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Google to Distribute Online Video Ads

sufijazz writes to mention an AP story about Google's plan to start distributing online video ads. From the article: "The video expansion, announced late Monday, will affect thousands of Web sites that rely on Google to post ads related to the surrounding material on a page. For instance, a news story about housing might prompt Google to display an ad for real estate agents. Google isn't allowing the video ads to appear on its own Web site -- a heavily trafficked destination that produced 58 percent of its $2.25 billion in revenue during the first three months of this year."

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  1. Adblocker by samsonov · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Another good reason to get an ad blocker. Course you have to actually play the ad:

    The appeal of Google's video ads might be dampened by controls that will prevent the messages from automatically streaming across a Web page. Google instead will display graphics promoting video ads that won't be played unless a viewer clicks on a play button.
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  2. On every site that uses AdSense? by Centurix · · Score: 4, Funny

    Nearly every site will blast annoying sounds out the instant I visit the page? We'll have to surf porn with the sound turned down?

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  3. Whew, good thing I RTFA by Red+Flayer · · Score: 5, Informative

    FTA: "The appeal of Google's video ads might be dampened by controls that will prevent the messages from automatically streaming across a Web page. Google instead will display graphics promoting video ads that won't be played unless a viewer clicks on a play button."

    The appeal to me is precisely that I don't have to watch the ads if I don't want to. Thank goodness.

    Of course, advertisers are probably less enthused -- but I'm sure major brands understand that potential customers do get pissed off by intrusive advertising.

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    1. Re:Whew, good thing I RTFA by myspys · · Score: 2, Funny

      but I'm sure major brands understand that potential customers do get pissed off by intrusive advertising.

      what dream-world do you live in? got room for one more?

    2. Re:Whew, good thing I RTFA by Andrewkov · · Score: 3, Funny
      I recall a couple years ago when it was impossible to visit a commercial website without having a video ad superimposed over the web page (closeable or not). I don't notice it as much anymore

      You didn't happen to switch to Firefox with adblock around that time, did you? ;)

    3. Re:Whew, good thing I RTFA by dyslexicbunny · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I don't click on Flash ads either but, more often than not, Firefox's NukeAnythingEnhanced is unable to get rid of them. Sure, I could get Flashblock as well but I've had some problems with Flashblock in the past.

      My major concern is being able to remove them as well with NAE regardless of if the icon is tasteful or not. So long as I can do that, I doubt I'll be as bothered with them as I am about video that automatically plays (pointing at you, ESPN.com).

  4. Re:Again?? by Whiney+Mac+Fanboy · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Dial-up users will be delighted!

    I don't think they'll mind to much - from tfa:
    Google instead will display graphics promoting video ads that won't be played unless a viewer clicks on a play button.
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  5. Eolas patent by scsa · · Score: 3, Funny

    If the Eolas patent "Click To Activate" crap ever makes it to Firefox, I'll have to click on the ad to have it rammed down my throat? Sure, of course I will. If I didn't, it'd be like stealing the Internet.

  6. Truly unfortunate by emorphien · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Not only is this a waste of bandwidth, but Google became so popular because of their clear, textual interface. And that included their ads which were usually easily visible and not obnoxious to look at. I will actually click on relevant text links, but I don't click on banner ads or video ads, ever.

    Hopefully this won't turn out as bad as it sounds.

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    1. Re:Truly unfortunate by analysethis · · Score: 2, Informative

      FTFH: "Google isn't allowing the video ads to appear on its own Web site "

    2. Re:Truly unfortunate by forand · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Perhaps you didn't RTFA but as another reader pointed out: the advertisements will not stream unless the user click on it. So they will not be wasteing bandwidth nor will they be putting annoying video everywhere. If the user wants to click on an ad for something then they get a "better" experience. Seems like the same old Google to me: give the people only what they want. So you and I won't see the ads and someone who might actually buy what is being advertised will.

  7. Any option for adsense users? by E+IS+mC(Square) · · Score: 4, Interesting

    >> The appeal of Google's video ads might be dampened by controls that will prevent the messages from automatically streaming across a Web page. Google instead will display graphics promoting video ads that won't be played unless a viewer clicks on a play button.

    Its close, but still - what if I dont want any video ad appearing on my website through adsense? Do people have choice of "only text"/"text and video"/"video only"?

    1. Re:Any option for adsense users? by Proteus · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Do people have choice of "only text"/"text and video"/"video only"?

      Considering that Google already serves image ads through AdSense, and that AdSense subscribers can choose not to have image ads on their site, it's a good bet that sites will be able to opt-out of displaying video ads as well.

      It's a shame I can't set a cookie in my browser (or something) that tells Google I have no interest in video ads. The advertisers would like it because they wouldn't waste an impression on an annoyed viewer, and the users would like it because they can choose what kinds of ads to view.

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  8. Re:Again?? by OctoberSky · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There is really not much to bitch about here. It is a still ad with the ability to become a video ad.

