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Apple Sues Creative

boarder8925 writes "Apple is counter-suing Creative, claiming it has infringed 'four patents in its handheld digital players.' The suit was filed the same day that Creative filed suit against Apple. 'Creative proactively held discussions with Apple in our efforts to explore amicable solutions,' a spokesman for Creative said. 'At no time during these discussions or at any other time did Apple mention to us the patents it raised in its lawsuit.'"

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  1. More, more, more by Britz · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Please, let the patent cold war already erupt into a huge patent suing everyone vs. everyone. I know you wouldn't like to see the lawyers take a couple billions away on this, but that will be the necessary sacrifice to make everybody see how bad trivial/software patents really are.

    As soon as Sun sues Microsoft, Microsoft sues IBM and IBM sues them all I will sit back and have some popcorn (btw. do lawyers companies have stock options?).

  2. Re:Summary: Creative says "Waaaaaaaah" by CrackedButter · · Score: 5, Interesting

    When I read that Apple didn't discuss the patents Creative is infringing on, I thought why should they? Like any sane thing to do is show all the cards you're playing with.

  3. A Creative Lawsuit is as American as Apple Pie by digitaldc · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Creative needs to be more innovative and come up with products that sell like Apple's, otherwise they will just try creative lawsuits to make a profit.
    Apple apparently has very good lawyers, people that try to sue them for a piece of the pie usually lose.
    No more half-baked ideas on how to sue Apple, just get back to your core products and innovate!

    --
    He who knows best knows how little he knows. - Thomas Jefferson
  4. patent whining ..... by nblender · · Score: 5, Interesting
    The patent process is broken. But not the way I keep seeing described. A bunch of years ago I had an idea for a computer server add-on. It was a better way of solving a problem that Dell/HP/IBM weren't addressing at the time. We designed and built these things and over a couple of years, sold about 3000 of them. We even got slashdotted. We applied for a patent because we were afraid we'd be scooped. It took 4 years before the patent was approved and granted. By that time, Dell/HP/IBM and some smaller players all made their own version of our product and we went out of business. Now our technology features prominently on their web pages. We sent a few "you're violating our patent. Lets discuss licensing." letters, and received "oh yeah? We see your patent and raise you 1000 lawyers" responses and now we haven't got two nickles to rub together.

    Now, with this new development, even if we did find a few nickles, since we're no longer an active business, we can't even go after these people because there's no rubber mallet to beat them with anymore ....

    So don't bother innovating folks. You'll just get eaten alive.

  5. Re:The WMDs of the tech world have been found by Jay+Random+the+Other · · Score: 3, Interesting

    'Of course I've got lawyers. They are like nuclear weapons: I've got em 'cause everyone else has. But as soon as you use them they **** everything up.'

    -- Danny DeVito in Other People's Money

  6. Creative == SCO, hope they get crushed. by guidryp · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is the same Creative that used patent extortion against ID software. These guys are one step removed from SCO. I launched my personal boycott of creative products that day.
    http://3dgpu.com/archives/2004/07/28/john-carmack- on-creative-patentn/

    Anyone using dubious patents to extort as a buisness model deserves to get crushed. I wish ID had played hardball against these slimeballs.

  7. oh my lord... by revlayle · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I like creative's players....

    ....*BUT* after working in their north american web development/eCommerce team for almost 2 years, I can tell you this: management is a mess, pay is bad, and they will try anything to sway competitors and market share.

    ever since sound cards have become commodity, Creative has slipped in revenues (for the most part). their products are decent enough (IMO) and affordable, but I think their whole legal and marketing team needs to be axed.

    the counter suit from apple? i am certainly NO apple fanboy, but if you play with fire (creative), expect to get burned.