Couple of questions
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caluml
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· Score: 3, Interesting
Slightly off topic, but probably the best place to ask:
Is anyone having a problem with recent versions where the URI autocomplete sometimes doesn't work, even if it's an address you often go to (e.g. google.com).
Or when you click on a tab, it doesn't "release" fast enough, and start moving the tab around?
Re:Couple of questions
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ezdude
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· Score: 2, Interesting
I have some similar problems, but not exactly those. I often find that when I click on a previously visited link from the URL drop-down list, it doesn't go to that site. Also, one thing that annoys the heck out of me is that when I try to close PDF's, which are in separate tabs, it takes forever. I don't know if this is a Firefox issue or Adobe, but it seems worse in more recent versions of Firefox.
The big question is...
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Anonymous Coward
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..will 2.0 be released before 1.5 is marked stable for x86 in portage? Seriously, how's SVG support comming along? Last I checked they couldn't add SVG to the accept header because of issues with the rendering backends.
Re:Browser Speed
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JanneM
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· Score: 1, Interesting
For many users, speed is the most important aspect of a browser.
For most users, speed is a minor issue as long as it's perceived to be fast enough. And response times from the distant website (not infrequently in the second+ range) typically swamps local things like redraw speed.
So no, unless you have the hots for Opera and need a way to motivate your obsession, speed is not a major issue today.
-- Trust the Computer. The Computer is your friend.
Re:Close button at same tab
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Tx
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Because one man's common sense is another man's stupidity, and they want to avoid having the million configuration options necessary to cater for everybodys views. Having some people need a handful of extensions to tweak the things that bother them, while only having a small number of core configuration options is actually a much neater solution IMHO.
Personally I've been using the TabX extension to get a close button on my tabs since I started using Firefox, having the close button attached to the thing it closes seems like common sense to me;), so I won't even notice that change.
-- Oh no... it's the future.
Firefox with extensions
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spudnic
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· Score: 4, Interesting
Just about everything in the review is available now, and has been for quite awhile, through extensions?
It seems that future development of firefox should be on the core application and let the extension developers handle the pretty stuff.
--
load "linux",8,1
Re:Close button at same tab
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Anonymous Coward
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"Having some people need a handful of extensions to tweak the things that bother them, while only having a small number of core configuration options is actually a much neater solution IMHO."
Pardon, but are you fstupid? The number of people who hate the completely redundant, spacewasting, cluttering and annoying usage of close buttons on every tab are hardly counted in the "some" people category. Try "lots" instead. I bet you are one of those gnome-heads, since this smacks of the "You-will-use-the-spatial-view-and-we-are-teh-1337 -devs-so-shut-up" attitude.
Thank God you can disable that crap in opera.. I guess that makes it bloated from your pov, right?
Re:Dumbed down again
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Kroc
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"I don't care that I'll get modded down for criticizing Firefox." No, you're trolling. Criticizing would mean you had some semblence of an idea about what you were talking about, which you clearly do not.
"Too bad neither the fanboys nor the development team realizes this" Yes they do. Firefox is being simplified in order to appeal to the greater market. You know, the ones who make up 85% of the market and matter alot more than you do. IE is a simple browser, it's one of its successes, and Firefox aims to be something that IE users can feel comfortable switching too without being bombarded with anal retentive geek features. Firefox can be customized and as geeky and powerful as you want it to be with extensions, so how simple it is is up to you.
Since version 1.5 it hardly leaks at all. Firefox has high memory requirements, complain about that if you must but stop spinning your tired, ignorant, uniformed, arrogant bullshit. K, thnx.
Firefox has numerous serious focus problems that continue to be ignored.. I hope they fix them in version 2 but I don't hold out much hope given that they've been ignoring them for years. It seems the devs are mouse-only users. A lot of the problems occur when keystrokes are used to open windows, close windows, etc.
Firefox steals focus constantly under enlightenment. Older versions of Firefox (0.8) do not have the problem.
Re:Browser Speed
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Killshot
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· Score: 2, Interesting
The difference is often more than half a second, for a while the difference could be as much as 10 minutes on orbitz.com. I'm not sure if it was something fixed in a recent firefox update or if orbitz did something to their code.
XUL in Python?
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Dausha
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· Score: 2, Interesting
So, does the 2.0 series allow XUL coding in Python instead of Javascript. I have heard about this for some time. However, I've not heard what 'live' Firefox version would start offering this sweet gem.
-- What those who want activist courts fear is rule by the people.
so I'll just keep asking...and getting no answer
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Tumbleweed
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· Score: 4, Interesting
Multi-threaded UI yet? Anybody? Anybody?
