a lot more secure than those that don't.

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  5. The Human Factor by CortoMaltese · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I think TFA pretty much ignores the fact that for the average user, security is just a warm fuzzy feeling they get after they've installed a virus scanner, a firewall, and checked that there's an image of a closed yellow lock somewhere. For security professionals and the like (including myself) it's usually much easier to tackle the technical threats, while it's all too easy ignore the user, which is typically the weakest link in any security critical system.

    I know I am stating the obvious here, but I still think the human factor is almost always greatly underestimated.

    1. Re:The Human Factor by Caledai · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Bold Text = Me
      Italic Text = Boss

      In relation to giving access to a share for large files. [> 200GB]

      Ok, give me the names you want to have write access to this share..
      "I can't be bothered to give u all the names, just give them all access" - [Hundreds of Users]
      You realise that defeats the purpose of having home folders & quota's & that they can delete anything on the drive, and that we have no backup policy or the facilities to back up that drive [> 200 GB]
      So...Just Do It
      Sound familiar anyone?
      This is just basic NTFS and share access rights - nothing complex.
      And I am just a technician - not a security consultant. If they ignore us when we say this - what makes you think they are going to listen to a consultant telling them something they have already dismissed?

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      Although it can be funny, tell them to plug the power in.
  6. Professional Regulation by jtvisona · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It seems to me that if the computer networks and computer industry enjoyed real regulation, any yahoo who passes a CompTIA test wouldn't be able to claim to be a computer consultant, or a security expert, and be allowed to set up crap that allegedly puts our nation at risk via cyberterrorism. as the trumpeters keep blaring. Imagine if anyone could just say he was a lineman and start modifying the power grid, or a police officer and start arresting people. If data is as important as power and control (they are all important types of busses, no?), then data people have to be better trained and regulated like power and control people. Ah, but it's a nascent profession...

  7. PEBKAC by Opportunist · · Score: 5, Funny

    I live and thrive on the inability of people. It's my job to find and eliminate trojans, worms and other malware.

    Time and again I see proof that people, smart people, people with a masters degree and Ph.D., lawyers and bankers, managers with a six to seven figure annual income, become mumbling fools in the presence of a computer. I don't know what it is that those magical boxes emit, but it must be akin to the stupidity ray used in Zak McCracken. Lucas got it wrong there, it's not transmitted through the phone line, it comes out of your computer screen.

    Now the argument comes "Then don't allow them to f... up the system, lock them down and take away their permissions". Anyone who ever said that statement never worked with managers that have egos that require their own offices. Don't you, grunt, DARE to take away any options from him! He is the master of the world, he is the chieftain of chieftains, and YOU dare to tell HIM what he may and what he may not do?

    Security is nice on paper, but it is very hard to do in reality. Not so much because its technicalities. The human factor is by far underrated in IT sec.

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    1. Re:PEBKAC by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 4, Funny

      One minor quibble: it's PEBCAK (Problem Exists Between Chair And Keyboard).

      Either is fine. The product of stupidity and computers is commutative.

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      May the Maths Be with you!
  8. My House isn't 100% secure! by rolfwind · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It must be someone's fault it's not perfect. Okay, I don't want a tomb but be able to interact with the outside world, so I still want doors and windows. But I think the contractors are secretly conspiring together and failing us security wise, because there should be completely unbreakable windows & non-pickable locks on the marketplace. WAAAAH!

  9. Corporate mentality by Aceticon · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The management level corporate posture towards IT security goes like this:
    - We want to have our machines and network secure as long as it doesn't cause too much hassle to people and we don't pay a lot for it.

    In other words, forget about big hardware changes, forget about changing the OS/E-mail client/Word editor/Web browser on the desktops of the staff, forget about getting all laptop users in their own sub-network and forget about retraining our staff to use computers in a way that helps improve our IT security. Oh, and by the way, if the CEO or some other VIP has some funky new program on his laptop that can't connect to the Net, just open those ports in the firewall.

    And now IT Security professionals are to blame?

    What's next? Maybe the cleaning lady at Enron was the one responsible for defrauding the investors????

  10. Failing by mulhall · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "We as security professional are drastically failing ourselves, our community and the people we are meant to protect"

    BS

    You cannot solve cultural problems with technology:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/3639679.stm

  11. Hmmm... by Mostly+a+lurker · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Microsoft has had over two billion downloads of its malicious software removal tool in the last year, which tells us something about the overall size of the malicious software problem.
    Yep: it tells us exactly nothing about the overall size of the malicious software problem. It does, however, indicate that users are using Windows Update (either automatically or manually). [The malicious software removal tool is a critical update.] It is good news that Microsoft has persuaded users to keep up to date on critical updates, I guess.
  12. An Important Note by Effugas · · Score: 2, Insightful

    In the Summer of 2003, the Internet suffered three major worms: Blaster, Nachi, and SoBig.

