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An anonymous reader writes "KernelTrap is running a two part who's who at the 2006 OpenBSD Hackathon. Starting on the 27th and running for a full week, developers get together and concentrate on communication rather than just development. Project leader Theo de Raadt was quoted as saying 'I don't think anybody else does this, developers suspend their lives for a week to focus entirely on just development.'"
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> I don't think anybody else does this, developers suspend their lives for a week to focus entirely on just development.
Yes, that would be called doing your job.
For just one project that does this often, see http://plone.org/events/sprints
So no one else suspends work to do something else intensely for a short time as a competition/etc. Let's make a short list: semi-pro (or even pro in some sports) athletes. touring artisans. olympians. the peace corps. So yes, lots of other people do something like a "hack"athon, for their chosen area of interest.
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Is this where the techie fight clubs use axes for a day?
I have nothing to say.
quote: ".. developers suspend their lives .."
We all know that *BSD has been suspended for quite a while, they call it death.
... it's not like no one else has gatherings where people go someplace and work on a focused set of goals for a week or so; it's called a "sprint".
How can you quote one sentence and incorrectly interpret it at the same time?
KernelTrap is running a two part who's who at the 2006 OpenBSD Hackathon. Starting on the 27th and running for a full week, developers get together and concentrate on communication rather than just development. Project leader Theo de Raadt was quoted as saying 'I don't think anybody else does this, developers suspend their lives for a week to focus entirely on just development.'"
Lawrence Lessig is my personal hero.
I've never been to an OpenBSD Hackathon, but I really don't understand how this is the best way to use their time together. Surely the advantage of getting everybody into a room together is to allow them to talk to each other more easily, not to allow them to all stare at their terminals and ignore each other.
When FreeBSD developer summits occur (e.g., at the recent BSDCan), there is always some important hacking done, but the most useful result of the devsummit is that people can talk to each other and make decisions about where the project should going next (e.g., dropping support for Alpha, working more on embedded/arm support, et cetera). Clearly we're missing something important -- can someone more familiar with OpenBSD tell me what the ingredient is in Theo's Magic Kool-Aid which makes developers better at hacking code when they all get together in a single room?
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It seems to me that two weeks ago I was in Mexico at DebConf, which if you look at the official page, was preceded by a weeklong "DebCamp" that could just as easily been called a "hackathon," not to mention that probably 60% or more of the average attendee's time during the "main" DebConf week was spent in collaborative hacking. And DebConf had around 250 people there...
I'm not knocking OpenBSD's hackathon, just pointing out that it's hardly unique. Many other FOSS projects have similar gatherings.
I'm sure he have got the question "Any relationship?" more than once...
And to the besserwissers out there... yes, I know Steve spells it will to l's.
Very few people get paid to work on OpenBSD, most of them have jobs as well.
For the second time (and we're hoping for an annual tradition) the Hackathon has agreed to come up for air long enough to give a talk to the Calgary Unix Users Group.
This year, Bob Beck and Reyk Floeter will give a talk to the group and many Hackathon participants on their directions in wireless chipset support, advanced feature support, and security support.
At SAIT, June 1, 6PM - all details at
http://www.cuug.ab.ca/
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What lives?
..besides I dont think moving out of mums basement for a week is that big a sacrifice.
I love humanity, it is people I hate
'I don't think anybody else does this, developers suspend their lives for a week to focus entirely on just development.'
Tell that to the folks at EA. Or to any other member of a startup for that matter who suspend their lives for at least a couple years.
Project leader Theo de Raadt was quoted as saying 'I don't think anybody else does this, developers suspend their lives for a week to focus entirely on just development.'
...continued to hang out with OpenBSD people on the mailing lists and IRC.
Can Acar
Can lives in Ankara, Turkey. He began using OpenBSD in 1998
Thordur Bjornson
Thordur lives in Hafnarfjordur, Iceland.
Henning Brauer
He noted that he did most of the work blindly on the airplane, and still could use hardware for testing.
Michael Coulter
Michael lives in North Vancouver, Canada.
Gordon Klok
Gordon lives in Windsor, Ontario in Canada.
Marc La France
Marc is from Edmonton, Canada. He's from the XFree86 group
Ryan McBride
Ryan was living in Vancouver, Canada
Peter Valchev
Peter lives in Calgary, Canada.
