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Women Get Lots of Info From Male Faces

dtjohnson writes "Researchers at UC Santa Barbara have found that women have a remarkable ability to assess a man's testosterone levels and his interest in fathering children by looking at his facial features. Sixty-nine percent of the women were able to correctly judge a man's interest in having children merely by looking at cues on photograph's of his facial features. Saliva samples were also taken from each man in the study and tested for testosterone with a $2,000-a-pop test. The women in the study were able to correctly identify the men with the highest testosterone levels just by looking at their photographs. Of course, the study did not look at what men were able to tell about women by looking at photographs of their female body parts."

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  1. If this was true ... by subStance · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ... then why are we so often told the female initiated divorce rate is so high (over 50% when I heard last. sorry no sources). If they were *that* good at picking spouses, then you'd think that you'd see more guys initiating divorces than women, right ?

    Am I missing something ? (and please spare the "women don't know what they want" comments ... more than a little harsh in my view).

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    1. Re:If this was true ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      How about if you look at the statistics in a diffrent manner. Women have, at this time, a level of independance and earning potential that they haven't had in the past. Divorce rates are predicted by a combuination of the GINI (an indicator of the distrabution of income), women's employment, and GDP/per capita and finally the differance for what a man earns for a job and what a women earns for the same job. (Source: my own calculation in graduate level Econometrics) Perhaps, women are getting all they "need" from a mariage, and men haven't been socially reprogramed yet to give women what they want out of marriage.

      This impact of women's economic position is further increased by our pratices of paying child support and splitting all of the marriage assets equally.

      If you think divorce is a bad thing, out law child support, and make a man keep all the marriage assest. In, 20 years you will all but wipe it out.

      If you think divorce is a good thing, increase women's payrates and give them more preferantal treatment in divorce proceedings.

      With this anaylasis you don't show a negative change women's ability to pick mates, you just show a change in what women's wants are.

      [On that note, I'm tieing the not in December. Wish me, luck.]
      -lemur

    2. Re:If this was true ... by Guppy06 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      TFA mentions that women are attracted to different features (testosterone or fatherlyness) depending on where they are in their reproductive cycle. The divorce rate can easily be explained by either women deciding to marry their favorite fuck in the hopes that he will or can be changed when needed, or by women marrying the paternal types and missing their single sex life.

  2. Re:Small sample size? by mano_k · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Well, it's sad that this seems to be quite often the problem with psychological and sociological research. The researchers present groundbreaking results about the human nature and when you look at their methods you find the results are based one nothing more than random results from a much to small sample...

    The good old Cargo Cult Science

  3. Re:sensationalisation sucks by rbochan · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The summary is indeed ridiculous.

    "Of course, the study did not look at what men were able to tell about women by looking at photographs of their female body parts."

    Of course they didn't, nay, COULDN'T look into that aspect. It would have to take into account the vast amounts of physical alterations that women have done to them these days, be it botox, a ton of makeup, boob-jobs, tramp stamps, nose jobs, etc. In that regard, it would be pretty difficult, if not impossible, to tell anything about one's "genes" from a photograph. While vastly more prevelent in females, it's working its weay into males as well.
    When I was a teenager, an attractive friend of mine had herself a nose-job at age 16... it was a major event back then, but that seems like nothing these days.
    A buddy of mine, age 36, just had liposuction to remove his "spare-tire", it was outpatient surgury. Imagine that... a human body being invaded by foreign objects and literally pounds of material being removed... and it's considered so comon that it's outpatient surgery.

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  4. Re:Stupid and Fairly Insulting by Guppy06 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "This study wasn't looking at which men women would really date - it looked at their reaction to pictures. Whooptefreakingdo."

    Getting your foot into the door has nothing to do with dating?

    "Perhaps I'm spoiled by having a lot of intelligent female friends, but we're looking for someone to spend time with, not just someone to make a baby with."

    TFA says you're actually looking for both, someone "to spend time with" but then somebody else to make a baby with on the side. None of your friends have ever done anything that can be described as this?

    Even if not, I have my own anecdotal evidence to counter yours, a friend whose fiance cheated on him and got pregnant; he found out and yet she still managed to convince him to go through with the wedding.

    Of course, I also know another guy who went into a very bad marriage solely because of cleavage as well.

  5. Re:Translation by budgenator · · Score: 2, Interesting

    There was a study pointed to by /. conducted in England that showed that a woman's first and last child was significantly less likely to be her husband's and that the lower her socio-economic class was the more likely as well, rate as high as 30% were found. The biological fathers were more likely to be of higher class than the husband.

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