    We haven't had a worm since. There have been no systemic outbreaks in over three years. Sure, we've had mild rashes, but Zotob vs. Nachi isn't even a comparison, nor is Blaster vs. WMF.

    IE attacks are deeply problematic -- they're wonderfully targetable, among other things. But there's really no replacement for zero-interaction, receive-a-packet-and-you're-owned style vulnerabilities. SP2 put a firewall on every desktop that cared. Since then, no worms.

    That's not to say we're not fighting a painful battle. Really, every day we get to still bank online is another day I'm surprised. But the fact that SP2 was written, was free, and was actually deployed enough to matter is one hell of a win.

    1. Re:An Important Note by Maximum+Prophet · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Gack... That's because those worms were simply malicious. The newer cybercriminal is getting paid for his work, so he's more likely to lie low. Once he's compromised a machine, he doesn't want to get caught by interfering with the owner. Formatting the hard drive, or deleting files is sure to get you noticed. Most of the time these days, users don't know anything is wrong until they have multiple bots on their machine whose combined impact makes their machine impossibly slow.

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  13. A ridiculous article by rann · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I usually don't post but this article is really too much.

    In other news, firefighters KEEP fighting fires worldwide! Despite their work, fires seem to keep burning stuff all over the world! Shock!

    News at 11! Ambulance personnel and hospital staff are fighting an uphill battle! patients keep coming in! Where does it end?

    Seriously, as long as you have people using any mechanism (computer/car/whatever) there will be people who break it, people who benefit from breaking it and people who try their utmost to KEEP it from breaking.

    I'm *really* looking forward to the followup article which will tell us all how to "fix" this. Mayhaps a rant on buffer overflows? the virtues of "safe" languages? sane input validation? sigh.

  14. This makes no sense by Mr_Tulip · · Score: 5, Insightful
    As someone who is responsible in part for network security where I work, I would disagree that we are not doing 'enough'.

    The sad reality is that information security is rather hard to achieve in an imperfect environment and without unlimited resources.

    To make a bad analogy, it is hard to physically protect your client/employer if they insist on partaking in high-risk pursuits, and the environmaent is harsh and dangerous. Email-header spoofing, bot-nets, vulnerabilities in 3rd part software - these are not under the control of the admin, at least not if you are committed to the Microsoft platform.

    The same could be said that a doctor cannot be held responsible for their patients health, if their patient is a chain-smoking, alcoholic base-jumper who rides his a monocycle down the freeway at 100 km/h.

  15. Is it really that hard? by Phemur · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I'm honestly not trying to flame or be sarcastic; I truly don't understand the issue from a user's point of view. My computers have been infected once by spyware in the last 10 years. No viruses, no rootkits, no malware nothing. Since I'm not an information security expert, I don't have l33t skills to help me stay secure, so why have I not been affected?

    Seriously, I'm asking. :-)

    Here's what my wife and have been doing. We both have computers, and we use it for very different things. Mine is games, programming, internet, and my wife's is for CAD, photoshop, internet.

    They're both pretty much setup the same, other than the OS. My wife's runs Windows 2000 and mine runs XP. Both are connected to the Internet via a Linksys wired router. Both run Firefox only as the web browser. The Windows 2000 box runs ZoneAlarm as the firewall, and mine runs Windows firewall. We both use GMail as our email tool.

    Other than that, there isn't much security software installed. I don't even have an anti-virus.

    I am pretty diligent at applying patches however. Firefox and ZoneAlarm both notify me when a patch is available, so I apply them when they popup. I run Windows update weekly. I also have Adaware and Spybot Search and Destroy that I run weekly as well. Other than the usual ad cookie (Double-Click, etc), they've yet to discover something.

    The only problem I've had with machines is with a bit of spyware that got installed. It was one of my wife's first online experiences, and she clicked on something she shouldn't have, AND she was running IE. I ended up reinstalling the OS, and after a very short Firefox tutorial, it was the end of spyware on her computer.

    (As an amusing side effect, she's now become quite the advocate for secure online habits and for Firefox. Most of her family and friends are all Firefox users now. Can we get a free T-Shirt :-) ).

    So what's the problem? Is it bad habits, or is it really that bad out there?

    Phemur

    1. Re:Is it really that hard? by mikehilly · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I do a lot of side work helping people with computer both in a home and office arena....

      You and your wife spent some time preparing and getting some type of defense up AND maintaining it. The great majority of people I deal with think that they can install Windows update once and they will be good. Or my favorite, "I have XP (windows) so I don't know what could have gone wrong." People click where they shouldn't click, go where they shouldn't go and do things without thinking.