    Slashdot already has those fancy Microsoft video ads, and thiers are set to autoplay! Although, thank FSM, they are muted from the start and the user gets to activate the sound.

  9. Re:Again?? by Whiney+Mac+Fanboy · · Score: 4, Funny

    Slashdot has ads?

    *fires up IE*

    Damnit you're right! ;-)

    and yes, your point was completely valid, if the /. crowd can accept video ads (from MS no less), then the rest of the internet will lap up video ads that aren't forced on you.

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  10. Why not any Flash content? by suv4x4 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm puzzled, there has been some speculation of Google working on Flash ads support, but I didn't expect videos to make it before Flash.

    Of course, the video player of Google (the online one) is working inside Flash, and uses Flash video, but why not allow *any* Flash content as an ad?

    For once, what would be a 1MB video could easily fit into less than 100k vector and procedural (scripting enhanced) animation using the full toolset of Flash.

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    Of course, last but not least, I wonder where is the promise of Google to always deliver light non-intrusive ads. Text-only ads were so great, but soon polluted by big image banner ads (not on the Google's site yet, but on google ad enhanced sites), and now... videos.

    Google is walking on a thin line right now.

    1. Re:Why not any Flash content? by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 2, Informative
      For once, what would be a 1MB video could easily fit into less than 100k vector and procedural (scripting enhanced) animation using the full toolset of Flash.

      Because then the advertiser has to pay some Flash artist for who knows how long to magic them up a snazzy SWF file with who knows how many individually designed and programmed elements, instead of what is probably some idiot-proof tool to simply drag-and-drop an MPEG of their existing TV ads into.

    2. Re:Why not any Flash content? by _Sprocket_ · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I'm puzzled, there has been some speculation of Google working on Flash ads support, but I didn't expect videos to make it before Flash.


      It's not speculation - it's a reality. Google has already began serving Flash animated ads. I don't know if they still do or not - I began to block them as soon as the first one showed up.

      Side note - that ad was for Burger King. The fact that I remember this might be proof that the ad worked. However, the fact that I now immediately associate "Burger King" with "crappy advertising" rather than food might also be telling (I also noted they're jumping on the MySpace / FOX TV show download marketing scheme - and you thought McDonald's was desperate).
  11. Re:Again?? by OctoberSky · · Score: 3, Interesting
    "Slashdot has ads? *fires up IE*"

    Sorry, I completely forget about Ad-Block and similar features within user setups that are available. I am at work, I have to get the slow served, full featured internet. God forbid I try and save my office some bandwidth by editing my System32 "hosts" file.

  12. not so bad by swanriversean · · Score: 4, Informative


    The appeal of Google's video ads might be dampened by controls that will prevent the messages from automatically streaming across a Web page. Google instead will display graphics promoting video ads that won't be played unless a viewer clicks on a play button.

    The activation feature could discourage many advertisers from signing up for the new video service, said Jupiter Research analyst David Card. "This isn't going to be a game changer for Google, but it gives them a much richer palette."
    </FTA>

    It really isn't that bad, although I don't know how many people are going to click the ads. I'm sure some will to start, just for the novalty, but over time, I doubt this will be a big revenue generator for Google (wasn't that an original opinion considering the quote from Mr. Card!).

    I wonder if the video will work on *nix anyway, and if it doesn't, whose going to bother installing the codec and plugin to make it work?

    Google could get themselves into trouble though, if they let those pictures be animated, but I'm sure they know not to do that, otherwise they would just have the video start automatically.

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  13. Re:Again?? by NickFitz · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Amazing... as I write there are 17 top-level posts of which 11 are saying something to the effect that "OMFG!!! Waste of bandwidth! All these sites are gonna be really slow!!! I'm editing my hosts file..." etc.

    This means that fully 64.7% of Slashdot readers are so eager to rant on (not having read TFA) that they don't even mind making themselves look like utter fools, proudly displaying their complete ignorance of the matter under discussion, their inability to understand the facts before formulating an opinion, and their general desperate need for upwards moderation, which is the only kind of "social" approbation they can ever hope for.

    As many have pointed out, including in this thread: you have to choose to see the video. Now can you all calm down and learn to think? There's an interesting discussion to be had about this, and the morons' chorus is drowning it out.

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  14. Re:Again?? by tomhudson · · Score: 2, Insightful

    While your point is valid, I would add one caveat - that the bit about having to click on the ad to see the video is the way it will work right now. As the article notes, advertisers aren't too happy about that. This could just be the camel's nose in the tent ...

  15. I for one welcome our... err video ads to the web by Garak · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Video based ads really get your attention, they are usually more entertaining that just a flashy logo and the companys latest deal that we see in flash ads.

    Why is this a good thing? Everyone who visits a site will actually see the ad rather than ignore it, so webmasters can demand more money and stop producing websites that try and trick you into clicking an ads and stuff.

    Video is a proven model or advertizing, ask someone what was the last web ad they seen? now ask someone what was the last tv commerical?