Tobias Weingartner
Tobias lives in Edmonton, Canada.
Ken Westerback
Ken lives in Toronto, Canada.
Kjell Wooding
Kjell lives in Calgary, Canada.
Theo de Raadt
Theo lives in Calgary, Canada. He started the OpenBSD repository on October 18'th, 1995.
Suspending lives? More like OpenBSD zealot's Spring break... without the girls and tanned skins.
"Don't let fools fool you. They are the clever ones."
One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered *BSD community when IDC confirmed that *BSD market share has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.
You don't need to be the Amazing Kreskin to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood.
FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time FreeBSD developers Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD is dying.
Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.
Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.
All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS dilettante dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.
Fact: *BSD is dying
Let's take a closer look...
First, we have the story submitter saying this: "developers get together and concentrate on communication rather than just development."
And then we have Theo saying this: "developers suspend their lives for a week to focus entirely on just development."
Hmm...
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Ike always looked like he was three days from a shave and his whiskers were dirty white, shaded by the brim of his battered felt fedora.
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"People do that?"
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"I never . . ."
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"Why would I do that?"
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"I'm no queer."
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Ike winked. "Care to be asshole buddies?"
***
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Sounds like Theo doesn't know about the Plone community, which just wrapped up their week-long "Archipelago Sprint" on a Norwegian island to drive forward development of the next major release of the most kick-ass open-source CMS on the planet.
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Nice work trimming out the ones from other countries.
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Actually, Debian developers do more. (approx) 250 Debian Developers have recently (two weeks ago) attended this year's Debian Conference in Mexico. Not everybody hacked all the time (as the pictures proved) but there was quite a bit of it.
Also, even if the main conference is held yearly, there are mini conferences held with fewer people (30-100) in, at least, Australia, Japan and Spain.
Yeah, he left just a few people off of the list:
Alexandre Anriot is from Marseille, France.
Marc Balmer lives in Basel, Switzerland.
Todd Fries is from Oklahoma City, Oklahoma in the US.
David Gwynne lives in Brisbane, Australia...
Matthieu Herrb lives in Toulouse, France...
Hans Hoexer lives near Nuremberg in Germany.
Mark Kettenis lives in Assen in the Netherlands.
Ray Lai lives in New York City in the US.
Chad Loder lives in California in the US.
Jolan Luff lives in Chicago, Illinois in the US.
Anil Madhavapeddy lives in Cambridge, UK...
Pedro Martelletto lives in Rio, Brazil.
Uwe Stuehler is from Berlin in Germany.
Joris Vink lives in Dominica, a tropical island in the Caribbean.
Jason Wright lives in Chantilly, Virginia in the US.
Can Acar lives in Ankara, Turkey.
Thordur Bjornson lives in Hafnarfjordur, Iceland.
Henning Brauer lives in Hamburg, Germany.
Reyk Floeter is from Hannover, Germany.
Mats Jansson lives in Stockholm, Sweden.
Claudio Jeker lives in Zurich, Switzerland.
Moritz Jodeit lives in Hamburg, Germany.
Michael Knudsen lives in Aalborg, Denmark.
Felix Kronlage is from Oldenburg, Germany.
Robert Nagy is from Debrecen, Hungary.
Esben Norby lives in Ringkobing, Denmark.
Niall O'Higgins is from Dublin, Ireland.
Chris Pascoe lives in Brisbane, Australia.
Dale Rahn is living in St. Joseph, Illinois, in the US.
Martin Reindl lives in Vienna, Austria.
Nikolay Sturm is from Munich, Germany.
Christian "Naddy" Weisgerber lives in Ludwigshafen, Germany.
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I know this is somewhat offtopic, but...
/guarantee/ that your code will be safe. Then OpenBSD developers can spend their time optimizing their code for efficiency, with the knowledge that it's perfectly secure... which is much better than having to optimize for both efficiency and security at the same time, no?
Much of the purpose of OpenBSD's code auditing is getting rid of buffer overflows. But buffer overflows are basically a byproduct of C arrays. Considering that computers these days are significantly faster than they were when the C language was originally written, wouldn't OpenBSD be well-served by porting itself to something like Cyclone?
Cyclone programs do have bounds-checking, and so they'll be a bit slower than C programs, but that seems like a small price to pay for a