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FreeBSD Vows to Compete with Desktop Linux
AlanS2002 writes "FreeBSD developer Scott Long is being reported as saying that FreeBSD is quickly approaching feature parity with Linux. Apparently this is being achieved through efforts to more tightly integrate GNOME with FreeBSD, with one of the priorities being to 'GNOME's hardware abstraction layer--which handles hardware-specific code--working with FreeBSD'."
Wow, did they compete and lose already since the last time I read this on slashdot (like a day ago)?
goodness, the Da Vinci Code is not as heretical to the catholic church as telling a linux fanbase that BSD kicks ass on their deity
difference being there is documented proof for the latter....
asbestos suit on. flame away kiddies
He is exactly right! Consistently, users choose KDE but, just as consistently, distro producers are shunning KDE for Gnome in contrast to their user's wishes. Look at Red Hat, SuSE, Ubuntu, and now FreeBSD. They all struggle to integrate and develop an inferior desktop environment that the vast majority of the users don't want to use. The people want KDE so, why not give it to them?
Or is it simply that KDE doesn't require any additional development in order to integrate with FreeBSD?
"The "vow to compete" is a useless and sensationalist addition by the author, so let's keep it civil and avoid flame wars."
You're new here, aren't you?
I'll give you an example of just how poor their hardware config tools are. My system is 5 years old, includes a Sound Blaster PCI16 audio card, NIC uses the Tulip Driver, Via Chipset and under freebsd it's impossible to configure the sound card withouth rebuilding a kernel? and I've never succeeded in even getting started on rebuilding the kernel. Another issue is why in hell don't they use DMA access to drives as yet? All 4 drives in my system all offer DMA access and they can't bother to run hdparm automagically and enable that feature? That's idiotic as it provides such a performance boost to the system.
What the need to do is enable audio support in the kernel and use Alsa instead of reinventing the wheel as they're trying to do and yes I do know that the entire project derived from a server environment where sound wasn't a concern. At least they did the right thing and used Xfree so the video support is available to those who need it.
Now if they'd spend some time developing the needed hardware configuration tools and ease the audio/video/misc hardware issue by taking it out of their kernel and using existing modular projects "Use the Modules Luke", maybe they'd finally get somewhere.
Windows eats Linux and poops FreeBSD
Of course it is :) otherwise they have nothing desktop once they realize how miserable GNOME sucks :) It's actually a good idea to help them port GNOME, so even FreeBSD people know how much it sucks.
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BSD is dying
getting most of the development effort in useless eye-candy
Mac os x is the best desktop operative system in the world. It's also the one who has more eyecandy than any other operative system. You don't like those "useless" drop shadows and transparencies? Well, here comes a newflash for you: Max os x added them first than anyone else.
This will never happen until BSD gets rid of that "magic number" shit from the freaking dark ages!
Solaris fixed this in 2.5, that was over 10 years ago, where the fuck is BSD in this?
Can't BSD get a freaking clue and fix the disk partitioning nightmare? I mean it doesn't take 10 freaking years
to add this technology that is now ancient, does it?
And what about standard device numbering? I mean, my god, it isn't that freaking hard is it?
Hell Solaris had this back before 2.4, even 2.2 or 2.1 or earlier!
and linux has had it since day one! I mean WTF!!!???
is it really that hard for you morons to make it "eth0, eth1, eth2, hda, hdb, sda, sdb, etc etc" ???
everything in that post is the truth.
BSD still uses "magic numbers"
it still has the 10 year old partition handler.
and it still has non-standard device numbering.
So now the TRUTH is considered trolling?? WTF?
The "vow to compete" is a useless and sensationalist addition by the author, so let's keep it civil and avoid flame wars.
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The is The Internet.
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FreeBSD, NetBSD, Linux guys are idiots... so is Steve @ Microsoft... only Steve @ Apple gets it and then only by accident. Nobody cares about a fancy GUI or even legacy apps... to re-phrase Steve @ MS... it's DRIVERS, DRIVERS, DRIVERS, DRIVERS! If it won't work with your hardware, you won't use it. The entire open source community should switch gears and focus on nothing but DRIVERS for a whole year... then Jan 1st, Microsoft would shut it's doors. Done.
KDE has too many buttons, sidebars, and other broken interfaces that simply don't belong. Best to stick with Gnome where they have more chance of mainstream appeal.
"Sufferin' succotash."
Does OpenBSD even support SMP systems yet? Do any BSDs run on s/390?
Is there any support for Oracle on any BSD?
Of course not.
FreeBSD is not an Enterprise OS like Solaris, HPUX, Linux, AIX, or Windows.
FreeBSD is a gay little project for hobbyists and low-level tech support dweebs. Sure, you can run your little Apache webserver, or DNS for your handful of lame-o vanity domains, but it's not a real OS because it can't do real work or run on enterprise class hardware.
FreeBSD has no place in a real data center.
One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered *BSD community when IDC confirmed that *BSD market share has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.
You don't need to be the Amazing Kreskin to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood.
FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time FreeBSD developers Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD is dying.
Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.
Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.
All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS dilettante dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.
Fact: FreeBSD is dying