Bueller?
The longer this is put off, the harder I suspect it's going to be to put it, due to a more complicated codebase.
Lay the foundation first, folks, PLEASE.
Re:Close button at same tab
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glens
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Ha! Ha!
Just wait until all those people who clamored for the feature actually get a chance to try it. I predict there will be an uproar to either revert or at least provide a prominent optional choice.
Either that or yet more bloat will be required to immediately recall recently-closed tabs.
Konqueror has been an absolute dream for so long now that Firefox isn't even on my radar.
You are looking for RetroFind
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MarkByers
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· Score: 2, Interesting
If Firefox is using 700 MB of RAM, it's almost certainly not a cache that's causing the memory use. You can check how much RAM the memory cache is uing by going to about:cache. You can make sure the bfcache is using only a little memory by visiting eight simple pages, one after the other.
I would suspect Google Toolbar, which many Firefox users report leaks memory.
-- What a fool believes, he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.
Re:I just went trhough the changelog...
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xigxag
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Too bad there's no way to mod a post as "potentially life changing." I've been putting off trying out Opera since before it went free. Your post made me decide to give it another try, and so far (admittedly only an hour or so of heavy surfing) I love it. I was able to get it to connect to my banking site. It does phpbb better than FF. My machine seems about 50% faster, and memory use is something like 200 megs lower than my FF installation.
Most importantly, I didn't have to install any extensions to get it to work acceptably.
If there's one functionality that should be built into FF 2.0, there should be a brainless way to export and import your extensions, forms, passwords and bookmarks in one "FF2go" zipped bundle so that when you reinstall it on another computer, you can get started right away with your old configuration.
-- There are two kinds of people: 1) those who start arrays with one and 1) those who start them with zero.
Re:Browser Speed
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fdicostanzo
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· Score: 2, Interesting
>> You may be interested to note the correct spelling of the....
I was in agreement with you til about here. When you start commenting on silly grammer and spelling it looks to me that your grasping desperately.
Not everyone speaks English as a first language and, IMO, its the ideas that are more important. Stick with commenting on those.
Frank
-- Synergies are basically awesome, and they're even better when you leverage them. -PA
Re:Mod Parent Up
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dcam
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I'll add one:
8. Bookmark sorting. Mozilla from about 3 years ago (or more!) used to do this perfectly. I'd like to sort bookmarks by name, with all the folders at the top. Firefox doesn't support this. The only way to do this aside from manually editing the bookmarks file is to import them into Mozilla, sort them and export to Firefox.
-- meh
Re:Mod Parent Up
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Anonymous Coward
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· Score: 1, Interesting
The parent post contains just under 3K of text. Remembering that the figures he's giving are in KB (as that's what Task Manager shows) Firefox apparently allocated 3MB to store 3KB of text.
While that wouldn't surprise me given how well Firefox is written (I've seen better code from first year CS students), it's still a little on the fucking insane side.
Re:Browser Speed
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wheany
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· Score: 2, Interesting
There is Adblock in latest Operas. Right-click on the page and select "block content".
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Slightly off topic, but probably the best place to ask:
Is anyone having a problem with recent versions where the URI autocomplete sometimes doesn't work, even if it's an address you often go to (e.g. google.com).
Or when you click on a tab, it doesn't "release" fast enough, and start moving the tab around?
Still the best browser though.
Get your own free personal location tracker
..will 2.0 be released before 1.5 is marked stable for x86 in portage? Seriously, how's SVG support comming along? Last I checked they couldn't add SVG to the accept header because of issues with the rendering backends.
For many users, speed is the most important aspect of a browser.
For most users, speed is a minor issue as long as it's perceived to be fast enough. And response times from the distant website (not infrequently in the second+ range) typically swamps local things like redraw speed.
So no, unless you have the hots for Opera and need a way to motivate your obsession, speed is not a major issue today.
Trust the Computer. The Computer is your friend.
Because one man's common sense is another man's stupidity, and they want to avoid having the million configuration options necessary to cater for everybodys views. Having some people need a handful of extensions to tweak the things that bother them, while only having a small number of core configuration options is actually a much neater solution IMHO.
;), so I won't even notice that change.
Personally I've been using the TabX extension to get a close button on my tabs since I started using Firefox, having the close button attached to the thing it closes seems like common sense to me
Oh no... it's the future.
Just about everything in the review is available now, and has been for quite awhile, through extensions?
It seems that future development of firefox should be on the core application and let the extension developers handle the pretty stuff.
load "linux",8,1
"Having some people need a handful of extensions to tweak the things that bother them, while only having a small number of core configuration options is actually a much neater solution IMHO."