      The only good analogy to help people understand the importance of security updates is vaccines for children. They may have to go back periodically to the Doctor to make sure all their shots are up to date. And if you think of the web as a disease ridden place, then it would make sense to wear some type of protection when you muck through it.

      You hit the nail on the head here. Three things are needed for a mostly safe computer experience:

      1: Some basic user education (could be the hardest one)

      2: Tools like Firefox, AdAware, Windows update, Firewall. Get em, use em.

      3: UPDATES!!! what good is a vaccine if it is out of date? Get regular updates for Windows, Firefox, and other tools.

      Most people are clueless when it comes to all three.

    2. Re:Is it really that hard? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Don't have kids, do you?

      Most security problems do not enter the company through the company firewall/mail gateway. They are *carried* into the building on employees (surprisingly often: managers) laptops. Laptops that are used at home for the kids to play with, browse the web or whatever. Or for the own employees entertainment.

      I don't have kids but a while ago I had a friend visit me, together with her 12-year old daughter. We kinda lost track of her whereabouts and found her behind my company laptop (in my study) on MSN or something like that. I run Linux and was logged in as myself, not as root, so the damage that she could have done to the OS was minor, but she got told off anyway. She now knows next time she'll have to ask and she's got her own account now on my private desktop. But how many people will happily let their or other peoples kids use a company laptop while being logged in as Administrator?

      Another poster suggested that all laptops should be on a separate network, and I presume he also meant that this network should be firewalled off from the rest of the company network in such a fashion that only the standard applications/protocols are allowed. (Better yet: firewall each laptop off from the other laptops.) Unfortunately, in large companies with a mixed desktop/laptop environment, this is incredibly difficult to achieve.

  16. because I.T. Security Pro = scapegoat by ManyLostPackets · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I've specifically decided not to go for any security certs because of hoo-haw attitudes demonstrated in articles like this. As a regular sys-admin, no one listens to my recommendations in the first place, why ratchet up the accountability by being a certified scapegoat?

    This article is a riot act equivalent to calling out doctors to take accountability for people who run with scissors.

  17. Ignorance Is Bliss? by LanMan04 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you don't have any anti-virus software installed, or at least a scanner, how would you know whether your computer is infected or not? If your machine belongs to a bot net, you probably don't know about it.

    To put it another way: Just because you have no symptoms doesn't mean you don't have cancer.

    Is this little traffic light on your router blinking 24/7? :)

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  18. How about if they refuse to "do as they're told"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Especially when they're senior management types? You can bitch all you want to anybody you can find who'll listen to you but at the end of the day most companies place senior management and they're desires ahead of those of the IT department: if Company Director X declines to follow IT dept guidlines on security procedures, there is nothing IT can do to him and his activities which won't result in the IT guys being fired.

    So some Top Dog asshat opens a gaping hole into the company's system and there's not a damn thing IT can realistically do about it, bacause in most cases they are too far down the pecking order to get their way, but will still be blamed for the breaches and disasters that follow anyway.

  19. Shrinkage is inevitable by Maximum+Prophet · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What many computer professionals don't realize is that a certain amount of loss due to crime is inevitable at any medium to large business. Stores like Walmart and Target have huge "shrinkage" problems, many times due to the employees themselves. Banks are constantly the victim of their own people all the way up to the VP level. Because of this, businesses are forced to make the calculation about how much security will save, vs. how much will be lost due to crime. If you want Military level security, you can buy it, but even the Military has had to deal with stolen information.

    The trick is getting a better crystal ball and figuring out how much a breakin will cost. Since the IT people often can't properly predetermine the cost of normal projects, predicting the cost of a hypothetical crime will be less acurate than predicting the weather. Perhaps instututes like SANS could put dollar number formulas on each threat type. Even though the formulas would require too many assumptions to be accurate to us, management types could plug in what they think and have the OMG moment w.r.t. security or lack thereof.

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  20. The elephant in the room by stinky+wizzleteats · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you ask a building design engineer to tell you the most important part of a building, they'll say the foundation. If you ask a historian to tell you the most important part of the U.S. government, they'll say the Constitution. Aircraft - airframe. Car - chassis. And so on.

    When you build anything, you make certain fundamental underlying decisions that affect how the rest of the system works - forever. If something is fundamentally broken about any of these core decisions, the structure will be irreparably and irrecoverably broken. It is universally understood that you can't really fix a building with a flawed foundation or a ship with a broken keel. If those parts aren't right, nothing else matters.