    Maybe advertizers will start demanding better content?

    Maybe we will see a whole new industry built on creating video ads for the web?

    Video ads usually get your attention with something entertaining... Some nice eye candy...

    This will really put a push on building better networks and pushing broadband, maybe advertizers will start putting pressure on broadband providers... Demand for bandwidth with money behind it, unlike bittorrent which is a demand for bandwidth without any money behind it.

    Ofcourse there is the bad side, it dose suck if your on dialup or slow broadband, or have a slower computer, but all you have to do is uninstall flash or not install it in the first place, hell this might be the push we need to have average joe buy a new computer and broadband...

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  16. Ads aren't always evil. by AJanuary · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I often "Shoot the duck" or "Stomp on the spider" or "Kill the ninja" or whatever while I'm waiting for a page to load (as pages that tend to have these adds tend to load slow). I use Firefox so when I "win" the popup doesn't appear. I just get to have a little bit of guilty pleasure. This is an interesting more. It seems to be on the face or it a poor one from what I can see, similar to what people have already states, advertisers aren't going to be happy. Then again, Google ads are very popular because they are non-intrusive. If you have non-intrusive video adds you will still be reaching the large audience Google Ads already reaches. And don't forget, if they don't click on it, its still a picture add (presumably). I guess Google are banking on advertisers realising this. See annoying add. Block it/Ignore it. See picture of something interesting. Click to play, go to website. Which would get more? Time will tell I guess.

  17. Re:Again?? by the_mind_ · · Score: 2, Interesting

    i use Firefox+adblock.

    But i do not block the text only adSens.
    Sometimes the have relevant info and i use them.

    I DO however block all flash/image ads.
    And the second google adds images or video i add them to my blocklist.

    And i don't think im alone.

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  18. Re:I for one welcome our... err video ads to the w by edgr · · Score: 2, Insightful
    hell this might be the push we need to have average joe buy a new computer and broadband...
    Yes, because I can see this being a real selling point.
    Potential broadband customer: "Why should I get broadband?"
    Salesman: "Then you can watch video ads!"
    PBC: "..."
  19. Nukes. . . by Fantastic+Lad · · Score: 2, Informative
    I spent a long time hoping for a fully functioning "NukeAnything". I even emailed the creator of the extension with my requests and mailed him a set of my favorite books by way of thanks (for making such a cool extension). Anyway, when I last upgraded, everything seemed to smooth out nicely.

    I'm currently using. . .

    NukeAnything Enhanced .53
    Flashblock 1.5
    on top of Firefox/1.5.0.1

    I have no trouble Nuking flash banners. Maybe you can get some use out of that. . .

    Cheers!


    -FL

  20. A reminder by bruns · · Score: 3, Informative

    A reminder to people who use the AdSense service (and not those of you who like to spout without knowing what you are talking about) - you can set your prefs so that only text ads will be displayed.

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  21. Re:Appeal Dampened By Who? by rainman_bc · · Score: 2, Insightful

    There is a happy medium and Google has found it.

    Naw... I'll argue you'll find most people not playing the ads, and Google will have to adjust their strategy accordingly.

    IMO, it's not a good move at all, advertisers won't go for it...

    If you were watching a TV show, and it said "turn to channel 35 for great info on adult diapers", would you be as inclined to turn to channel 35? Perhaps if you were truly interested, but advertising isn't about that.

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  22. Re:Again?? by bhtooefr · · Score: 2, Informative

    I suspect that it works much like the Google Video previews.

    Go to Google Video, and search for something. Note the play buttons to see a short preview of the clip.

    Click the button. It uses JavaScript to load the preview in Flash. ;)

  23. Re:more fscking with the web by Eideewt · · Score: 2, Informative

    I don't know if you've tried the Filterset.g updater extension, but I've found it to be a real time saver. It updates Adblock with a list of ad servers so you don't have to. The only ads I've seen since installing it have been quirky ones that are actually served by the domain I'm visiting.

  24. Flash video is downloaded only upon request by hackrobat · · Score: 2, Informative

    Having worked on the video playback component in Flash and Flex (I'm an engineer at Adobe), I feel obligated to enlighten you on the bandwidth implications for users visiting web sites containing Flash-based video ads.

    There are three ways to play video in Flash:

    1. Embedding the video directly into the SWF file
    2. Downloading the FLV file over HTTP
    3. Streaming the video over RTMP (FMS or FVSS)

    Of these, the first one is recommended only for extremely small video clips (5 seconds or less), because embedding the video into the SWF, aside from providing poor quality playback, also bloats the size of the SWF file.

    The other two have their pros and cons each, but they have one thing in common: video is downloaded only when requested. Streaming (option 3) has the additional advantage of requesting video frame-by-frame, whereas in the case of HTTP download, the entire file is requested at once (though the download can be aborted at any point during playback).

    So, take a chill pill. The world is not coming to an end. If you don't want to see the ads, don't click on the play button.