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Apple Unveils New Macbook

Several readers have written in to mention that Apple has released the new Macbook on their site. Yahoo! has details from the press release: "With prices starting at just $1,099, the MacBook lineup includes three models: a 1.83 GHz and 2.0 GHz MacBook in a newly designed, sleek white enclosure and a 2.0 GHz MacBook in a stunning new black enclosure. The new MacBook offers performance up to five times faster than the iBook and up to four times faster than the 12-inch PowerBook with a completely new system architecture including a 667 MHz front-side bus and 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM memory expandable to 2GB."

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  1. RAM by LoSLapPy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    anyone notice that now its 2x256 and not 1x512?

  2. New MacBook pretty close to the Pro in specs by tji · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This new laptop is much closer to the MacBook Pro than I expected. I thought they might only do Core Solo processors, to create more distinction between the two levels.

    I had been planning on getting the 15 or 17" Pro, but looking at the specs on these - and the price, I might go for the MacBook.

    The biggest difference I see is the display resolution.. 1280x800, like the older PowerBooks.

  3. Display Spanning by hexdcml · · Score: 3, Interesting
    On the DESIGN page, looking the image, it looks like the new MacBooks support display spanning instead of the expected 'mirroring'.

    Dual Purpose Get the big picture when you join your MacBook with either a stunning 20- or 23-inch Apple Cinema Display by way of a crystal-clear connection miniDVI port. (Requires miniDVI to DVI adapter, sold separately.)

    It looks sweet.

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  4. Glossy screen on MacBook Pro by jrau · · Score: 4, Interesting

    So, apparently, for no extra charge, you can now get a glossy screen on the MacBook Pro. Can anyone explain to me why you would want a glossy screen? It just seems like it would make the glare rediculous.

    1. Re:Glossy screen on MacBook Pro by boomerny · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I got a new Macbook today to replace an aging Pismo and I was worried about the glossy screen too. Even in the Apple store I was looking at it from every angle trying to see if the screen would be an issue. Once I got home and started using it though I found it's not a problem at all. The only time I can see any glare is if the background is black.

  5. Dell vs Apple Price Comparison by ZombieRoboNinja · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Decided I'd browse over to Dell and see how big the "Apple premium" is sitting right now.

    Dell Inspiron E1405:
    14.1" screen (1280x800)
    Core Duo 1.83
    1 GB RAM (can't get 512)
    80 GB HD
    Total cost: $1540

    MacBook:
    13.3" screen (1280x800)
    Core Duo 1.83
    512 MB RAM
    80 GB HD
    built-in Webcam
    Total cost: $1100 ...So the Apple premium now stands at -$340, close as I can figure.

    1. Re:Dell vs Apple Price Comparison by DrXym · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Hmm, let's see if we can do better: Acer TravelMate TM4202WLMi http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000E502UO/104-61 49296-7670321?v=glance&n=541966 * Affordable notebook PC with 15.4-inch LCD; 1.67 GHz Intel Core Duo T2300 with 2 MB L2 cache * 100 GB hard drive, 1 GB of RAM (2 GB max), dual-layer/multi-format DVD burner * Four USB 2.0, Type II PCMCIA slot, headphone (with SPDIF support), microphone * Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 950 (128 MB of shared RAM); tri-mode 802.11a/b/g wireless connectivity * Windows XP Professional All for $999

    2. Re:Dell vs Apple Price Comparison by lal · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I just bought this: Inspiron E1505 15.4" screen Core Duo 1.66 1 GB RAM 80 GB HDD for $996.

    3. Re:Dell vs Apple Price Comparison by Peldor · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Or if you have any competence you could configure an E1405 from Dell with...

      14.1" screen (1280x800)
      Core Duo 1.83
      512 MB RAM
      60 GB HD
      for $899

      The only way you'd get that Dell up to $1500+ is with a 4 year warranty. You can get a 7200 RPM harddrive and DVD burner and still be cheaper than the base MacBook.

      There's still an Apple premium. The software may be worth the difference, but as long as you want to spec just the hardware, that's a damn expensive webcam.

    4. Re:Dell vs Apple Price Comparison by Theaetetus · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Not really. The only comparison that's important is that the machine fits YOUR needs. That's the only thing that matters in the end.

      Hmm... MacMini - $500... Dell Dual Xeon Desktop system with 30" LCD - $6000. I guess Apples are cheaper.
      See - this is why people compare things that are as identical as possible. The more variables you change, the less apt your comparison is.

  6. Re:anytime soon by daveschroeder · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The only reason I said "anytime soon" was because I knew someone would say "well, FireWire isn't going to around *forever*". Of course it's not. All standards change, and some are supplanted by others.

    But when the iPods dropped FireWire, everyone took that as some kind of "hint" that Apple was "backing away" from FireWire, shunning the standard, and quietly putting it to sleep/death. No. That is not the case. It wasn't then, and it isn't now.

    The iPods dropped FireWire likely because of a technical/marketing/cost decision. Most iPod purchasers were (and are) Windows PC owners, almost all of whom don't have FireWire, but DO have USB, and most USB 2.0. All of Apple's machines for the last few years also had USB 2.0 (and at least have USB, since 1998). If one interface had to go for standardize chipset and sizing/cost concerns, it seems pretty clear which one it was to be.