7 -devs-so-shut-up" attitude.
Pardon, but are you fstupid? The number of people who hate the completely redundant, spacewasting, cluttering and annoying usage of close buttons on every tab are hardly counted in the "some" people category. Try "lots" instead. I bet you are one of those gnome-heads, since this smacks of the "You-will-use-the-spatial-view-and-we-are-teh-133
Thank God you can disable that crap in opera.. I guess that makes it bloated from your pov, right?
"I don't care that I'll get modded down for criticizing Firefox."
No, you're trolling. Criticizing would mean you had some semblence of an idea about what you were talking about, which you clearly do not.
"Too bad neither the fanboys nor the development team realizes this"
Yes they do. Firefox is being simplified in order to appeal to the greater market. You know, the ones who make up 85% of the market and matter alot more than you do. IE is a simple browser, it's one of its successes, and Firefox aims to be something that IE users can feel comfortable switching too without being bombarded with anal retentive geek features. Firefox can be customized and as geeky and powerful as you want it to be with extensions, so how simple it is is up to you.
Since version 1.5 it hardly leaks at all. Firefox has high memory requirements, complain about that if you must but stop spinning your tired, ignorant, uniformed, arrogant bullshit. K, thnx.
Firefox has numerous serious focus problems that continue to be ignored.. I hope they fix them in version 2 but I don't hold out much hope given that they've been ignoring them for years. It seems the devs are mouse-only users. A lot of the problems occur when keystrokes are used to open windows, close windows, etc.
Firefox steals focus constantly under enlightenment. Older versions of Firefox (0.8) do not have the problem.
The difference is often more than half a second, for a while the difference could be as much as 10 minutes on orbitz.com. I'm not sure if it was something fixed in a recent firefox update or if orbitz did something to their code.
So, does the 2.0 series allow XUL coding in Python instead of Javascript. I have heard about this for some time. However, I've not heard what 'live' Firefox version would start offering this sweet gem.
What those who want activist courts fear is rule by the people.
Multi-threaded UI yet? Anybody? Anybody?
Bueller?
The longer this is put off, the harder I suspect it's going to be to put it, due to a more complicated codebase.
Lay the foundation first, folks, PLEASE.
Ha! Ha!
Just wait until all those people who clamored for the feature actually get a chance to try it. I predict there will be an uproar to either revert or at least provide a prominent optional choice.
Either that or yet more bloat will be required to immediately recall recently-closed tabs.
Konqueror has been an absolute dream for so long now that Firefox isn't even on my radar.
Here it is: RetroFind.
I'll probably be modded down for this...
it gets dog slow if the list gets long
In my experience, it gets pretty damn slow after the list hits a couple of dozen items; not what I would call long by any means.
It's official. Most of you are morons.
I would suspect Google Toolbar, which many Firefox users report leaks memory.
What a fool believes, he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.
Too bad there's no way to mod a post as "potentially life changing." I've been putting off trying out Opera since before it went free. Your post made me decide to give it another try, and so far (admittedly only an hour or so of heavy surfing) I love it. I was able to get it to connect to my banking site. It does phpbb better than FF. My machine seems about 50% faster, and memory use is something like 200 megs lower than my FF installation.
Most importantly, I didn't have to install any extensions to get it to work acceptably.
If there's one functionality that should be built into FF 2.0, there should be a brainless way to export and import your extensions, forms, passwords and bookmarks in one "FF2go" zipped bundle so that when you reinstall it on another computer, you can get started right away with your old configuration.
There are two kinds of people: 1) those who start arrays with one and 1) those who start them with zero.
>> You may be interested to note the correct spelling of the....
I was in agreement with you til about here. When you start commenting on silly grammer and spelling it looks to me that your grasping desperately.
Not everyone speaks English as a first language and, IMO, its the ideas that are more important. Stick with commenting on those.
Frank
Synergies are basically awesome, and they're even better when you leverage them. -PA
I'll add one:
8. Bookmark sorting. Mozilla from about 3 years ago (or more!) used to do this perfectly. I'd like to sort bookmarks by name, with all the folders at the top. Firefox doesn't support this. The only way to do this aside from manually editing the bookmarks file is to import them into Mozilla, sort them and export to Firefox.
meh
The parent post contains just under 3K of text. Remembering that the figures he's giving are in KB (as that's what Task Manager shows) Firefox apparently allocated 3MB to store 3KB of text.
While that wouldn't surprise me given how well Firefox is written (I've seen better code from first year CS students), it's still a little on the fucking insane side.
There is Adblock in latest Operas. Right-click on the page and select "block content".