    In the 1990s, the world decided to base virtually all computer systems upon an operating system designed by Microsoft. Systems were changing radically over the span of months. Millions of dollars in computer investment could be rendered completely useless if the computer world changed direction. The panic led to sort of a terrified groupthink - we had to make sure we were on the garden path to computer goodness as soon as possible. We didn't choose Microsoft because it was better, or because it was secure, but because in 1992, it looked like the only thing that would work. Now, in 2006, we know (as will be attested by the numerous Microsoft astroturfers who will undoubtedly respond to this posting) that you really can use any operating system to get the job done. The fear of total obsolescence has turned out to be unfounded. We had more of a choice in 1992 than we really thought.

    The question is not whether or not we made the right choice. It is rather how far the fragments of the ship have to sink before we decide to abandon it. How much of the building has to collapse before we evacuate it? How many wheels have to fall off of the car before we pull over and call for a tow truck? The thing we most feared back in the 90s - total system failure for making the wrong crucial underlying choices, is happening every single day. When will we wake up and respond accordingly?

  21. The real problem... by bingbong · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It is all too easy to point the finger. The 'vulnerabilities' listed are in fact many tiered and go back to the founding of the 'internet.'

    It is affected by all the layers of the 'net

    Transport:

    Remember that the net was designed to be an alternate method of communication for the US Defense Dept in the event of a nuclear conflict. This means it was designed with the (then quite valid) assumption that all those connected were 'trusted' as it was an entirely closed system.

    OS Architecture:

    Consider that the number one (in terms of number of users) OS company didn't consider security as part of their OS architecture until their 2000 release. Even then it was limited by the 'need' for backwards compabitility with previous systems.

    Application Code:

    Ever notice that the SDLC doesn't have any security concepts as part of it? While there are now methodologies (such as CLASP) that help introduce security into the dev process, we still have a culture that is blissfully uninterested in security. A lot of developers have no idea what race conditions, overflows are - much less how to prevent their occurance.

    Management Layer:

    Product managers only care about getting something 'shippable' out the door by their magical ship date. Bugs and such can be fixed 'later.' Most suits only started caring about security (other than as a marketing tool) when their firms started getting slammed in the mainstream media and it started to affect the value of their stock options.

    End users: While we absolutely have to have pity for grandma who just bought her new computer, somehow people shut their brains down when they get infront of the monitor. If someone walked up to you in the street and said 'hey - give me your bank account information so i can wire you some money from my country and you get to keep some' they would call the police. But when it's in an email...

    Media: The media has had some good benefits in terms of making security an issue, but they are also good at causing the management teams to focus their energies on the wrong problems. Remember a few years back when the DDoD attacks started happening? the news reported that the big content providers were getting hammered. The real story at the time was the botnet that launched the attack. Botnets are in the media now - but a couple years too late.

    Basically there is no one person or group to blame. The entire system is fundamentally flawed on all the levels, and the results are cummulative.

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    "Omnis tuus capsa sunt inesse nos"
  22. Errare humanum est. by abb3w · · Score: 2, Informative
    A response to that sort of ignorant mentality is Yes, Sure, No problem, I just need you to send me a memo resolving me of an internal and external legal action and contractual reasonability I have when corporate information IS lost or maliciously changed.
    You may need to first draft a memo, spelling out the potential security consequences you anticipate, and insist that the boss provide a responding memo that specifically lists them, states that he has considered them, and that you are completely absolved of internal and external responsibility for any of the consequences. If you get one in response, be sure to forward a "file copy" to the company's legal department (which may result in a panicky highest-level countermanding order), and keep a personal copy off-site in the file with your copy of your employment agreements and NDA. (You do have such a file, right?) If your company has an internal audit department that handles security audits, forwarding a copy of it in their direction may also generate abrupt entertaining activity.

    More troublesome is if a problem happens later, and although you are not held responsible (having sensibly covered your ass beforehand as above), you're told to "cover it up". If your company has an omsbudsman, a rapid visit is in order; otherwise, lawyer up and find a new job... fast.

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    //Information does not want to be free; it wants to breed.
  23. Social Networking / Security by lon3st4r · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Most security breaches happen because of social networking "hacks".

    I got a call from "citibank" the other day on my office phone. They said they have a pretty good offer to give me and went ahead and gave me a fantastic offer. Then they asked me my full name (ahem!). And then they asked some more details (innocuous ones) until finally they asked my credit card number. That's exactly when I hung up. I know people who would happily give out this information without even realising what's happening!

    There are also instances of people being asked to fill up some forms with ask too many personal details, and I have seriously wondered - "what if this falls in the wrong hands".. they could use that info to break open *most* passwords to my mail and other internet accounts.

    Infact my Manhattan card account personnel only asks for my name, address and telephone number for verification! Jesus!

    So my question is, that if somebody does a security breach via social networking; how is it that "information security" has failed?