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SUSE 10.1 Released

SolusSD writes "SUSE 10.1 was released today in both its fully open source version and its retail version. You can read up on changes with the version notes, and as always torrents are available."

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  1. damn by SolusSD · · Score: 3, Informative

    i posted a link to the torrent in hopes more people would start downloading it and speed up my download, but they (Zonk!!!) took it out of my story summary. :(

    1. Re:damn by HoosierPeschke · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Doesn't matter, most of us at work can't start until we go home anyway, it'll be prime tonight.

      Oh yeah...

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  2. link to i386 torrent by SolusSD · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here's the torrent for all 5 CDs (no DVD release, yet).
    This release includes xgl support for KDE and gnome as well as several other nifty features!

    1. Re:link to i386 torrent by speculatrix · · Score: 2, Informative

      there's a makedvd program to build a DVD iso from the CD images. I guess this is easier to manage than having two lots of images to download. It's pretty trivial to do, simply put the iso into a directory and run the script - just be sure to have sufficient disk space for the CD ISOs, the intermediate temp files and the final ISO!
      download here.

  3. Good, but.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    ..does it run Linux?

  4. Re:It's too bad by gameforge · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What's missing from the old SuSE?

    I put SuSE on my laptop a while back; you can go from having a blank hard drive and install SuSE without rebooting once. You install it, and when you're done, you log in and start using it.

    It's easier to install than Windows, and if you're a business and you purchase SuSE, you get more for your money in every way...

    But, I didn't use SuSE until it was owned by Novell, so... what's missing?

  5. Upgrading an existing system by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Is there a way to update an existing OpenSUSE 10.0 system via the internet without download the entire set of cds and burning them to physical media?

    1. Re:Upgrading an existing system by richardablitt · · Score: 3, Informative

      You should be able to just download the netinst CD and use that to upgrade (remember to make a note of the server's IP address first (: ). Alternatively, you can change your sources in Yast to SL-10.1 from SL-10.0-OSS and use the system update thing. A clean install is generally safest if practical, though.

  6. SUSE Xgl versus Dapper's implementation? by fak3r · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I've been using Dapper Drake at home -- any comments as to how far along SUSE is with their Xgl implementation versus what we're seeing day to day in Ubuntu? (those 'bouncy' windows are just so cool to move! I can't stop!) ;) ... seriously though, they're cool!

    I would expect SUSE would have a better Beagle install though, and that'd be fun to have.

  7. xgl is big by brother+bloat · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Xgl/Compiz may be key to the widespread adoption of this release. Because Ubuntu's soon-to-be-out next realease (i.e. Dapper Drake) does not include Xgl by default (although it is available via synaptic), I wonder if people will start gravitating toward Suse in search of nifty eye-candy (especially seeing as SuSe is currently hot on the heals of Ubuntu according to http://www.distrowatch.com/'s counter (to the extent that it can be trusted)...

    Current operating systems (OSX, Windows, Linux) seem to be focusing on (debatably useful) eye-candy. OSX has included some pretty sweet stuff for a while, and one of the main focus points for Windows Vista seems to be the new Aero UI. Xgl is the open source community's answer to all this (of course, Xgl ended up beating Aero to the punch).

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  8. Re:It's too bad by Raphael · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I don't think that Novell is to blame for that. On the contrary, I think that Novell has put SuSE back on the right track.

    I have been using SuSE since version 4. Yes, this is a long time ago. I have tried every single version since then. This makes a nice pile of boxes.

    SuSE was by far my favorite distro until about version 8.1. Then it started getting bad (broken package dependencies, too much reliance on the graphical version of YaST2 while keyboard support was half-broken in the command-line version, settings and directory hierarchies incompatible with other distros, etc.). From my point of view, versions 8.x, 9.x and 10.0 sucked compared to other distributions available at that time. Now they are becoming good again with version 10.1.

    I had really lost my faith in SuSE after several bad experiences with versions 8.x and 9.x. Version 10.0 was getting better but still a bit rough around the edges. Version 10.1 is much better. I hope that version 11 will be even better and will be able to compete with other distributions such as Ubuntu in terms of polish, features and user experience. (and before you ask: no, Ubuntu is not my favorite distro although I recommend it to most people)

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  9. Re:Bittorrent by irc.goatse.cx+troll · · Score: 2, Informative

    The order is specified by the client, its not random but its not sequential.

    Granted, I'd rather not have a sudden influx of 1000 peers, as thats 1000 more full copies that need to go around and will hurt your dl speed more than it will help.

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  10. Yes, actually! by Kelson · · Score: 2, Informative

    SuSE includes Xen virtualization, which enables you to run guest operating systems on a host operating system. You can run any OS with Xen support as a guest -- even another instance of SuSE.

    So yes, SuSE will run Linux!

  11. slow downloading by nicolastheadept · · Score: 2, Funny

    It's so busy that the .torrent file itself is downloading at 1.0KB on my 2meg connection!

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  12. Re:Bittorrent by swillden · · Score: 3, Informative

    Assuming the pieces download sequentially, they would all have pieces that you already have

    They don't download sequentially. Each torrent client chooses what parts to request, but the proper behavior (and the one implemented by most all clients) is to request "least available first". They take a look at all of the peers and seeds out there and pick the block that has the fewest existing copies, and request that one. In practice, of course, there isn't just one least-available block, so they randomly select from the set of least-available. I think (but am not sure) that they may also have a bias in favor of peers that aren't too busy.

    But you're right that getting more to join in the swarm won't speed up the downloads of those already in the swarm. As the swarm grows, the total bandwidth increases, but it does so in proportion to the numbe of peers. If all of those peers are downloading, then the increase bandwidth just gets divided among the increased peers. Theoretically, this shouldn't reduce your incoming data rate, but in practice there is some inefficiency, so it does. As some of the peers finish, though, they stop consuming so the bandwidth per remaining downloader goes up.

    That all assumes everyone has roughly equal pipes, which is true, on average. Mostly, everyone has fast download and slow upload speeds. When some peers with fast symmetric connections hop on, then your actual download speed will see a boost because they're increasing the average available bandwidth. So if you can get a bunch of peers with those connections to join in, you should do it. Getting a bunch more that have the same average upstream speed won't help, though.

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  13. They say the DVD iso will be out in a week by jfern · · Score: 2, Informative

    I guess I'll be using Suse 10.0 until then. I tried several different Linuxes, and most of them had major problems. Suse 10.0 installed fine, and worked immediately with my Internet card. I downloaded better Nvidia drivers, and had to find some Realtek drivers to get my sound working, but it seemed to have gotten everything else working. I suggest installing MPlayer for multi-media stuff.

  14. Re:KDE to Gnome...? by richlv · · Score: 2, Insightful

    well, it started with one interesting and easily misunderstood press release from novell.
    then there are "ximian monkeys", who are gnome zealots to the point where they ride the web and add anonymous posts, announcing that kde is dead :)

    personally i know a whole bunch of kde suse users, but i don't know a single suse-gnome user. though i've seen some lurking on irc, but they are not so awfully full of zealotry, so it is ok ;)

    i just hope that ximian heritage doesn't ruin a good distro. if kde will be neglected in suse, i'll be looking for alternatives the next day.

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