    Of course, many people took that as a sign that Apple was getting rid of FireWire completely. There was no basis, however, to make that assumption.

    As I've said before:

    While specific features of future Macintosh computers cannot be predicted, FireWire is an critical protocol that has come to be relied upon. Some important factors to note:

    - FireWire usage across the industry is increasing, not decreasing
    - FireWire is featured on all currently shipping Intel-based Macs
    - FireWire is required for Target Disk Mode, a critical feature that many administrators and the Migration Assistant depend on; USB is not supported for these tasks
    - FireWire is increasingly used as the interface of choice on modern digital video and audio equipment
    - Since July 2005, all HD cable set top boxes are mandated by the FCC to come with a "functional IEEE-1394 [FireWire] port"
    - FireWire is the primary (and often only) transport mechanism used by all digital video (DV) and high definition digitial video (HDV) cameras and decks
    - Application software and features on every Mac, like iMovie, iDVD, and the SuperDrive (DVD±RW/CD-RW), depend on FireWire to import video into the computer via DV


    For these reasons, it makes no sense that FireWire would have been abandoned now, nor will it be in the near future. *Someday* will machines ship without FireWire? Yeah, and someday they'll ship without USB, too. These standards will die just like everything else does, eventually. Did USB "win" in the mainstream desktop peripheral connectivity war? Yes, of course it did. Long ago. Unfortunately, just because USB and FireWire appeared to compete in some common areas (like desktop storage), the perception was that they were completely competitive standards, and that's not true. Technically, FireWire and USB are a lot different. Could USB be expanded to subsume at least some of the functionality of FireWire? Could a future iteration of USB provide some of the hostless or multi-host peer capabilities of FireWire? Could a universal DV-over-USB standard be adopted? Sure, to all of them. But FireWire is here now, and is used for all of these tasks.

    Apple didn't go out of its way to keep FireWire just so the Intel transition was "less disruptive". It keep FireWire because customers need and want it, and its products and product features depend upon it. Apple isn't the only one keeping FireWire alive. It's used all over the industry. All of Apple's computing products will have it for quite some time, and there's no logical or technical reason to believe otherwise.

  7. Glossy screen? by caseih · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Apple's web site indicates this new model has a stunning glossy screen. Am I the only one that hates these new glossy screens. They reflect glare and just look bad. The screen on the MacBook Pro isn't glossy. Why does the MacBook need a glossy screen?

    1. Re:Glossy screen? by shagoth · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It looks like it's got chiclet keys. They may not be rubber ala the PC Junior but I can't see that thing being comfy to type on.

      "MacBook features a unique new keyboard design that sits flush against the bed for a sleeker, lower profile. Plus, you'll find a firmer touch when typing. That ought to make your fingers happy." That has the ominous tone of marketing to cover for a crappy keyboard. It will be interesting once people start putting hands on these machines.

  8. Re:Specs and Prices (US and UK) by DalSoth · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The MacBook is out. and by all rights it looked to be the thing to have. Right up untill I read that it has 64mb of Shared Vedio Memory. I'm not saying that there is anything overly wrong with this if all you want to do is watch DVDs or surf the net. But you can forget about doing anything that requires GPU power such as the lastest games. PC laptops have been using this system for years. and it was my hope that Apple didn't start using it. I have owned a few PC laptops with this and I've been sorry that i did. I would rather buy a 2nd hand Ibook 12" G3-500 with the 8mb ATI GPU. I'm sorry to say that this one point will stop me buying it. Sigh, and it even came in Black. I have always wanted a back laptop.

  9. Re:Not quite apples and apples by chowhound · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Good comparison, but there's one important thing to consider: Win 2000/XP is going to perform a hell of a lot better on the same hardware than OSX does. This machine is a monster of a PC unless you have some kind of special needs. This is the lowest-end OSX machine.

    That's not true, I run the latest version of OS X for PPC on my G4/400 w/1 GB RAM and for normal operations it runs just as fast as my MacBook Pro runs the Intel version of 10.4.6 using 512 MB RAM.

    My stepdaughter runs 10.3.9 on a G3/400 with 800 MB RAM with equal alacrity.

    You must remember that unlike Windows, OS X isn't bloatware. Those iBooks (er... MacBooks) will run OS X like a dream.

  10. Re:Family complete? by Golias · · Score: 5, Interesting

    You must never fly coach.

    I've got a 12" iBook, and on a typical Boeing aircraft, if the person in front of me puts their seat back, I can *just barely* have the iBook open, sitting on the front lip of the tray table.

    If my laptop screen was one inch taller, it would be pretty much impossible to use in most of the cheap seats of a plane. I would have to always arrive early and request an exit-row seat.

    That's one reason why I think the wide-screen laptops are an awesome idea. More screen real estate, less height when it's open.

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  11. Re:Black is the new black by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Upgrading the white MacBook to an 80GB drive only costs $50. What's the extra $150 for?